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View Poll Results: Have you got a business are interested in how to do things here or save (avoid) tax?
Would like to have a business but boy don't know where to start 163 39.85%
Am a contractor but my pimps are asking me to bend over and hold my ankles every month 27 6.60%
I am a freelancer doing it myself (so to speak) and want to know more 110 26.89%
I have my own legally structured company and don't like paying so much to everybody 50 12.22%
I am employed but am always interested in any way to reduce tax 52 12.71%
I think this is a waste of breath you oxygen thief 7 1.71%
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I would suggest not using the term sole trader as it might be confusing...replace with '1 person company.
I must admit I am with Swissbob here. The English term sole trader fits exactly what is here intended. ie not a formal registered company with directors/shareholders.
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Re: new Jan 1 GmbH rules

Regarding the audit you can opt out if you don't fulfill certain criteria. Min 10 FTE average over the year being one of them I think.



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I would like to discuss the new changes for GmbH as of Jan 1. Have the changes come in as discussed below ? I am a bit concerned about the need to have a formal accounting firm that reviews and then sends a huge bill. Is this necessary ?
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It will change though with the new "Juristische Person" law to be introduced Jan 1st, so it is not such bad advice to start with 20K. At this point indeed all new GmbH must be 20K and must have a formal revisionstelle ie accountancy firm that checks the books and signs off on them and sends a bill for 10K! There are also other changes such as being able to set up a GmbH as a single person and not requiring two people.
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I must admit I am with Swissbob here. The English term sole trader fits exactly what is here intended. ie not a formal registered company with directors/shareholders.
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Yes, with the new law one person company could mean a GmbH so that is not a good term under the very new regulations. Trader still gives the idea of someone trading etc. I knew it was probably an English term as this is definitely not used in the United States or Canada.
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Re: Help for Businesses/Freelancers in CH

Hi all,

Looking to set up GmbH in Zug. Any recommendations for a good Notary would be much appreciated.


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Old 10.01.2008, 15:23
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Looking to set up GmbH in Zug. Any recommendations for a good Notary would be much appreciated.


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That's brilliant Mr. Swiss Bob. What will they think of next? Computers that connect to each other over the telephone line? Kids these days, I tell ya.....
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Re: Help for Businesses/Freelancers in CH

Ok. Another question: How do I set up a domicile in Zug. I'm planning on living in Luzern for the time being and working from home. Will a post office box be enough?
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Ok. Another question: How do I set up a domicile in Zug. I'm planning on living in Luzern for the time being and working from home. Will a post office box be enough?
Generally they won't accept a PO box as a company domicile.

Some accountants and similar offer a domiciliation address but want to do your accounts fro the privilege (£££££). I have used Regus but they are stupidly expensive.
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Ok. Another question: How do I set up a domicile in Zug. I'm planning on living in Luzern for the time being and working from home. Will a post office box be enough?
If you are looking to set up a GmbH then where you live is immaterial. If you are looking to "avoid" paying heavier taxes in Luzern compared to Zug it is the place of primary residence where you are taxed and that will be luzern...
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If you are looking to set up a GmbH then where you live is immaterial. If you are looking to "avoid" paying heavier taxes in Luzern compared to Zug it is the place of primary residence where you are taxed and that will be luzern...
What about company tax - I live in SG but my company is taxed in ZH.
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Re: Help for Businesses/Freelancers in CH

My question is the same as Swissbob's. I know my salary will be taxed wherever I happen to live but how about Company tax? I thought If by domiciling the company in Zug, I can pay lower company tax or am I not getting the whole picture......
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Re: Help for Businesses/Freelancers in CH

Go to Kanton Zürich and use the public notaries there - much cheaper and they are usually very helpful. So helpfull that you normally can do the whole procedure about setting up the GmbH yourself.


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Old 10.01.2008, 17:00
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This official page from Kanton Zürich is also excellent:

www.gruenden.ch




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My question is the same as Swissbob's. I know my salary will be taxed wherever I happen to live but how about Company tax? I thought If by domiciling the company in Zug, I can pay lower company tax or am I not getting the whole picture......
Talking about the whole picture - I just noticed you are non-EU? Is it the intention for the GmbH to be your employer and if so, have you got a residence permit sorted out? You'll need that before you register the company unless you have a tame residence MD.
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Re: Help for Businesses/Freelancers in CH

Yes, I'm not EU but my wife is. We're going to set up the company together. That's also what your post 133 previously said so I'm thinking it won't be a problem?
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Yes, I'm not EU but my wife is. We're going to set up the company together. That's also what your post 133 previously said so I'm thinking it won't be a problem?
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Re: Help for Businesses/Freelancers in CH

Chicken soup; I hear it helps with all kinds of ailments
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Chicken soup; I hear it helps with all kinds of ailments
If you are actually looking for a one stop shop to set up a business domiciled in Zug then your best bet would be to check out www.launchswiss.ch - they can do the lot for you fixed price. Note you are going to need quite some turnover to justify the cost...
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Well, I'll have to do some cost/benefit calculation as to whether a virtual office is worth the price. Probably just set up company and live in Obwalden or something if not.
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Generally they won't accept a PO box as a company domicile.

Some accountants and similar offer a domiciliation address but want to do your accounts fro the privilege (£££££). I have used Regus but they are stupidly expensive.
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I can confirm this. You need a street address and while with a GmbH one can do a c/o, this can be expensive. I wonder what would be the range of 'stupidly expensive'. 10K per year (Swiss francs) ?
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