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Old 18.02.2020, 11:10
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Swiss launch of the Porsche Taycan - also one for the starwars fans ;)

on the 29/02/2020 Porsche Basel will launch the new all electric Taycan

https://www.porsche-basel.ch/newsand...emiere&lang=de

but with a difference, as Porsche sponsored the lastest starwars movie its going to be a starwars themed launch, lots of characters from the films and props etc will be there including R2-D2 and R2-KT
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on the 29/02/2020 Porsche Basel will launch the new all electric Taycan

https://www.porsche-basel.ch/newsand...emiere&lang=de

but with a difference, as Porsche sponsored the lastest starwars movie its going to be a starwars themed launch, lots of characters from the films and props etc will be there including R2-D2 and R2-KT
I hope they are renting from you. Because otherwise, meh. I expect a lot more from Porsche than a car that can't beat a 4-door, 5-seat sedan car in any department.
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Old 18.02.2020, 15:12
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Re: Swiss launch of the Porsche Taycan - also one for the starwars fans ;)

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I hope they are renting from you. Because otherwise, meh. I expect a lot more from Porsche than a car that can't beat a 4-door, 5-seat sedan car in any department.
...and an 8-year old one to boot.
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...and an 8-year old one to boot.
Probably a 4-door, 7-seater, in that case.
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Old 18.02.2020, 15:31
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Re: Swiss launch of the Porsche Taycan - also one for the starwars fans ;)

Thanks for the invite. I was planning to go to Porsche Oftringen. Now I have to convince my wife of driving a bit longer...then register.

Relax, let's just enjoy our 4 wheel toys which probably never had the traction control set to OFF

PS. It's good for the soul to see beautiful 911s
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Old 18.02.2020, 16:36
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Re: Swiss launch of the Porsche Taycan - also one for the starwars fans ;)

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they are
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Old 18.02.2020, 17:23
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Re: Swiss launch of the Porsche Taycan - also one for the starwars fans ;)

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I hope they are renting from you. Because otherwise, meh. I expect a lot more from Porsche than a car that can't beat a 4-door, 5-seat sedan car in any department.
from all the tesla's I've seen close up, and admittedly only the one taycan, the porsche kill tesla on build quality
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from all the tesla's I've seen close up, and admittedly only the one taycan, the porsche kill tesla on build quality

And the first news about Taycan on fire

Sounds so familiar for Tesla and gets so much attention. Welcome to the club Porsche.
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from all the tesla's I've seen close up, and admittedly only the one taycan, the porsche kill tesla on build quality
So the Porsche should. Compare prices...
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Re: Swiss launch of the Porsche Taycan - also one for the starwars fans ;)

Certainly wins on 'looks', saw it this week in Chicago...... gorgeous!!

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from all the tesla's I've seen close up, and admittedly only the one taycan, the porsche kill tesla on build quality
That and driving dynamics - at least.
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Re: Swiss launch of the Porsche Taycan - also one for the starwars fans ;)

So the Porsche wins on
- driving dynamics
- exterior design
- interior design
- build quality
- 800V System (if you ever find a charger that supports it)

It loses on
- range

A Dacia probably has more range than a 911 turbo as well in the petrol world... but nobody ever thought like that.
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Old 19.02.2020, 09:42
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So the Porsche wins on
- driving dynamics
- exterior design
- interior design
- build quality
- 800V System (if you ever find a charger that supports it)
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If that's your criteria then the Lotus Evija will beat Porsche on all of those.

The Tesla is a different car for a different market sector - a friend of ours goes to the ski slopes in his with his wife and four children - and skis etc. You won't do that in the Porsche.

Of course the Lotus isn't in the same category as the Porsche either. But that was my point.
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So the Porsche wins on
- driving dynamics
- exterior design
- interior design
- build quality
- 800V System (if you ever find a charger that supports it)

It loses on
- range

A Dacia probably has more range than a 911 turbo as well in the petrol world... but nobody ever thought like that.
You missed the criteria that matter in bragging competitions:
- the Tesla is faster in a drag race
- but the Porsche is faster when you do 10 drag races
- and most important: the Porsche is faster on the Nürburgring
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So the Porsche wins on
- driving dynamics
- exterior design
- interior design
- build quality
- 800V System (if you ever find a charger that supports it)

It loses on
- range

A Dacia probably has more range than a 911 turbo as well in the petrol world... but nobody ever thought like that.
Someone seems to have switched your computer off in the middle of your post. Presumably you're comparing the Taycan turbo S to the Tesla Model S Performance.

The exterior and interior design are subjective, so the Taycan wins for you (in the 4-seater sports car category) and loses for others who want or need a proper sedan. Admittedly, Porsche has an appalling record when it comes to designing 4-door cars, and the Taycan is by far the best of a very bad bunch. Even if it does have a stupid name ("turbo"?!)

Much the same with driving dynamics—it's all in the eye of the beholder. I don't doubt, though, that the Taycan handles like a sports car.

As for build quality, I've not yet inspected a Taycan. You might remember that I've been a very vocal critic of Teslas for some time, and the car I bought had some minor issues. But they were somewhat less critical than I expected and they were all rectified, quickly and completely. But for the extra $90,000 or so, I agree, the Taycan probably wins on build quality.

The 800V system—well, you said it. And while we're on the subject, you seem to have forgotten about Tesla's network of Superchargers, which are even free for many drivers.

So, after we agree that the Taycan loses heavily on range (and yes, range anxiety is a thing, and very different in EVs to having to fill up your 911 turbo every 300 km), let's continue the list of where the top-of-the-range Taycan loses against the Model S Performance:

- charging network
- acceleration (oh, that's embarrassing)
- top speed (oops)
- power (even on over-boost)
- autonomous driving
- infotainment
- over-the-air updates
- seating capacity
- price

The Taycan is a nice car. But in no way is it significantly "better" than the Model S, especially if you start comparing the lower-spec versions. Its advantages rest in subjective measures.

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Re: Swiss launch of the Porsche Taycan - also one for the starwars fans ;)

Cars are so 'out' in the constellation of things in a growing number of people.
These things are becoming as trendy as a suit and tie.
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Cars are so 'out' in the constellation of things in a growing number of people.
These things are becoming as trendy as a suit and tie.

Indeed, in some places the parking costs make you think about why having a car in first place......then the question becomes: why live in those cramped places?
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