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Setting-up an LLC (sole-proprietorship)

I am looking to set-up an LLC that will provide advisory services to companies. I wanted your help with the following:

- What is the cost of setting-up the company?
- What is the annual cost of keeping the company?
- What other costs should I estimate such as social security?
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Old 11.02.2014, 22:57
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Re: Setting-up an LLC (sole-proprietorship)

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I am looking to set-up an LLC that will provide advisory services to companies. I wanted your help with the following:

- What is the cost of setting-up the company?
- What is the annual cost of keeping the company?
- What other costs should I estimate such as social security?
An LLC does not exist in CH

You can be self employed with unlimited liability
A company with a min 20k capital.

Social security costs are based on earnings
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Old 11.02.2014, 23:10
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An LLC does not exist in CH

You can be self employed with unlimited liability
A company with a min 20k capital.

Social security costs are based on earnings
LLC (company with limited liability) is equivalent to German GmbH (Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung)

Source: http://www.startups.ch/en/preparatio...-rechtsformen/

More info on capital requirements and other aspects of operation can be found under:
http://www.batardpartners.com/doc/Sw...on_Process.pdf
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Re: Starting a business in Switzerland.

sorry for the confusion. I meant sole proprietorship not LLC. same questions.
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Old 11.02.2014, 23:24
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sorry for the confusion. I meant sole proprietorship not LLC. same questions.
This might give you basic info:
http://switzerland-company.ch/sole-proprietorship.htm
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Old 11.02.2014, 23:27
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Re: Starting a business in Switzerland.

Take a look at the following websites for help and information: -

http://startups.ch/en/

https://www.ch.ch/en/becoming-self-employed/

http://www.gruenden.ch/en/

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sorry for the confusion. I meant sole proprietorship not LLC. same questions.
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Re: Starting a business in Switzerland.

Thank you for the links. I found answers to all my questions except the last one. How much should I estimate to pay for social contributions? Are these paid through the personal income tax or should they be paid by the business entity?

Also, does a proprietorship require business insurance?
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Old 12.02.2014, 10:02
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Re: Starting a business in Switzerland.

Quote from the www.ch.ch link:
"If you are self-employed you must take out your own insurance. The two main types of insurance are social insurance for yourself and any employees and business insurance. For more detailed information, see SECO’s SME portal."

As you don't say whether you're an EU or non-EU national can't really help on the tax side. But this link may help:

http://www.kmu.admin.ch/kmu-gruenden...x.html?lang=en
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Old 12.02.2014, 10:16
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Re: Starting a business in Switzerland.

How much you pay for your social contributions will be determined by how much you earn. This question has already been answered in post #93 above...

As a business, some form of public liability insurance coverage is always good...

Suggest you get in touch with one or more of the entities in the 3 links from my above post for an initial consultation. They have all the in-depth and latest knowledge on these issues and more.

Good luck!

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Thank you for the links. I found answers to all my questions except the last one. How much should I estimate to pay for social contributions? Are these paid through the personal income tax or should they be paid by the business entity?

Also, does a proprietorship require business insurance?
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Re: Starting a business in Switzerland.

I am a Swiss resident with B permit, living in Geneva. My income would be around 90k CHF.
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Re: Starting a business in Switzerland.

Good day Dear All,

I will just have short questions regarding opening your office/company in Geneva Canton. Maybe some of you, will give some ideas regarding procedure or legal/bureocratic steps..

First of all, where will be the starting point to have legal allowance, i need to find a lawyer about whole actions and registirations etc.

Your kind directions and idear will be much appreciated. Many thanks to all in advance.

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Old 24.02.2014, 14:50
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Good day Dear All,

I will just have short questions regarding opening your office/company in Geneva Canton. Maybe some of you, will give some ideas regarding procedure or legal/bureocratic steps..

First of all, where will be the starting point to have legal allowance, i need to find a lawyer about whole actions and registirations etc.

Your kind directions and idear will be much appreciated. Many thanks to all in advance.

Regards
Tuna
Well, this thread should give you a good idea if you read through it as will this one:

http://www.englishforum.ch/business-...ompany-ch.html

www.ch.ch is another site to get you started. Simply type in self employment in the search section and take it from there.

It really depends on what type of permit you have. Only people with C or B permits can start a business here.
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Re: Starting a business in Switzerland.

Thank you very much for the information provided. I have the B permit right now, but i dont have the information having that type of permit would be enough to register a company in Switzerland. Will immediately start searching as you said, also i heard there is an agency startups.ch who are handling these kind of procedure on behalf of you.
Once i found the starting point and learn the correct procedure, will commence for the necessary process but to be honest i dont think its gonna be easy.
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Old 24.02.2014, 16:23
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Well, this thread should give you a good idea if you read through it as will this one:

http://www.englishforum.ch/business-...ompany-ch.html

www.ch.ch is another site to get you started. Simply type in self employment in the search section and take it from there.

It really depends on what type of permit you have. Only people with C or B permits can start a business here.
This is not actually true. Cross border permits are available. And more exceptions as well.
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This is not actually true. Cross border permits are available. And more exceptions as well.
Yes, quite true Confloozed, cross borderers can as well. I was thinking he might have an L permit though and I don't think you can start a business here with that type of permit.
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Yes, quite true Confloozed, cross borderers can as well. I was thinking he might have an L permit though and I don't think you can start a business here with that type of permit.
Normally the B and C thing is true for people that want to be full time here. But the cross border people can actually buy real estate here as 2nd residences and reside as well. Only catch is that a non EU/Third Country, person has to first reside in on the bordering countries with Switzerland for atleast 6 months, and return once a week to their address as well. A bit tricky, but thousands of frontaliers do it daily.
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starting up a business

i have moving over in the next month i have a job in
as a carpenter for a large company .but have also been offered a renovation off a apartment for the month off September do i have to change tp self employed .

also after Christmas i will be looking to set up a small construction and home improvement company mainly importing the products .
opening a office and employing one office staff and other trade as sub contractors .
does the 20 000 have to say in the company or can i use it on set up and running cost
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i have moving over in the next month i have a job in
as a carpenter for a large company .but have also been offered a renovation off a apartment for the month off September do i have to change tp self employed .

also after Christmas i will be looking to set up a small construction and home improvement company mainly importing the products .
opening a office and employing one office staff and other trade as sub contractors .
does the 20 000 have to say in the company or can i use it on set up and running cost
Without knowing your nationality it's difficult to say, but frankly whatever it is I wouldn't do work in September before you've started your proper job. That's what your permit's been granted for and if you-re a non-EU citizen you can't jump straight into self-employed anyway. You'd be working illegally.
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Re: Starting a business in Switzerland.

I also want to start a home base travel agent, do i have to register the business and pay tax? Anyone have idea about the process to register and which document will be required? I am base in Ticino.

Many thanks.
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Re: Starting a business in Switzerland.

As a tax consultant, I generally suggest to people with low fixed costs (ex. some consultants, travel and insurance agents etc.) to start with a freelance company ("indépendant") and then if things go well - you can always change your status to a Sarl/Gmbh. The freelance status is very flexible here in Switzerland - you are only obliged to affiliate to the social security (AVS/AHV). You have to send proofs for your activity (invoices and contracts) to the AVS/AHV company you choose to take and that's all. Of course, you also need a residency permit that is recognised for a freelance activity. Saying all this doesn't mean that the freelance is a better option than the Sarl/Gmbh.

It's a personal choice of the manager, knowing that the freelance is personally responsible for the debts of its company (i.e. with his own assets) compared to the Sarl/Gmbh where there is a limited responsibility (i.e. in the limits of the capital - for ex. the min capital for a Sarl/GMBH is 20.000 CHF)
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