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Newborn Model Call (Bern)

We are looking for newborn models (5-15 days old)
From April onwards for photo sessions.
Locaion : Bern or surrounding areas.
Sessions would be conducted in your home.

Professionaly retouched photos would be given in return for your and your little ones time.

Check us on facebook : Www.facebook.com/sweetazurephotography

Feel free to pass this on to your friends who may be interested.
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Re: Newborn Model Call (Bern)

So what will you do then with the pictures?
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Old 07.03.2017, 21:36
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Free Newborn Photo Session (Bern & nearby)

Hello,

We are offering free newborn photo session for babies 5-15 days old from April onwards for3 babies.
The photo session would be held at your home in Bern or nearby areas.
You will be given professionaly retouched images as a thank you gesture.

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Re: Free Newborn Photo Session (Bern & nearby)

Didn't you post something very similar a while ago? And the question still stands: what will you do with the pictures afterwards and who will own the image of the child?
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Old 07.03.2017, 21:48
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Re: Free Newborn Photo Session (Bern & nearby)

Strange, I asked the exact same question and either that post has gone or OP has deleted that thread?

Edit: it was posted under commercial events
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Didn't you post something very similar a while ago? And the question still stands: what will you do with the pictures afterwards and who will own the image of the child?
I cant fid that thread !
Thus I posted it here again..

The conditions would ofcourse be discussed with the parent before the session.
The high res images would be given to the parents. They would also be part of our portfolio then and maybe posted on our facebook page or website in future.
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I cant fid that thread !
Thus I posted it here again..

The conditions would ofcourse be discussed with the parent before the session.
The high res images would be given to the parents. They would also be part of our portfolio then and maybe posted on our facebook page or website in future.
Well, if you just had clicked on your own posts you would have found it.

I think the question still remains where you would post those pictures and what you intend to do with them? Nowadays people are warned not to post pictures of babies and small children on FB and other sites for obvious reasons?
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Strange, I asked the exact same question and either that post has gone or OP has deleted that thread?

Edit: it was posted under commercial events
I know, I thanked you. I couldn't find it either so acted as your Second.
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Well, if you just had clicked on your own posts you would have found it.

I think the question still remains where you would post those pictures and what you intend to do with them? Nowadays people are warned not to post pictures of babies and small children on FB and other sites for obvious reasons?
Newborns look quite the same
Honestly there are tons of pictures of newborn photoshoots online.
If a parent does not want this, they can ignore this post.
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Newborns look quite the same
I wouldn't go round telling new parents and potential image giver-awayers that if I were you.

And they don't. They're variations on a theme but not the same.
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We are looking for newborn models (5-15 days old)
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Sessions would be conducted in your home.
In the home of a newborn baby?!

Why, why, why would any sane parent of a new baby invite a stranger into their own home to photograph the child, on the understanding that the photos would then belong to the photographer's profile?
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Re: Free Newborn Photo Session (Bern & nearby)

Lots of busy-bodies on EF tonight.

Lots of photographers do what the OP is offering - the Photographer gets to increase their portfolio and the parents get professionally taken photos for free or a reduced price.

What's not to like?
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A great deal.


St2lemans: your issue with my post is what exactly?
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St2lemans: your issue with my post is what exactly?
To each his own. If a parent likes the offer they can take it up, else leave it.

As rightly said by Tom, this is a standard offer by new photographers for portfolio building.
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As rightly said by Tom, this is a standard offer by new photographers for portfolio building.
I stand corrected. Yes, I googled and found that this is true.

But I am still amazed that a parent of a newborn baby (or any child, for that matter) would go along with such an offer:
  • letting a stranger have access to Baby,
  • making sure Stranger knew where Baby lives and would have plenty of opportunity to document the home and environment, and then
  • letting Stranger own the photos of Baby, to do with whatever Stranger likes.
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I stand corrected. Yes, I googled and found that this is true.

But I am still amazed that a parent of a newborn baby (or any child, for that matter) would go along with such an offer:
  • letting a stranger have access to Baby,
  • making sure Stranger knew where Baby lives and would have plenty of opportunity to document the home and environment, and then
  • letting Stranger own the photos of Baby, to do with whatever Stranger likes.

They can come to my home with the baby too
Doing it at their place is just a matter of convinience, its not hard and fast.
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Had a look at your Facebook, which has virtually no information about you or your company. No reviews from past clients either. Is there a website containing more information?
Even if you are offering free of charge photos, I think for the sake of establishing trust and not wasting yours and the parents' times, it would help to write about your background , including training, areas&years of experience, style, equipment etc.
Then I would add some words on how a typical session looks like, what to expect, how to prepare and so on.
The terms and conditions of the contract need to be elaborated on. These include the question of ownership of images. What rights do you want on the photos. Making sure the photos are not going to be used for commercial purposes (eg you do not plan on sellig them for profit) , at least not without consent of the baby's parents.
Also setting forth how long clients can expect to wait till they receive the photographs and how you deal with requests to edit photographs would be of interest.

If you are just starting out, a good way to gain experience or broaden your portfolio is to photograph for charities. Have a look at Room to read and Make a Wish Foundation CH.

Joining a photographers' Association is also a good way to stay up to date and continue improving your skills.
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I stand corrected. Yes, I googled and found that this is true.

But I am still amazed that a parent of a newborn baby (or any child, for that matter) would go along with such an offer:
  • letting a stranger have access to Baby,
  • making sure Stranger knew where Baby lives and would have plenty of opportunity to document the home and environment, and then
  • letting Stranger own the photos of Baby, to do with whatever Stranger likes.
I feel like this concern makes a lot more sense in the near-anonymity of a city. Out here the done thing is to put up a huge sign outside the house, with baby's full name and birth date. We didn't go that far but even so, I'm pretty sure that anybody asking for "the American lady with the twins" would be directed straight to our house. So I have had to redefine my expectations of privacy, for myself and my family. The fact we exist, our names and faces and address and to some extent even our weekly habits (Tuesday playgroup with a stop at the dairy on way home, etc) are all more or less a matter of public record. That's just how it is in a village. So the idea of a Facebook photo with my kids' faces on it, tagged to my name or our playgroup's location, doesn't horrify me on bare principle as it once did. And an anonymous photo of two unnamed babies on a photographer's website would worry me even less.

As for strangers having access to my baby, mine were born in a hospital. We stayed there for 7 days. I've lost count of the number of strangers who had access to them in that time (including times when they were out of my sight.) Then we came home, and the midwife who visited to check on us at home was a stranger. The nice lady from the Mütterberatung who also visited our home was a stranger. Our pediatrician, my daughter's physiotherapist... all strangers. In fact an endless parade of strangers, in and out of our hospital room, our living room and our appointment calendar - all just as I was trying to settle into the acquaintance of my two precious little strangers. But I was cool with that, because they all had a valid reason to be in our lives at that time: a clear, professionally defined role to play.

If we had chosen to engage a photographer at around the same time, I guess I wouldn't have seen that as any different. One more stranger, one more appointment with a stranger. At least this one won't have to poke my baby's heel and make him cry.
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It is not the same thing at all. Unless your medical team was picked from a discussion board post without background checks.
This is about a self-employed photographer who has given limited background infos. The nurses, Mutterberaterin, psych doctors and pediatricians were all vetted, eg by the hospital, and they were I assume people who earned certain qualifications, such is the case with registered nurse. If a hospital personnel misused your personal data, there would be consequences, including from the hospital. At the very least, your doctors and carers came with a recommendation from someone you trust and/or had a website detailing their background.
Which is why I recommended to OP to list her educational or professiona background. At the end of the day we all deserve quality services, medical or nonmedical .
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