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The issue is I don't know he has the right.
Now you know: he doesn't. As someone mentioned, the Police probably won't be very happy about their little excursion to Interdiscount - but I doubt they'll be pissed at you.
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Old 06.01.2011, 22:54
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had a similar experience at Mediamarkt in Basel. When I left the store without buying anything, one of the lane-alarms went off (probably not mine, but nobody bothered checking). I was stopped by some 6 foot security bimbo (at least I believe he was the official security guy, as he wasn't wearing a uniform or a name-tag). He told me to follow him into some back room. There, he first told me to empty my bag. I did - he found nothing. Than he told me to empty my pockets. Nothing again. Than that son of a bitch actually gave me a pat-down. After he, again, found nothing (not to my surprise, of course), he simply shoved me out of the door, without apologizing.

needless to say, I wrote to the Mediamarkt's German mother company and threatened them to initiate legal action (after I had already called my law insurance company's lawyer - who told me that those security guys don't have any right to check you at all and that one should always call the police if they want to check your bags). In the end, I got an official apology from the company and gift-certificate. I also noticed a couple days later that the security guy had been replaced with someone else.

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Jeepers, padding you down? I don't think any security guard of a shop is allowed to do that,he doesn't have the authority to put a finger on you.

In that case i would call the police and file a complaint for sexual harassment.
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Jeepers, padding you down? I don't think any security guard of a shop is allowed to do that,he doesn't have the authority to put a finger on you.

In that case i would call the police and file a complaint for sexual harassment.
The only reason why I didn't insist on calling the police was that my train left at 4:33 and it was 4:25 when the whole thing happened.
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The only reason why I didn't insist on calling the police was that my train left at 4:33 and it was 4:25 when the whole thing happened.
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Old 06.01.2011, 23:03
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had a similar experience at Mediamarkt in Basel. When I left the store without buying anything, one of the lane-alarms went off (probably not mine, but nobody bothered checking). I was stopped by some 6 foot security bimbo (at least I believe he was the official security guy, as he wasn't wearing a uniform or a name-tag). He told me to follow him into some back room. There, he first told me to empty my bag. I did - he found nothing. Than he told me to empty my pockets. Nothing again. Than that son of a bitch actually gave me a pat-down. After he, again, found nothing (not to my surprise, of course), he simply shoved me out of the door, without apologizing.

needless to say, I wrote to the Mediamarkt's German mother company and threatened them to initiate legal action (after I had already called my law insurance company's lawyer - who told me that those security guys don't have any right to check you at all and that one should always call the police if they want to check your bags). In the end, I got an official apology from the company and a gift-certificate. I also noticed a couple days later that the security guy had been replaced with someone else.

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Compared to your experience and Kamarate, mine is really nothing. Simply Mistake caused by my ignorance... I feel safe again....
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Old 06.01.2011, 23:04
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So, man, please tell me, do they really have the right to check my bag? What will you do if your bag is checked?
Mate, for me this is 'common practice' for any shop.

Even the check out chicks at the supermarket in Oz reserve the right to check your bags.

The thing is, there are bad people who do bad things.... like steal.

So if you've done nothing wrong, and you've got nothing to hide..... relax. It's not personal.

If this hasn't happened to you before, then I can understand the invasion of your personal space, and for this I can sympathise with you, however this is the world we live in now.

If you're a decent bloke (buying gifts for your oldies etc.) then you shouldn't really have too much to worry about.
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Compared to your experience and Kamarate, mine is really nothing. Simply Mistake caused by my ignorance... I feel safe again....
That's good to hear. Next time you must go out accompanied by an adult.
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Old 06.01.2011, 23:08
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That's nothing. I got a cavity search at Ochsner Sport the other day and all they found was a nickel (which was mine!). I got over it and I'm sure you will as well.
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Today I went to Bel air city in Geneva to buy presents for my family, as I am going home this month. I bought a bag for my mom and packed it in another bag. I was shopping happily. Then I went into the Interdiscount XXL. I was wondering around, trying to find a multitool for my dad, and a kettle for myself. Unfortunately I didn't find anything good, so I was leaving. At the door the security man stopped me and asked first in french and then in english "can you open your bad please?". I am a little angry, and asked if he checked everyone, in the proper way I think. Then he said "no english" and asked in english again if I can open my bag. I feel a little sorry because I didn't buy anything in the shop so I opened my bag and let the guy checked it. There was no sorry, or a kind smile. After the checking I asked again if he will check the bag of the others, he said (exactly) "I said no speaking english". The I left rudely without saying another word.

I have been in Geneva for three months. I feel great about the city and local culture. I am convincing my wife what a great place it is, although we have to live on a tight budget. I didnt feel any discrimination of skin colors, etc. Now, I don't know how to explain to my wife that my bag is checked. I don't know if I will go to that Interdiscount again. I don't even know if I will still go shopping carrying a bag again. I don't feel safe here any more. I got a lot of help in this forum since I came to suisse. So, man, please tell me, do they really have the right to check my bag? What will you do if your bag is checked?

You sound so dramatic I just don't understand. It's not a big deal, don't be so vain that you think the security guard was only thinking about you. They are protecting us and the shop and even you from people making somewhere unsafe.
You need to take it like a policeman, who moniters what we all do on the street. They're just looking out for us and making sure everything is safe.
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Old 06.01.2011, 23:14
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You sound so dramatic I just don't understand. It's not a big deal, don't be so vain that you think the security guard was only thinking about you. They are protecting us and the shop and even you from people making somewhere unsafe.
You need to take it like a policeman, who moniters what we all do on the street. They're just looking out for us and making sure everything is safe.
That is the issue, they are not policeman.

Some think and act like one doing things only officials are allowed to do , i see them as frustrated people who just get off stopping people for no reason.

It does not give them the right to be rude to customers or invasive in anyway.

Mind you not all of them are bad,i have great respect for security guards standing around in and outside in all weather conditions..but like in every job, some of them are just

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That is the issue, they are not policeman.

Some think and act like one doing things only officials are allowed to do , i see them as frustrated people who just get off stopping people for no reason.

It does not give them the right to be rude to customers or invasive in anyway.

Mind you them are bad,i have no great respect for security guards standing around in and outside in all weather conditions..all of them are just ts
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Old 06.01.2011, 23:18
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That is the issue, they are not policeman.

Some think and act like one doing things only officials are allowed to do , i see them as frustrated people who just get off stopping people for no reason.

It does not give them the right to be rude to customers or invasive in anyway.

Mind you not all of them are bad,i have great respect for security guards standing around in and outside in all weather conditions..but like in every job, some of them are just

You're right Joey. I know how people can be when they are wearing a uniform. They can be really rude and obnoxious. They are also really rude in Drinks of The World, and can be mean and ask for ID and stuff unnescersarily when they hear you speaking English.
Its just a part of life.
I guess the people wearing uniform ( like security guards) are used to being treated like poop all day long so in the end they get fed up and are nasty to anyone.
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You're right Joey. I know how people can be when they are wearing a uniform. They can be really rude and obnoxious. They are also really rude in Drinks of The World, and can be mean and ask for ID and stuff unnescersarily when they hear you speaking English.
Its just a part of life.
I guess the people wearing uniform acting like security guards are poop all day long so in the end they get fed up and are nasty.
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You're right Joey. I know how people can be when they are wearing a uniform. They can be really rude and obnoxious. They are also really rude in Drinks of The World, and can be mean and ask for ID and stuff unnescersarily when they hear you speaking English.
Its just a part of life.
I guess the people wearing uniform ( like security guards) are used to being treated like poop all day long so in the end they get fed up and are nasty to anyone.
Exactly, you know Ireland by the looks on your profile, any shopping centre has a team of security guards to keep them little feckers out.

Every bar has more then one pesky bouncer in uniform standing outside deciding who to let in or out.

All forms or people in uniform that think they stand above the law.

In no way should the security guard have been rude to the OP, or to Kamarate, and Peter his guard had no right to frisk him.

People like them ( the wanna be cop guards ) give the good ones a bad name, and that is a shame..
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Old 06.01.2011, 23:23
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I guess the people wearing uniform ( like security guards) are used to being treated like poop all day long so in the end they get fed up and are nasty to anyone.
Which of course is no excuse! I've done my share of crappy jobs where I've been treated like something sub-human, and have been rude to the appropriate people. However, everyone else got a smily, sterling service. (That sounds a bit rude - it's not supposed to).
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Exactly, you know Ireland by the looks on your profile, any shopping centre has a team of security guards to keep them little feckers out.

Every bar has more then one pesky bouncer in uniform standing outside deciding who to let in or out.

All forms or people in uniform that think they stand above the law.

In now way should the security guard have been rude to the OP, or to Kamarate, and Peter his guard had no right to frisk him.

People like them ( the wanna be cop guards ) give the good ones a bad name, and that is a shame..

Yes they certainly do.

And, with that in mind, Just remember, If any of you put a uniform on, or stand behind a wooden counter be polite. It's like people fighting with a keyboard. Pathetic and unescersary.
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Today I went to Bel air city in Geneva to buy presents for my family, as I am going home this month. I bought a bag for my mom and packed it in another bag. I was shopping happily. Then I went into the Interdiscount XXL. I was wondering around, trying to find a multitool for my dad, and a kettle for myself. Unfortunately I didn't find anything good, so I was leaving. At the door the security man stopped me and asked first in french and then in english "can you open your bad please?". I am a little angry, and asked if he checked everyone, in the proper way I think. Then he said "no english" and asked in english again if I can open my bag. I feel a little sorry because I didn't buy anything in the shop so I opened my bag and let the guy checked it. There was no sorry, or a kind smile. After the checking I asked again if he will check the bag of the others, he said (exactly) "I said no speaking english". The I left rudely without saying another word.

I have been in Geneva for three months. I feel great about the city and local culture. I am convincing my wife what a great place it is, although we have to live on a tight budget. I didnt feel any discrimination of skin colors, etc. Now, I don't know how to explain to my wife that my bag is checked. I don't know if I will go to that Interdiscount again. I don't even know if I will still go shopping carrying a bag again. I don't feel safe here any more. I got a lot of help in this forum since I came to suisse. So, man, please tell me, do they really have the right to check my bag? What will you do if your bag is checked?
Guards of shops, not only in Switzerland, HAVE the right to check your bags. That such guards can be rather dull is not new. The simple answer for him would have been "sorry we just do random checks". Which in fact is the truth.

So, if you are asked to open your bag, do so, but in case it is adviseably tell him "sure you can have a look, but let's move a bit to the side". I had such things in various places over the years, and my relaxed attitude in a few cases lead to a relaxed chat with a guard, AND in a case or two even to such a guard providing me useful local info.

Really no reason for embarassment.
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Guards of shops, not only in Switzerland, HAVE the right to check your bags. That such guards can be rather dull is not new. The simple answer for him would have been "sorry we just do random checks". Which in fact is the truth.

So, if you are asked to open your bag, do so, but in case it is adviseably tell him "sure you can have a look, but let's move a bit to the side". I had such things in various places over the years, and my relaxed attitude in a few cases lead to a relaxed chat with a guard, AND in a case or two even to such a guard providing me useful local info.

Really no reason for embarassment.
The easiest way of course is to offer to leave your 'bags' before you enter the shop, then they won't be as keen to search you on the way out.
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Guards of shops, not only in Switzerland, HAVE the right to check your bags. That such guards can be rather dull is not new. The simple answer for him would have been "sorry we just do random checks". Which in fact is the truth.

So, if you are asked to open your bag, do so, but in case it is adviseably tell him "sure you can have a look, but let's move a bit to the side". I had such things in various places over the years, and my relaxed attitude in a few cases lead to a relaxed chat with a guard, AND in a case or two even to such a guard providing me useful local info.

Really no reason for embarassment.
No, they cannot. And they can only hold you back if they have good cause to suspect that you have stolen something. The mere refusal to open your bag during a routine check does not entitle them to restrain you in any way.
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The easiest way of course is to offer to leave your 'bags' before you enter the shop, then they won't be as keen to search you on the way out.
I always end up locking my bag in, not being able to get it back without help from the infodesk ladies

That is in the electric ones now with a numeric pad and code on it , not the ones with a key..i know how keys work
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