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Old 25.07.2014, 16:04
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That comes under ANOBAG not good news, an employee who pays all the social costs. Being a contractor is in no way self employed in CH, you need to take risk & be in business, which potentially means 0 clients.

http://www.svazurich.ch/anobag
Have you got a rough translation/synopsis of what that site says FMF? Would help me understand and probably Jean_pierre too.
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Old 25.07.2014, 16:11
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Have you got a rough translation/synopsis of what that site says FMF? Would help me understand and probably Jean_pierre too.
You guys could do a little work as well you know...


https://translate.google.com/#de/en/
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Old 25.07.2014, 16:42
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You guys could do a little work as well you know...


https://translate.google.com/#de/en/
Thanks for the link. I don't use Google translate myself so now I know how to do it.
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Old 23.09.2014, 11:10
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Rules for Starting Business

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What are the rules for started a small scale business in Switzerland for B Permit holders?
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Old 23.09.2014, 11:43
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Re: Rules for Starting Business

Yes.
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Re: Rules for Starting Business

Following....
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Old 23.09.2014, 13:14
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Re: Rules for Starting Business

All the info can be found in this forum.... many times over.
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Old 23.09.2014, 15:22
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Re: Rules for Starting Business

Here are a few threads to get you started. Many more in the Forum linked by grumpygrapefruit.

Starting a business in Switzerland.

Einzelfirma & Gmbh details in Zurich? [starting a business]

http://www.englishforum.ch/business-...ompany-ch.html

Starting a business with Permit B

By the way, the search box is in the upper right corner of your screen, and the easiest way to get results is to enter a few words instead of a whole phrase. For example, "starting a business" yields far more results than "opening a cake shop." Good luck!
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Re: Starting a business in Switzerland.

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thanks nina.... thats super information!!!!

anyone else who is an actual expat entrephreneur want to chime in with their experiences?

i think this has turned into a good thread... keep it up!!
I couldn't agree more. What an amazing threat. I guess I came to right place to check and have to read a lot before even thinking about venturing with some of my business ideas.
Thank you!
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Re: Starting a business in Switzerland.

I went through this very interesting topic (a big thank you to all contributors - many information is still valid & useful) and actually, I miss one point that was already asked but not answered.

Currently I have an employment contract (100%, B permit, EU citizenship) and I would like to start working on a parallel business on my own. If we disregard all specifics from my employment contract / internal policies - is it somehow regulated?
Additionally, I am interested if limits defined in law (max income allowed without registering to Commercial Registry; max turnover without having full accounting) should be only the income from individual business(es - I know it adds up if multiple) OR this should be counted together with my salary?

I hope I was clear...
Thank you in advance for your comments!
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Re: Starting a business in Switzerland.

It seems I can't edit my posts so, I am posting another one - I am a bit ashamed , it was sufficient to check several topics below and I found a topic answering my questions - for those intersted it is here: Starting business while being employed
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Old 28.10.2014, 20:06
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Re: Requirements in starting a business

Look under the Business and Entrepreneur section of the forum, there's plenty there on starting a business. And as far as I know there's no difference. You still need to prove to the Swiss authorities that your idea is viable and you have sufficient funding to keep you going until you start to earn money.
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Been there, done it, got the t-shirt

Started my own business using the Beobachter book to help me out in making some major decisions from the start.

I have the C-Permit and have not run into any major problems, yet.

One headache has been the VAT/MWST. Getting to know everything dealing with import and export was a real challenge, and still is!

If you have any specific questions, ask. General questions leave too much open to answer properly.

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Hi Scott,

I know your post was from a while ago, but I'm interested in what type of products you were importing and from where? Also, do you have any experience with the FTA between China-Switzerland?
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Re: Starting a business in Switzerland.

Many thanks for the useful information,

May I ask you if it is possible having a work not as self - employment and working in paralel as a freelance?

Many thanks
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Re: Starting a business in Switzerland.

Hello all of you friends,

I,m new there and already found very good useful information. I would like to thank,s especially for Nina for a such a good webb sites links.
I,m working as a selfemploy since June 2014 but my company still can not have a bank account besause I,m still waiting changinge of residence L to B !!!? So company can.t working fullest 100%!!! I,m residence of EU .
From 1 september I change Canton Bern to Solothurn for family reasons. I payed already in two cantons AHV.
Anyone there can gave me advice what I must to do !!!
For my company the time is GOULD.

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Hello all of you friends,

I,m new there and already found very good useful information. I would like to thank,s especially for Nina for a such a good webb sites links.
I,m working as a selfemploy since June 2014 but my company still can not have a bank account besause I,m still waiting changinge of residence L to B !!!? So company can.t working fullest 100%!!! I,m residence of EU .
From 1 september I change Canton Bern to Solothurn for family reasons. I payed already in two cantons AHV.
Anyone there can gave me advice what I must to do !!!
For my company the time is GOULD.

Thank you
Yes, get permission from the Swiss authorities to set up as self-employed. You need to present them with things like a business plan, financial funding, etc, so they can see it's a viable proposition that will earn you a B permit. You're not allowed to run a business here with just an L permit.

"According to the Agreement on the Free Movement of Persons, self-employed entrepreneurs can set up their business without a permanent residence permission (C permit). It is sufficient to have a B permit, which is valid for five years. At registration in Switzerland though, the planned self-employed activity needs to be proven. Proof can be provided for example with a valid VAT number, an entry into the professional register, the registration at the social insurance as self-employed entrepreneur, a business plan, accounting figures or the entry in the Commercial Register. For more information, contact the cantonal migration offices."

http://www.kmu.admin.ch/kmu-gruenden...x.html?lang=en
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Then a GmbH will probably be the cheapest option - however in order to remain anonymous the owner will have to have someone represent him. With an AG this is not necessary, but an AG is pricier.


Thanks Is AG pricier to set up or is it more expensive to maintain on annual basis?


Also if in the first two years of company's life capital is used to pay employee salary as there is no revenue yet, the company has a loss. Can this loss be carried over for future tax years and can it be deducted from the future income? How many years can losses be carried forward to offset from income tax? Does this differ from Canton to Canton depending on the domicile of company? Which Cantons offer the best tax deals for this? thanks
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Re: How to set up your own company in CH

Here are a few more threads that might have some helpful information:

Starting a business in Switzerland.

Einzelfirma & Gmbh details in Zurich? [starting a business]

Starting a business with Permit B
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Thanks Is AG pricier to set up or is it more expensive to maintain on annual basis?


Also if in the first two years of company's life capital is used to pay employee salary as there is no revenue yet, the company has a loss. Can this loss be carried over for future tax years and can it be deducted from the future income? How many years can losses be carried forward to offset from income tax? Does this differ from Canton to Canton depending on the domicile of company? Which Cantons offer the best tax deals for this? thanks
AG is pricier from what I've been told and accounting will eventually cost more too. Plus you may need to save some ks for administration unless you can do that yourself.

From what I've seen you can deduct debts, though I don't know how much and I don't know how they apply differently to AG.

You probably already know this, but also every town has a different tax multiplier in percentage, so you want to choose wisely where to start a company and pay less taxes. You can also check out this link:
https://en.comparis.ch/steuern/steue...h/default.aspx
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AG is pricier from what I've been told and accounting will eventually cost more too. Plus you may need to save some ks for administration unless you can do that yourself.

From what I've seen you can deduct debts, though I don't know how much and I don't know how they apply differently to AG.

You probably already know this, but also every town has a different tax multiplier in percentage, so you want to choose wisely where to start a company and pay less taxes. You can also check out this link:
https://en.comparis.ch/steuern/steue...h/default.aspx
Far an SA(AG) you need to audit accounts, not so for a Srl (GmbH)

Setting up in a differnt canton and working in another opens up a whole new can of worms.

Unless you're making mega buicks makes vbery little difference and when you make mega bucks you move.
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