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View Poll Results: Have you got a business are interested in how to do things here or save (avoid) tax?
Would like to have a business but boy don't know where to start 163 39.85%
Am a contractor but my pimps are asking me to bend over and hold my ankles every month 27 6.60%
I am a freelancer doing it myself (so to speak) and want to know more 110 26.89%
I have my own legally structured company and don't like paying so much to everybody 50 12.22%
I am employed but am always interested in any way to reduce tax 52 12.71%
I think this is a waste of breath you oxygen thief 7 1.71%
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switch FROM a "no profit" association to a "profit" one in 2009.
sorry little mistake...
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Hello Richard and whole community
thank you and all the other for incredible amount of info here contained !

I would like to post a simple question that I didn't find all over the thread... if yet replyed please let me have the link.

I am Italian but live in Switzerland with B permit. I am long time president of a sport association in my italian town and, cause of some great changes, it would be possible that we will switch to a "no profit" association to a "profit" one in 2009. This could also include that it will be possible to have earning from our activities (mostly organization of competitions) and it also will be possible that I will earn something for my contribution.
In this case would I need to declare anything in Switzerland ? How do I need to behave in order not to break any law ?

thank you in advance for any advice

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Swiss residents must declare entire global income and global wealth in their Swiss tax returns. You may deduct some expenses from your income.
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Swiss residents must declare entire global income and global wealth in their Swiss tax returns. You may deduct some expenses from your income.
thank you for your reply. In the eventuality of this happen where I can get all the information about it ? Gemeinde or any other place ?

thank you again

Marco
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thank you for your reply. In the eventuality of this happen where I can get all the information about it ? Gemeinde or any other place ?

thank you again

Marco
Gemeinde is always a good place to ask. If your question is too complex, then the Gemeinde (commune) will give you the phone number of the pertinent officer at the Cantonal Tax Department.
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Re: Help for Businesses/Freelancers in CH

Hello everyone!

I am in a hurry. I need a GMBH/SAGL.
What is your experience with costs? For a small GMBH.
I plan to ask a tax advisor to do all. I know I will have to put 20,000 CHF in it. But what about all other costs? In particular if he is nominated administrator?
I was told revision is not necessary but advisable. What do you know?
What about taxes? I will be selling services abroad, so no VAT should be applied.
Thanks!!
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Old 30.06.2008, 16:32
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Hello everyone!

I am in a hurry. I need a GMBH/SAGL.
What is your experience with costs? For a small GMBH.
I plan to ask a tax advisor to do all. I know I will have to put 20,000 CHF in it. But what about all other costs? In particular if he is nominated administrator?
I was told revision is not necessary but advisable. What do you know?
What about taxes? I will be selling services abroad, so no VAT should be applied.
Thanks!!
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Old 30.06.2008, 22:28
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Hello everyone!

I am in a hurry. I need a GMBH/SAGL.
What is your experience with costs? For a small GMBH.
I plan to ask a tax advisor to do all. I know I will have to put 20,000 CHF in it. But what about all other costs? In particular if he is nominated administrator?
I was told revision is not necessary but advisable. What do you know?
What about taxes? I will be selling services abroad, so no VAT should be applied.
Thanks!!
You are engaging a tax adviser. He will have all the answers.
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Re: Help for Businesses/Freelancers in CH

Hi everyone (esp. Richard)

Need some help with an unsual tax situation.

I am Malaysian and my wife is Swiss and we are moving to Switzerland end of the year, having live together in Malaysia for 18 years.
I am an engineer in the oilfield, working about 6 months a year. With holidays, visiting family in Malaysia...etc I will end up residing in Switzerland less than 5 months year. I read somewhere that if my family (=wife, no children) lives in Switzerland then the 6-month-away rule of being non-resident (for tax purpose) does not apply.
My work is mainly in Australia, part of Asia & Africa. I have 1 or 2 contract with companies for my work. My entire income will come from overseas.
In my case do I have to declare all my earnings from overseas ? What kind of tax (insurance, pension...whatever) do I have to pay ? what kind of benefits do I get out of it (unemployment, pension,...) ?
My wife may do some part time work for side income.
If I bring in some money to buy a house then I need to pay wealth tax ?
We still have property & family in Malaysia if that have any implication.

Any answers/suggestions are much appreciated.
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Old 01.08.2008, 08:12
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Hi everyone (esp. Richard)

Need some help with an unsual tax situation.

I am Malaysian and my wife is Swiss and we are moving to Switzerland end of the year, having live together in Malaysia for 18 years.
I am an engineer in the oilfield, working about 6 months a year. With holidays, visiting family in Malaysia...etc I will end up residing in Switzerland less than 5 months year. I read somewhere that if my family (=wife, no children) lives in Switzerland then the 6-month-away rule of being non-resident (for tax purpose) does not apply.
My work is mainly in Australia, part of Asia & Africa. I have 1 or 2 contract with companies for my work. My entire income will come from overseas.
In my case do I have to declare all my earnings from overseas ? What kind of tax (insurance, pension...whatever) do I have to pay ? what kind of benefits do I get out of it (unemployment, pension,...) ?
My wife may do some part time work for side income.
If I bring in some money to buy a house then I need to pay wealth tax ?
We still have property & family in Malaysia if that have any implication.

Any answers/suggestions are much appreciated.
Swiss residents must pay income tax on global income and wealth taxes on global wealth. Every cent you earn, no matter where you work, must be declared here. Similarly, every asset you own must be declared in your Swiss tax return, irrespective of its location. Hence you pay wealth tax on your Malaysian property, bank accounts, etc., even before you transfer any assets to Switzerland.

When you pay taxes and social-security contributions here, then you are also entitled to Swiss public insurance benefits, e.g. old-age pension, surviving dependents' pension, disability, unemployment, etc.
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I am Malaysian and my wife is Swiss and we are moving to Switzerland end of the year, having live together in Malaysia for 18 years.
I am an engineer in the oilfield, working about 6 months a year. With holidays, visiting family in Malaysia...etc I will end up residing in Switzerland less than 5 months year. I read somewhere that if my family (=wife, no children) lives in Switzerland then the 6-month-away rule of being non-resident (for tax purpose) does not apply..
Addenda: When your wife is resident in Switzerland, then you automatically become resident, too. Particularly, as your work site varies, and you are not resident elsewhere.
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Re: Help for Businesses/Freelancers in CH

Thanks very much Goldtop

Any other folks who have experiences to share are much appreciated.
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Re: Help for Businesses/Freelancers in CH

Hi,

I recently (last Monday) visited the AHV (social security office) they gave me a list of what social I should pay based on earnings. www.svazurich.ch
I don't know whether this applies to you if your not in Zurich Canton.

I also visited the Gov office in Zurich for information with regards to
setting up as a einzelfirma (sole trader), which catergory you may
fall into. They were very helpful, spoke perfect english and best of all
no fee for a permit to set up ! this address was Gartenstrasse 14, Zurich.

I hope this helps in some way.

Cheers
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Thanks !!!
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Hi,

I recently (last Monday) visited the AHV (social security office) they gave me a list of what social I should pay based on earnings. www.svazurich.ch
I don't know whether this applies to you if your not in Zurich Canton.

I also visited the Gov office in Zurich for information with regards to
setting up as a einzelfirma (sole trader), which catergory you may
fall into. They were very helpful, spoke perfect english and best of all
no fee for a permit to set up ! this address was Gartenstrasse 14, Zurich.

I hope this helps in some way.

Cheers
The AHV rates and rules are the same everywhere in Switzerland.
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Re: Help for Businesses/Freelancers in CH

I've just moved to Bern this week (due to my partner's job) and am hoping to teach privately in conjunction with being a freelance musician. I am continuing to work back in London but obviously would like to work in Switzerland also as I am spending a lot of time here. However, I am unclear on the legalities of this, ie is there a certain amount I am allowed to earn before being taxed (as in UK), and also would I have to declare my freelance work and apply for a working visa accordingly even if the amount I would potentially earn would be minimal here? Any help/advice would be gratefully received as I haven't had much joy from my emails to the embassy for advice!
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Re: Help for Businesses/Freelancers in CH

Welcome to Switzerland.

I can not be of any help at all, having lived through what you are going through, but in Geneva.The cantons all have different rules.

My similar situation required that I declare myself as self employed, and would then be responsible for paying my own taxes and AVS. I do not have adequate French to get me through such a process , so I took the easy way out and gave the private work away.

There are people who use this thread who are very helpful and do have the knowledge, I hope that one of them will be able to help you.

Get in touch , by all means though if you think there is anything at all, I can help with.
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I've just moved to Bern this week (due to my partner's job) and am hoping to teach privately in conjunction with being a freelance musician. I am continuing to work back in London but obviously would like to work in Switzerland also as I am spending a lot of time here. However, I am unclear on the legalities of this, ie is there a certain amount I am allowed to earn before being taxed (as in UK), and also would I have to declare my freelance work and apply for a working visa accordingly even if the amount I would potentially earn would be minimal here? Any help/advice would be gratefully received as I haven't had much joy from my emails to the embassy for advice!
Where do you live? Bern or London? If Bern, then you pay tax on your worldwide earnings in Switzerland. It sounds like you should register as self employed which will also take care of social security payments. It sounds like you should deregister from the UK tax system.
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Welcome to Switzerland.

I can not be of any help at all, having lived through what you are going through, but in Geneva.The cantons all have different rules.

My similar situation required that I declare myself as self employed, and would then be responsible for paying my own taxes and AVS. I do not have adequate French to get me through such a process , so I took the easy way out and gave the private work away.

There are people who use this thread who are very helpful and do have the knowledge, I hope that one of them will be able to help you.

Get in touch , by all means though if you think there is anything at all, I can help with.
Jen
Once you register as self employed it is pretty much automatic. It would have been worth seeking help before giving up.
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I'm still registered for tax in UK as I do not have a permanent job here in Switzerland (although my home is now here). Also as I am not married (although we own a house together in London) I believe that I am not eligible for a partner's living visa. Due to this I am only 'visiting' (I think I am allowed to stay for 3 months at a time) until I can prove that I have a valid freelance business and can apply for a work permit, or get offered a job. Therefore my status at the moment is somewhat in no-man's-land. I presume that I am not allowed to earn any money here if my status continues to be 'visiting', but then how am I supposed to prove that I will be able to work on a freelance basis and therefore apply for a working visa? Or is it possible just to apply to register for self-employed here without proof of earnings and for me to therefore de-register as you suggest from UK tax?
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