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Old 16.12.2010, 09:24
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Re: Swiss TV: Why can it not be a bit better?

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Just my luck, we get English language channels here and they're from England??

Not that Im against English tv or humor, but its not the only representation of the English speaking world.
No, but it's the best representation of the English speaking world.

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Old 16.12.2010, 09:33
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Re: Swiss TV: Why can it not be a bit better?

I actually quite like the Swiss channels and can no longer relate to the BBC (shows how long I've been here). I like it when Heinz Gunthart commentates on tennis matches and often watch 10vor10, Einstein or things like that. Our kids like watching Al Dente. They also often put films on at reasonable times with only one advert block in the middle. As for Tele Züri I only watch the news but it gives you a bit of an idea of what's going on locally. So far I've resisted digital as I would be far too tempted and there are so many better things to do than watch the telly

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Old 16.12.2010, 09:57
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Just my luck, we get English language channels here and they're from England??
I have to say, the default Cablecom offerings in English are shite, but that's because I'm too cheap to pay for anything. Bitch about American TV all you want but I don't see the crap on Brit TV being any better. You have to sift through a lot of crap to find a pearl.
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Old 16.12.2010, 10:10
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I have to say, the default Cablecom offerings in English are shite, but that's because I'm too cheap to pay for anything. Bitch about American TV all you want but I don't see the crap on Brit TV being any better. You have to sift through a lot of crap to find a pearl.
I know, I was sifting through the channels last night and the amount of original programming is miniscule (I'm sorry; Countdown and Come Dine with me excluded)

I would give my left arm if CBS, ABC, NBC, and FOX etc were broadcast here in the same fashion as ESPN America. Live primetime shows in the early morning hours with a repeat in primetime the next day. (eliminate local news, and the daytime shows and soaps) I would never look at another torrent

PS: I dont mean to demean British TV but there are non-POM English speakers in Switzerland but everything is tailored for you. Even the new COOP food selection is tailored for you guys. Cant us Canucks, Amis, Kiwis, Aussies, and 'Boks get some love here
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Old 16.12.2010, 10:31
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Even the new COOP food selection is tailored for you guys. Cant us Canucks, Amis, Kiwis, Aussies, and 'Boks get some love here
- The Coop 'British' food selection includes bagels (sort of American), Mrs Ball's chutneys (from South Africa) and Waterthin crackers (from Australia)
- There are plenty of Irish pubs in Switzerland
- Globus currently has an 'American Christmas' theme
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Old 16.12.2010, 10:40
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Trev, are you sure it wasn't "Dancing with the Porn Stars"?
Can somebody please explain to me what is so exciting or adventurous about a man prancing around in his knickers and socks
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Old 16.12.2010, 10:42
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Can somebody please explain to me what is so exciting or adventurous about a man prancing around in his knickers and socks
...did you by any chance notice the friendly lady that was dancing with him?
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Old 16.12.2010, 10:43
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...did you by any chance notice the friendly lady that was dancing with him?
Yes I did, but since I'm female I paid more attention to him, and he was blxxdy awful!
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Old 16.12.2010, 10:47
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Yes I did, but since I'm female I paid more attention to him, and he was blxxdy awful!
You're a female too? First Hoppy now you.

Back on topic, as much as the lady looked enticing and all, I found it rather tasteless and a very low form of entertainment. It was almost as aweful as the Swiss one..just not quite

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I think in general British TV is good quality, but the best comedy and drama series still come from the US. The UK has produced nothing to the standard of Breaking Bad or Friday Night Lights.
Drama. yes. But comedy? purleeease!
You've got a small handful of funny ones but sorry, the British wipe the floor with you when it comes to decent quality comedy - esspecially original comedy series.
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Drama. yes. But comedy? purleeease!
You've got a small handful of funny ones but sorry, the British wipe the floor with you when it comes to decent quality comedy - esspecially original comedy series.
"The British wipe the floor with you"

Um . . . I'm British.

On UK telly currently we have Peep Show, which is great.

On US telly we've recently had Eastbound and Down, Parks and Rec, Modern Family and 30 Rock. Curb Your Enthusiasm is still going as well.
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Old 16.12.2010, 12:37
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Re: Swiss TV: Why can it not be a bit better?

Maybe cause Swiss media is still somewhat state run, or at least heavly influenced by the state. They are not allowed to report on any stories unless it has been cleared and approved by the bundersrat.

I dont watch T.V but the last time I was in the states I decided to see what was on. All I saw were commercials for drugs that gave you a multitude of side effects (including death) but without telling you what they were supposed to cure And these commercials were periodically interrupted by some show which I had long since forgotten the plot before all the drugs being pushed on me.
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Old 16.12.2010, 12:48
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They are not allowed to report on any stories unless it has been cleared and approved by the bundersrat.
Hmmmm, now I don't want to get all "Wollishofenerish" on you but that's not correct. Can you imagine calling in a Bundesrat-meeting every afternoon at 6 p.m. just to go through the daily news headlines
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Old 16.12.2010, 12:54
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Maybe cause Swiss media is still somewhat state run, or at least heavly influenced by the state. They are not allowed to report on any stories unless it has been cleared and approved by the bundersrat.
The better half of German TV are actually nearly exclusively on the state owned channels. Yes, not only the higher quality news programs (because good journalists cost money and bring little ad revenues, so you hardly find them in the private channels) - the entertainment programs as well. The state media is in my experience less controlled by the government than the private ones by their owners and main advertisement customers...
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Maybe cause Swiss media is still somewhat state run, or at least heavly influenced by the state. They are not allowed to report on any stories unless it has been cleared and approved by the bundersrat.
The BBC is still somewhat state run but the news programmes manage to not tow the government line all the time.
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Old 16.12.2010, 13:19
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Re: Swiss TV: Why can it not be a bit better?

It seems that most media in every country is more or less a propaganda spin machine. Thank god for wiki leaks and other "independent" sources
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Old 16.12.2010, 13:41
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Maybe cause Swiss media is still somewhat state run, or at least heavly influenced by the state. They are not allowed to report on any stories unless it has been cleared and approved by the bundersrat.
I think this idea has already been poo-poohed in subsequent replies.
I believe it's purely and simply a question of money. Switzerland (as we all know) is a relatively small land, and even from our high taxes, only has a limited budget to give to the state owned (not run) TV media -- which then has to be further divided between 3 language variants (4 if you count the occasional 1/2 hr. slot of Romansch thrown onto the other channels occasionally for good measure).
It is obviously cheaper to pay to "import", in one of the 3 main languages, from our neighbours, then produce much here - exceptions being current/cultural/consumer affairs (studio based, "sitting around talking about it") type programmes -- just need a few old pieces of furniture picked up from the Ef., to dress the set.
Re. English language series/comedies/dramas from UK and US - again cheaper to pay for series a bit out of date, then cough up big bucks for the current latest season.
If you're here, and, follow these, for long enough (and don't talk to any one back home who may be 2/3 seasons ahead), it doesn't matter in the end - you'll eventually get beyond the point where you were back home. In most cases you can switch the language to English, anyway.
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I think this idea has already been poo-poohed in subsequent replies.
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Forum replies. Thats all the proof I need.

So SF has absolutly no influence from the bundersrat about which news they are allowed to report. Hmmm, SF might be the first in the world to accomplish that. And considering how controlled this place is (and how the bundersrat have their hands in literally everything) I doubt it. Free media in Switzerland, I just dont buy it.

But then again this thread is about programms and not media. I will go home now.
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Old 16.12.2010, 14:28
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Forum replies. Thats all the proof I need.

So SF has absolutly no influence from the bundersrat about which news they are allowed to report. Hmmm, SF might be the first in the world to accomplish that. And considering how controlled this place is (and how the bundersrat have their hands in literally everything) I doubt it. Free media in Switzerland, I just dont buy it.

But then again this thread is about programms and not media. I will go home now.
And your alternative is a private sector, because the great US channels have proven to be completely immune against any form of political intervention...

I fully agree that there can never be a 100% free media, just as there can never be a completely unbiased reporter. The trick is to get as close as possible to an ideal situation. From the media I watch, the SF, ARD/ZDF and the BBC are the best: They deliver news no question how "unpopular" they might be - think for example the FIFA corruption on the BBC ruining the UK application for the world cup - and they are all state owned. "They are run by the Bundesrat" is just wrong... it might be the case in Italy, but not here...
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And your alternative is a private sector, because the great US channels have proven to be completely immune against any form of political intervention...

I fully agree that there can never be a 100% free media, just as there can never be a completely unbiased reporter. The trick is to get as close as possible to an ideal situation. From the media I watch, the SF, ARD/ZDF and the BBC are the best: They deliver news no question how "unpopular" they might be - think for example the FIFA corruption on the BBC ruining the UK application for the world cup - and they are all state owned. "They are run by the Bundesrat" is just wrong... it might be the case in Italy, but not here...

The U.S channels are the worst. Just look at Fox "news" . I will say that SF does give the news in a straight forward way without any scare tatics, over hyping, or just flat out lying (fox news) But in a nation of secrecy you cant tell me that if an SF reporter where to "dig up serious dirt" on a private bank, corrupted bundersrat official etc, that they would air that story? They might, but not until it was safe to do so. I.E the rumors have been spreading like wild fire. They are very reluctant to air anything that might tarnish the Swiss image.
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