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Old 23.03.2010, 09:51
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Food Street Cart Vendor

I have wanted to try this, but really do not know where to start. I asked at my local Gemeindehaus, and was told to go to the one in Zurich, although, even with calling to another Gemeindehaus, and finding someone who spoke english, they had no idea to help me, even in their town.
So I put it to you, you fine english speaking folks, considering the fact I think a few of you already do this in one form or another.
I want to know what could possibly be involved, and who I could see about it, in operating a food stand off Zurichsee, by the river mouth, well that general area? I do not have all the equipment, basic stuff like gas grill/or embers, deep fryers, small fridge, etc, but can get the rest on a short notice. But like all things, I assume there must be alot of regulation cooking outdoors, as there is enough of it for in doors cooking as it is.
So, my questions are....
How do I get permission to have a space along the lake?
How do I get permission to cook and sell food in ZH canton in ZH?
What hygenic pre-cautions do I have to take, aside from the obvious ones already asserted in restaurants, more-so to the fact that I am outside?
Is there anywhere in that area where I could rent a small garage or space to store equipment for the night?
If I have some one help me, do I have to legally declare it (I assume the answer in yes)?
And finally do I need to incorporate myself as a business, or is there another route to pay taxes on this set-up?
Any help is appreciated. Thank you.
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Old 23.03.2010, 10:23
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Re: Food Street Cart Vendor

See I am sure there is a lot of paperwork involved but as far as regulations go...I bought a wurst on sunday at the marktplatz in Basel. They guy that was serving them kept moving them with his bare hands , well at least he was not handling the money
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Old 23.03.2010, 16:37
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Re: Food Street Cart Vendor

The difficulty is getting the pitch.

Once you have that then everything else is straightforward.

I was looking at Bern but they told me that they no longer want food vending from carts as it makes the cities look scruffy. Those that currently do it have continual rolling contracts and the city cannot terminate them until they violate the terms. Thus the only way to get the pitch is to buy one of the contracts from the current vendors.

I gather it is the same in Lucern and in Zurich, but would be interested to know if it is not the case.
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Old 23.03.2010, 18:26
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Re: Food Street Cart Vendor

I am hopeful the difference from canton to canton continues. A pitch wouldn't be so much a problem. But I was hoping for something nice and easy to pull off (). Well, if I don't hear anything from this board I will start making some calls in the next day or so. If I knew what I had to do, and wasn't abnormally expensive, then I would dive right in; right now.
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Old 23.03.2010, 23:50
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Re: Food Street Cart Vendor

The vending is looked after by the market police, so your starting point is to visit the Zurich police website and follow through to the markets section. If I recall this has all the information, including tips on required hygiene etc.
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Old 25.03.2010, 14:52
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Re: Food Street Cart Vendor

So here is what I found when I called the Polizei who handle vendors on the lake. So apparently it is possible. But, as the guy said, it's possible but impossible at the same time.
You need to apply for a permit to do this. Along Zurichsee, where I was inquiring about, there is something like a 2 to 4 year waiting list for those who want to do this. So, if you are planning in the country for a while...
Another possibility is to do this privately. That is, who ever has the permit already with the city, you can "sublease" off of them, or rent a space from some one who already owns land there. Now, how to track down those people...? But, on top of it, I was told this was very, very, very, very and so on expensive. Anyone want to buy a watch?
I was given other numbers, several. The outdoor market that is there every week, is not for prepared food. But if you did want to sell a legume or two, once again, impossible. I was told by the police that run that market that they are completely filled and not to ever expect an opening, as the vendors hold the space for life, and when papi or mammi passes on, they pass the vending spot on to their children or another "relative". I was recommended to try Geneva, I'll say that's the next practical solution.
Then I was told I have to call the SBB if I want to set up in the HB. They have a weekly market there on Wensdays March thru October, I will call today.
Other suggestions were the Haxen Festival and Street Parade, but, it's not really what I had in mind. I thought about doing this regularily, even once a week in the HB isn't that either, but it's more of a start. I am going to call about the fests though, as even though last year I went to the Street Parade(Techno Floats), and the weather was terrible, people were still cueing up en masse for the food stands. Might be interesting.
That's what I have so far.
Maybe Lachen, Rapperswil by the port, but, I think that during the week it can't be that interesting.
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Old 25.03.2010, 15:01
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Re: Food Street Cart Vendor

Well, maybe you'll have to track down the stands that already exist around the lake.. check one by one if they intend to sub-lease, sell or want to go for long holidays..

I'd welcome some more of those stands - most just have the standard icetea/beer/icecream "choice"...

Good luck...!

Alternatively, seeing as this is a very close "family" of vendors... make them an offer they can't refuse!
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Old 25.03.2010, 15:07
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Re: Food Street Cart Vendor

I might head over there today and see who's out there now. Get a feel for what they would take. I assume that they would not want any competition, but if there was some way to link what they were doing, with what I would do, and make them more, as well as padding the pockets, that may be the best route. I don't see myself grilling Kalbswurst, so that takes me out of direct line of fire of 50% of those guys atleast. Although grilling something else, yes.

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Re: Food Street Cart Vendor

You've done a good bit or research and ended up pretty much where I got too in Bern, except the catch all city for them was Biel. Obviously Swiss French get what the Swiss Germans throw out.

Good luck with the direct approach.

If you do want to do fests, I'm booked into a number already and it maybe possible to extend the stall size to add you in nextdoor.

Let me know if your interested.

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Re: Food Street Cart Vendor

Just to say good luck, admire your tenacity, and please update with news of progress!
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Just to say good luck, admire your tenacity, and please update with news of progress!
... and let us know what you will be selling!

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Old 26.03.2010, 02:21
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Re: Food Street Cart Vendor

Thanks for this post, I now understand why the provision of street food is so limited here. I guess variety isn't expected so much here except during festivals.

I really resent the attitude of the city "look cheap" brigade. If I can offer a service/product legally, and want to compete and win, let me at it. No wonder competition is so stifled here.
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Then I was told I have to call the SBB if I want to set up in the HB. They have a weekly market there on Wensdays March thru October, I will call today.
Talk to Mike (grumpygrapefruit), he has a stand at Zurich Hauptbahnhof and might be able to send you in the right direction.

http://cheeseclub.ch/en/wheretobuy.html
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