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Old 18.06.2007, 00:32
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Hi All

Imagine this... offering your customers a simple solution:

Single-Point Shopping

All your customer's needs are delivered from one company... Your company.
From all aspects of media and presentation, including concept & design, end print media, website creation & hosting and presentation of the highest quality. And this is only the start, there is plenty of room for other ideas and expansion here....

Got your interest? Read on....

How about receiving a contract for the customers of others? Performing the work to meet the needs of the customers of others? Meaning, a group-partner brings you a job for one of their customers...

Hmmmm.... How can this work?

Well, actually it is simple. It is a known fact that single companies (Einzelfirma) in Switzerland have troubles and are becoming a rare object in the Swiss business world. If a group of these Einzelfirmen in Switzerland join together and pool their resources to offer their customers such a "single shopping" point of contact; it would then support each other as well as the customer and their best interests. In other such groups, this concept has proven to be most beneficial to all sides of the contract:
  1. the Customer - who benefits from all aspects of presenting their company's products or services to their customers, both existing and potential, in the most modern and efficient methods known. Best of all, their point of contact is one person; one contact person, one invoice. And this person is a member of our group.
  2. the Point of Contact - you are the direct point of contact for your customer, of the highest worth to your customer when offering the support and backing of a group of interested individuals that are all after the same thing, success for all; your customer and the group.
  3. the Group - the more inter-group contact and job support within the group, the better the group will act and react with your jobs and you will receive more jobs from the group. Optimal is, the more your support the group with jobs, the more the group will support you with jobs from their customers.
This sounds simple, and it is...
I have the intentions of creating a working group of graphic and media based English (mother tongue) speaking small companies which are situated in Switzerland supporting and delivering to Swiss and International companies.

The members of this group will all be ready to deliver as well as support the other members with jobs related. This group is still in the early stages and I have the basis for this group to grow on already in place ready for blast off.

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If you are interested, or possibly you have what it takes to be a member of such a group, please contact me directly at info [at] schmithdigital.ch. I will take each prospect seriously and reply to your e-mail with more details. Please, only official (with Handelsregisterauszug) companies and only those headed by English-speaking persons.

Also, members will benefit from the support of member's professional-branch memberships such as mine (Swiss Professional Photographers), the more the merrier!

Just think... Not only supporting your existing customers with a broader range of products and services, but performing what you do best for the customers of others. Perfect!

Think about it and drop me a line if you are interested... I am!

Best wishes and a cool Summer,
Scott
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Old 18.06.2007, 08:37
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Hi Scott,
I hope by replying I am not heading down spam alley, but for those of us who run our own company, mine being computers, why would someone looking for Swiss chocolate contact me? One-stop shopping I understand, but if I have my clients who need pc's, why and where would I find the time to sell chocolate?
Maybe I am loosing your concept or are you pointing more to a networking system?
hmmm, maybe it is too early to talk in such depth.
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Old 18.06.2007, 08:57
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On initial reading this post sounded like spam. But giving you the benefit of the doubt: a few points for discussion:

a) Who takes the risk ?
b) Who is in control of the overall company/contract ?
c) Who takes the profit ?
d) Do you think such diversity from a group of selfemployed people will yield good results to provide a single service point ?

Unlike your initial post, the idea is not simple at all, and in fraught with uncertainty. There are obviously many successful collectives, but you appear to be proposing something different, and you will need to havea clear focus IMO.

The obvious reponse of anyone considering joining will be "Whats in it for me, and how is that better than what I have now ?"

It doesnt appeal to me, as it seems to be something more than simple partnerships, but it may be a good idea for those in a vertical market, or similar discipline, but even then a share company with active shareholders and clear management structure is probably the way to go, it avoids any confusion about profits and who is actually running the show.


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Hi All

Imagine this... offering your customers a simple solution:

Single-Point Shopping


All your customer's needs are delivered from one company... Your company.
From all aspects of media and presentation, including concept & design, end print media, website creation & hosting and presentation of the highest quality. And this is only the start, there is plenty of room for other ideas and expansion here....

Got your interest? Read on....

How about receiving a contract for the customers of others? Performing the work to meet the needs of the customers of others? Meaning, a group-partner brings you a job for one of their customers...

Hmmmm.... How can this work?

Well, actually it is simple. It is a known fact that single companies (Einzelfirma) in Switzerland have troubles and are becoming a rare object in the Swiss business world. If a group of these Einzelfirmen in Switzerland join together and pool their resources to offer their customers such a "single shopping" point of contact; it would then support each other as well as the customer and their best interests. In other such groups, this concept has proven to be most beneficial to all sides of the contract:
  1. the Customer - who benefits from all aspects of presenting their company's products or services to their customers, both existing and potential, in the most modern and efficient methods known. Best of all, their point of contact is one person; one contact person, one invoice. And this person is a member of our group.
  2. the Point of Contact - you are the direct point of contact for your customer, of the highest worth to your customer when offering the support and backing of a group of interested individuals that are all after the same thing, success for all; your customer and the group.
  3. the Group - the more inter-group contact and job support within the group, the better the group will act and react with your jobs and you will receive more jobs from the group. Optimal is, the more your support the group with jobs, the more the group will support you with jobs from their customers.
This sounds simple, and it is...
I have the intentions of creating a working group of graphic and media based English (mother tongue) speaking small companies which are situated in Switzerland supporting and delivering to Swiss and International companies.

The members of this group will all be ready to deliver as well as support the other members with jobs related. This group is still in the early stages and I have the basis for this group to grow on already in place ready for blast off.

---------------------------------------------

If you are interested, or possibly you have what it takes to be a member of such a group, please contact me directly at info [at] schmithdigital.ch. I will take each prospect seriously and reply to your e-mail with more details. Please, only official (with Handelsregisterauszug) companies and only those headed by English-speaking persons.

Also, members will benefit from the support of member's professional-branch memberships such as mine (Swiss Professional Photographers), the more the merrier!

Just think... Not only supporting your existing customers with a broader range of products and services, but performing what you do best for the customers of others. Perfect!

Think about it and drop me a line if you are interested... I am!

Best wishes and a cool Summer,
Scott
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Old 18.06.2007, 09:02
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The obvious reponse of anyone considering joining will be "Whats in it for me, and how is that better than what I have now ?"
cheers to that!
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Re: Graphic & Media Oriented >>>

I have been part of this sort of 'designers hub' before in the UK. I don't think 'one-stop shopping' is a clear description of what is on offer here, if I undersatnd it.

Essentially the problem was that there were always plenty of designers and never any sales people.
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Old 19.06.2007, 13:47
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Thats a problem for many small businesses, they are so busy concentrating on "doing", they often have little time or inclination to devote to selling it...

Id be interested in a cultural view on selling. Swiss generally like to be in control of decision-making and take their time over it. It must be quite frustrating coming from another culture, and there must be quite a learning curve..

Maybe "Selling in Switzerland" deserves a thread all its own..

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On initial reading this post sounded like spam. But giving you the benefit of the doubt: a few points for discussion:

a) Who takes the risk ?
b) Who is in control of the overall company/contract ?
c) Who takes the profit ?
d) Do you think such diversity from a group of selfemployed people will yield good results to provide a single service point ?

The obvious reponse of anyone considering joining will be "Whats in it for me, and how is that better than what I have now ?"

It doesnt appeal to me...
Spam? Thanks. I would appreciate a bit of respect here, do you see anything for sale in my original post? No. Disappointing to be placed in that drawer.

Here is a brief answer to your questions above:
a) Who takes the risk ?
>Just as anybody in business for themselves, everything is a risk. Actually, the risk here is low with regards to the risk these business owners made when going on their own.
b) Who is in control of the overall company/contract ?
>This is not a company. The contract will be put together from myself and I hope that the first few members will add their input to help make the contract agreeable for all to come.
c) Who takes the profit ?
>There are administrative costs involved, not hefty ones though. These costs will be shared within the group. The profit lands between the members that are involved in each job. Simple. Point.
d) Do you think such diversity from a group of selfemployed people will yield good results to provide a single service point ?
>For one thing, the group will not be so diverse. The membership will be selective and those selected will benefit the other members that participate by bringing jobs to the group members... you don't participate, you don't receive jobs in return. And, this is NOT a single service point, I don't have time to be a babysitter!

Please don't throw threads into a drawer without looking at the big picture. Thanks!

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I hope by replying I am not heading down spam alley, but for those of us who run our own company, mine being computers, why would someone looking for Swiss chocolate contact me? One-stop shopping I understand, but if I have my clients who need pc's, why and where would I find the time to sell chocolate?
Maybe I am loosing your concept or are you pointing more to a networking system?
hmmm, maybe it is too early to talk in such depth.
In answer; no, you are surely not spamming here! Actually, I am not selling carrots or cleaning your plumbing here... The group will sell themselves with the support and services of the entire group. Again, please note my original title, Graphic and Media. Sounds pretty limited if you ask me. Of course if a member wishes to place a stand with chocolates on their counter, I am sure the other members will not mind

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I have been part of this sort of 'designers hub' before in the UK. I don't think 'one-stop shopping' is a clear description of what is on offer here, if I undersatnd it.

Essentially the problem was that there were always plenty of designers and never any sales people.
Correct, this is a form of a hub... One-Stop-Shopping a little too customer oriented, my bad.

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Thats a problem for many small businesses, they are so busy concentrating on "doing", they often have little time or inclination to devote to selling it...
dave
So true.

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Have been a number of e-mails regarding this group coming in, my first contact with these individuals will be soon.

The "What's in it for me, and how can I profit" and other details will happen on our group level. Surely not here. I simply asked for those interested to reply to me. This group will be made up of individuals with interest, if you aren't interested... then thank you for your input!

One thing I will agree with you Dave, is that a "Selling in Switzerland" portion of this Website may be beneficial for many. Of course Mark will make the decision here. Perhaps http://www.englishforum.ch/market-place/ might be the place to visit.

Have a good day!
Scott
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Old 21.06.2007, 11:37
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Spam? Thanks. I would appreciate a bit of respect here, do you see anything for sale in my original post? No. Disappointing to be placed in that drawer.
Actually I sort of felt the same on first read - I think it was the first line that set the spam-like scene - but you weren't placed in the spam drawer, not even a yellow card.
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Old 22.06.2007, 00:18
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There is no drawer to be placed in. I have reread your original post in light of your comments, and it does follow the copy of a sales spiel or flyer. You are of obviously trying to sell your concept.

I dont think anyone has any problem with that, although you should realise that some may view it as spam.

I would have doubts personally about the wisdom of such a scheme until the details had been laid out.

"The Big Picture" ? What is that exactly ? We see a single post on an englishforum at the moment, although I am sure you will develop it further.

You used the expression single-point shopping in the title and body of your teaser, and then you say its not a single-service point. No sure what you mean here.

Are you planning some sort of cooperative or a commercial venture ?

You may not agree with my input, but believe me, you are getting a critique for free, and should you welcome all kinds of feedback in order to refine your idea..

But hey, what is my opinion ? get some professional advisors, and ask them whether they consider the answers to questions at a), b) and c) as important to attract involvement in your venture.

I wish you good luck with idea, and I do mean that sincerely.

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Spam? Thanks. I would appreciate a bit of respect here, do you see anything for sale in my original post? No. Disappointing to be placed in that drawer.

Here is a brief answer to your questions above:
a) Who takes the risk ?
>Just as anybody in business for themselves, everything is a risk. Actually, the risk here is low with regards to the risk these business owners made when going on their own.
b) Who is in control of the overall company/contract ?
>This is not a company. The contract will be put together from myself and I hope that the first few members will add their input to help make the contract agreeable for all to come.
c) Who takes the profit ?
>There are administrative costs involved, not hefty ones though. These costs will be shared within the group. The profit lands between the members that are involved in each job. Simple. Point.
d) Do you think such diversity from a group of selfemployed people will yield good results to provide a single service point ?
>For one thing, the group will not be so diverse. The membership will be selective and those selected will benefit the other members that participate by bringing jobs to the group members... you don't participate, you don't receive jobs in return. And, this is NOT a single service point, I don't have time to be a babysitter!

Please don't throw threads into a drawer without looking at the big picture. Thanks!



In answer; no, you are surely not spamming here! Actually, I am not selling carrots or cleaning your plumbing here... The group will sell themselves with the support and services of the entire group. Again, please note my original title, Graphic and Media. Sounds pretty limited if you ask me. Of course if a member wishes to place a stand with chocolates on their counter, I am sure the other members will not mind



Correct, this is a form of a hub... One-Stop-Shopping a little too customer oriented, my bad.



So true.

-----------------------------------

Have been a number of e-mails regarding this group coming in, my first contact with these individuals will be soon.

The "What's in it for me, and how can I profit" and other details will happen on our group level. Surely not here. I simply asked for those interested to reply to me. This group will be made up of individuals with interest, if you aren't interested... then thank you for your input!

One thing I will agree with you Dave, is that a "Selling in Switzerland" portion of this Website may be beneficial for many. Of course Mark will make the decision here. Perhaps http://www.englishforum.ch/market-place/ might be the place to visit.

Have a good day!
Scott
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"The Big Picture" ? What is that exactly ? We see a single post on an englishforum at the moment, although I am sure you will develop it further.

You used the expression single-point shopping in the title and body of your teaser, and then you say its not a single-service point. No sure what you mean here.

Are you planning some sort of cooperative or a commercial venture ?

You may not agree with my input, but believe me, you are getting a critique for free, and should you welcome all kinds of feedback in order to refine your idea..

But hey, what is my opinion ? get some professional advisors, and ask them whether they consider the answers to questions at a), b) and c) as important to attract involvement in your venture.

I wish you good luck with idea, and I do mean that sincerely.

dave
Thank you Dave, your first reply did land on a bad note on my end. Your sincere wishes and interest to share your time and keystrokes with me is appreciated!

The concept is surely not a selling point... Better said, a hub or cooperation.

Originally, the though was to offer the cooperation to Swiss one-man-shows. However, with some thought, I decided to offer this to English speaking to support my fellow Swiss implants. Knowing the numbers that visit EF, this is the smartest place to present the plan and see if there is anybody interested.

Of course all EF input is whole heartedly accepted!

@Swissbob: tnx

Have a good weekend!
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