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english speaking wing chun tuition

Hello I run a private (by invitation only) wing chun school between Urdorf and Schlieren studio setting. I am the swiss representative of this style (Yip Chun/Yip Man lineage pedigree!!)
My teacher is a proper master of the art and is one of the 14 worldwide reps.
If you want to see the english website
www.purewingchun.co.uk
here you will see a brief outline of what will be taught in my school and my Sifu comes over peridically to give seminars and check on progress.
lessons are from 1930-2100 mon and thursdays
if you are interested please send me a private message
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Old 04.08.2009, 15:54
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Can you give more info on fees etc??
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Old 04.08.2009, 15:59
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Shame you are so far away
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Re: english speaking wing chun tuition

Hi, I am interested. I have sent you a PM. thanks.
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Old 13.08.2009, 12:15
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Re: english speaking wing chun tuition

for information;
I set up this school one year ago on the request of my instructor in England. This was in response to my question of a school to train at in Switzerland, to which he replied 'the only way for you to progress your training is to start a school and teach your students up to your level, then you will have arms to train with'.
There are many martial arts schools around and there are also many jokers who will take your money and offer little of use in return. I am offering the opportunity to learn ORIGINAL WING CHUN as taught by Sigung Yip Man, (the original teacher of Bruce Lee) as passed down through his eldest son Yip Chun and then on to me directly or through my Sifu Colin Ward one of only 3 OFFICIAL western representatives of this devastating style.
This really is the little guy beats the big guy fighting style and is sometimes referred to as the 'lazy man's martial art'.
I offer exclusive training in a studio location limited places(only 20 places adults only!) by invitation only, money is not my main motivation I just need some arms to train with.....
25chf for the beginners lessons
100chf per month should you be invited to train.
one of the most valuable things you possess in life is time, don't waste it on jokers....
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Old 13.08.2009, 23:38
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Do you practice blindfolded, I love doing that!
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Do you practice blindfolded, I love doing that!
With a bucket on the head and a piece of hosepipe?? ( name the film?)

Seriously, Its a shame you are so far away etc. Would love to get back into MA again
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of course, and don't forget 3 man dan chi sau!!!
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Old 14.08.2009, 14:54
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of course, and don't forget 3 man dan chi sau!!!
Wo! I have never done 3 man, how does that work-in a circle? I will try to check it out on you tube. That would be so weird, yet interesting!
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Wo! I have never done 3 man, how does that work-in a circle? I will try to check it out on you tube. That would be so weird, yet interesting!
that's right in a circle, I suppose theoretically the circle could be as big as you like.... of course you have to recognise that you are compromising centre line, but it is a fantastic sensitivity exercise to 'stay in the moment'...
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Old 17.08.2009, 15:27
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What drives me is 'to stay in the moment'. However, I can see enormous potential, this could be used in management training- group dynamics, centre line theory, making sure your right hand is aware of what the left is doing, flow of energy..... I know that the root of all evil ( money) should be the focus, but I am serious, I am sure that the Swiss would love it! It can also teach overworked managers relaxation, concentration and focus techniques- a great de-stresser.
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What drives me is 'to stay in the moment'. However, I can see enormous potential, this could be used in management training- group dynamics, centre line theory, making sure your right hand is aware of what the left is doing, flow of energy..... I know that the root of all evil ( money) should be the focus, but I am serious, I am sure that the Swiss would love it! It can also teach overworked managers relaxation, concentration and focus techniques- a great de-stresser.
wow I should have got you to write my advert!

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Hello I run a private (by invitation only) wing chun school between Urdorf and Schlieren studio setting. I am the swiss representative of this style (Yip Chun/Yip Man lineage pedigree!!)
My teacher is a proper master of the art and is one of the 14 worldwide reps.
If you want to see the english website
www.purewingchun.co.uk
here you will see a brief outline of what will be taught in my school and my Sifu comes over peridically to give seminars and check on progress.
lessons are from 1930-2100 mon and thursdays
if you are interested please send me a private message
David
Hi David a question or two if I may. How hard do you guys train, and do you do contact or semi-contact sparring? I used to be a member of the UK Wing Chun Association and found that compared to a previous school I tried (Kamon) that it was much better in terms of training etc, and it focussed on fitness and heavy padwork/partner sparring in addition to the core skills, which is something that many WC schools (and often Kung-Fu in general) neglect to do. Without the conditioning to back up the skills there's not much point learning it in my opinion. Some feedback would be good as i'm looking at starting either WC or JKD again (here http://www.jkd.ch/). Thanks.
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Old 17.08.2009, 17:58
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Hi David a question or two if I may. How hard do you guys train, and do you do contact or semi-contact sparring? I used to be a member of the UK Wing Chun Association and found that compared to a previous school I tried (Kamon) that it was much better in terms of training etc, and it focussed on fitness and heavy padwork/partner sparring in addition to the core skills, which is something that many WC schools (and often Kung-Fu in general) neglect to do. Without the conditioning to back up the skills there's not much point learning it in my opinion. Some feedback would be good as i'm looking at starting either WC or JKD again (here http://www.jkd.ch/). Thanks.
Hello Richdog, I don't want to get into a debate discussing the 'merits' of pad work or fitness training. My opinion differs from yours let me put it like that. As to the training you have made so far I cannot comment.
I would say however, I learned traditional boxing as a child then I did Taekwondo (Black belt), then I did a little bit of Thai boxing all styles which love a good yell and a whack on the bag or block of wood.....
I would say that about 6months into my Wing chun training I realised I had discovered something different something that works on the street. It is like a scientific approach to fighting. You don't need conditioning to strike with power you only need to utilise your body weight in the correct manner, a basic understanding of centre line rule and explosive energy helps aswell.
All the guys I trained with in England have a background in other martial arts which helped them realise that wing chun 'works'.
For instance my wife trains, she doesn't do any 'condition training' but you wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of a fax sau from her believe me.
There are two schools of thought in wing chun,
Yip Ching
teaches the 'hard' style
Yip Chun
teaches the 'soft' style
I represent the latter, the 'soft' style...... (the original style)
as a footnote I would also like to mention that I would prefer to teach students with no prior wing chun experience as undoubtedly there will be a lot to fix before I can teach....and I don't want to justify everything which contradicts any previous learning....
I hope you understand where I am coming from
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Old 17.08.2009, 18:23
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Re: english speaking wing chun tuition

I'm interested in this and would like some more info please.

I have mixed marital arts experience starting with shotokan karate but never really took to it. Judo which I practised for a number of years, and Wing Chun (for about 6 months until i broke my leg in a motor cycle accident when I was 16). So as that was 30+ years ago figure I've forgotten any WC I learnt, but I would like to get back into some form of disciplined training.

What kind of age/fitness levels would be required for your school?
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Old 17.08.2009, 18:35
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Mine is this lineage
Ip Man ->
Moy Yat ->
Sunny Tang -

I also did TKD , hapkido, kick boxing and a tiny bit of boxing.

Wing Chun is a far more efficient way of fighting.
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wow I should have got you to write my advert!

Funny you should say that the last martial arts that I did marketing for had record sign ups. Sign ups are easy, but you need a harmonious group for retention, that comes with a quality product, fun but no flash gimmickry!
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Hello Richdog, I don't want to get into a debate discussing the 'merits' of pad work or fitness training. My opinion differs from yours let me put it like that. As to the training you have made so far I cannot comment.
I would say however, I learned traditional boxing as a child then I did Taekwondo (Black belt), then I did a little bit of Thai boxing all styles which love a good yell and a whack on the bag or block of wood.....
I would say that about 6months into my Wing chun training I realised I had discovered something different something that works on the street. It is like a scientific approach to fighting. You don't need conditioning to strike with power you only need to utilise your body weight in the correct manner, a basic understanding of centre line rule and explosive energy helps aswell.
All the guys I trained with in England have a background in other martial arts which helped them realise that wing chun 'works'.
For instance my wife trains, she doesn't do any 'condition training' but you wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of a fax sau from her believe me.
There are two schools of thought in wing chun,
Yip Ching
teaches the 'hard' style
Yip Chun
teaches the 'soft' style
I represent the latter, the 'soft' style...... (the original style)
as a footnote I would also like to mention that I would prefer to teach students with no prior wing chun experience as undoubtedly there will be a lot to fix before I can teach....and I don't want to justify everything which contradicts any previous learning....
I hope you understand where I am coming from
David
Thanks for your answer, I know where you're coming form, and it sounds like your school isn't for me. Having tried a bit of a mix of things, hard and soft, I know which one I rely on to get me out of a sticky situation. I just personally feel that no conditioning or sparring doesn't make for an effective self-defence system and doesn't really prepare you for the situations you're going to using it in (god forbid you ever have to) . Best of luck with the school though.

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Wing Chun is a far more efficient way of fighting.
Efficient in terms of energy used, yes, but practical and effective vs a boxer or MT artist who is trained to take a hit much harder than most WC practitioners produce... probably not. I do like WC, but I feel as I said above, that you need to mix the hard with the soft if you want to be able to have a shot at handling yourself.

Anyway sorry to take the thread a bit off-topic, maybe we need a dedicated MA thread on here.
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Old 17.08.2009, 19:08
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Thanks for your answer, I know where you're coming form, and it sounds like your school isn't for me. Having tried a bit of a mix of things, hard and soft, I know which one I rely on to get me out of a sticky situation. I just personally feel that no conditioning or sparring doesn't make for an effective self-defence system and doesn't really prepare you for the situations you're going to using it in (god forbid you ever have to) . Best of luck with the school though.



Efficient in terms of energy used, yes, but practical and effective vs a boxer or MT artist who is trained to take a hit much harder than most WC practitioners produce... probably not. I do like WC, but I feel as I said above, that you need to mix the hard with the soft if you want to be able to have a shot at handling yourself.

Anyway sorry to take the thread a bit off-topic, maybe we need a dedicated MA thread on here.
yeh thats exactly what I didn't want this thread to turn into a debate about hard or soft, full contact vs control etc...boxer vs capoirera etc. etc...
for the record soft style doesn't mean soft strike.... !
and so far as 'training to take a hit' goes.??...'....ah ah ahhh.. you nearly got me started........
start another thread I will be happy to comment....
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