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Old 08.01.2011, 11:56
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Cinema Insolence

Lately, I got very confused because even though when searching on cineman.ch and clicking on English button to obtain the films screened in English, it shows most films screened in German.

So I decided to go to the nearest cinema hall, Arenafilmcity to find out if this change is actually being effectuated.

On arriving the counter and asking the girl if ever some movies would be screened in English, she replied

No, never in English, you guys would have to watch in German like the others?

You guys? The others? wait a minute...I told her there and then that I found her attitude very impudent...She went on saying that I am wasting my time because in other halls it will be the same...

Have u guys realised lately that movies are hardly screened in English or if they are, they are done at the last hrs of the night

Burlesque is in German....damn it...where is the fun?
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Lately, I got very confused because even though when searching on cineman.ch and clicking on English button to obtain the films screened in English, it shows most films screened in German.

So I decided to go to the nearest cinema hall, Arenafilmcity to find out if this change is actually being effectuated.

On arriving the counter and asking the girl if ever some movies would be screened in English, she replied

No, never in English, you guys would have to watch in German like the others?

You guys? The others? wait a minute...I told her there and then that I found her attitude very impudent...She went on saying that I am wasting my time because in other halls it will be the same...

Have u guys realised lately that movies are hardly screened in English or if they are, they are done at the last hrs of the night

Burlesque is in German....damn it...where is the fun?
Yes, I've noticed this too. I believe more tickets are sold for movies in German than English. Since this area is German-speaking, it really does make sense. However, one still can find movies in English. In both Lucerne and Zug, major films are still shown in English with another viewing shown in German. Makes everyone happy.

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Old 08.01.2011, 12:07
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Re: Cinema Insolence

I have also noticed more and more that movies are not being played in their original language like it use to be back in the "old" days. Sihlcity is pretty notorious for this, but capital and corso in seefeld is still sticking to having their movies in original language.

I asked a Swiss person about this once and they told me that the younger generation are too lazy to watch in English and that they rather have it dubbed...from my generation, everyone says dubbing really takes away from the movie...

Outside of childern's movies, I still think that playing movies in original language with subtitles is the way to go...even if I have to source really good foreign films independently or rent so I can pause if needed, since I can not always read the german so fast....this dubbing thing just wants to make me improve my home entertainment system...

shame...I love the cinema!
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Old 08.01.2011, 12:22
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Re: Cinema Insolence

So it means we are screwed

How can I watch BURLESQUE in GERMAN...gggrrrrr
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You guys? The others? wait a minute...I told her there and then that I found her attitude very impudent...
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I asked a Swiss person about this once and they told me that the younger generation are too lazy to watch in English
I'm not sure if you actually used the word "impudent" and if she really understood. For reference, the german word is "frech" (adj) or -e "Frechheit" (n), whereas an appropriate response might be, for instance, "Was für ne Frechheit!" (upturned nose, jolly good storming off optional).

jokes aside, this brand of "everyone else is doing it like this" frankness has been my experience too. I'm generally quite numb to it now
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Old 08.01.2011, 12:36
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Re: Cinema Insolence

Sure I did use the word impudent...and guess she did not understand
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Re: Cinema Insolence

frankwofle, sorry but I can only laugh at anyone who goes into a cinema and calls someone "impudent". Even the title "Cinema insolence" is a bit cringeworthy.

However with regards to the language, some cinemas do have English films more regularly than others... Metropol is one i've been to fairly often. Arena Filmcity also has major films in English most of the time.

To be fair though in England you don't get many films converted to Polish or Hindu, so its not unreasonable for Swiss people to watch it in their native language.
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Old 08.01.2011, 13:04
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Re: Cinema Insolence

@Richdog

I found her attitude impudent...U needed to be there to see her facial and body reaction.
I am not the guy to be really miffed at someone but some petit actions do turn me on.

at least, with a modicum of respect...saying I am sorry, but...blah blah, would have been welcoming

I went later on to Metropol and was well received with further explanations that lately movies would be onwwards from the onset screened in German, just metropol and capitol would screen later on in English.

It is just the anxiety to watch a newly released movie...that excitement...and to find out it is in German in all halls

I am still searching

if anyone knows where BURLESQUE is screened in English, please do let me know
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Old 08.01.2011, 13:17
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Outside of childern's movies, I still think that playing movies in original language with subtitles is the way to go...
But sometimes, there is no original language!

Having a girlfriend who only speaks Italian, we have a lot of movies in Italian. Among them, a lot of spaghetti westerns, and in those, it is clear that all the Italians are speaking Italian, and Clint and the other non-Italians are speaking English (by watching their lips).

It would be cool to get an original version with everyone speaking in their own language!

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Re: Cinema Insolence

What pisses me off is that when they show a movie entirely in German they don't put subtitles in another language. I'm not even asking in English, French or Italian would be enough, since you know, we are in Switzerland... if that means anything at all, which I have learned it does not. I missed out on a Goethe film I was very interested in because of this and there is another one showing right now that I can't also go see.

In my tiny little country, all movies are shown in their original languages with subtitles, except children movies, and even those are shown in their OL in some cinemas. People tend to hate dubbed movies and I am one of them.
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Old 08.01.2011, 13:44
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In my tiny little country, all movies are shown in their original languages with subtitles, except children movies, and even those are shown in their OL in some cinemas.
..in most civilized countries they do that.
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Re: Cinema Insolence

[QUOTE=avita;1062752]What pisses me off is that when they show a movie entirely in German they don't put subtitles in another language

Like resident Evil...i watched it entirely German, hoping that there would be subs in English,, so my friend said. But that was not the case

At least, the English community should be notified about such changes so that some of us can wait to get the DVDs when they are out.

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Old 08.01.2011, 13:59
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...To be fair though in England you don't get many films converted to Polish or Hindu, so its not unreasonable for Swiss people to watch it in their native language.
No-one is asking for Swiss films to be converted to English, or even have English subtitles. (Or have I missed the point and Burlesque's original language is German).

In the UK, foreign language films are usually shown in the original language with English subtitles. It certainly was the case until a few years ago that there was a mixture of original language or dubbed in Basel. Now dubbed seems more prevalant. However, if you keep an eye on the programs, it's rare that a film is only shown dubbed - even if the OL version is shown only for a week.

According to http://www.mybasel.ch/freizeit_kino_programm.cfm Burlesque is in English at Pathé Kuchlin until Wednesday, at 15:45, 18:15, 20:45. www.pathe.ch/basel indicates it's only in German, but often when there are different soundtracks at different times on the same screen, they mark it as German, so you have to ask the staff. Fortunately, in my experience anyway, the staff are helpful and friendly.
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Old 08.01.2011, 14:00
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frankwofle, sorry but I can only laugh at anyone who goes into a cinema and calls someone "impudent". Even the title "Cinema insolence" is a bit cringeworthy.

However with regards to the language, some cinemas do have English films more regularly than others... Metropol is one i've been to fairly often. Arena Filmcity also has major films in English most of the time.

To be fair though in England you don't get many films converted to Polish or Hindu, so its not unreasonable for Swiss people to watch it in their native language.
About " in England you don't get many films converted to Polish or Hindu"; according to the UK film council over 10% of the films released in UK each year are in Hindi.

About " its not unreasonable for Swiss people to watch it in their native language" - agree it is not unreasonable but it is a significant change - all part of the world wide dumbing down process. I know from watching English language films that a lot is lost in the translation to German.
BTW, the younger generation may want to watch films in Dialect but so far as I see with a Google search such translations are very rare.
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Old 08.01.2011, 14:04
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Re: Cinema Insolence

In England they don't show films in other languages. Maybe in London they do but certainly not in the 'burbs'. So I consider myself lucky that here in Zurich I have managed to take my son to see most of the big films to a cinema that is playing in English. If we can't find the film we want then we just have to wait for the dvd and be patient. Luckily in a little while my son will be able to watch the films in german anyhow.

We are not in England, or in a country which has English as a first language, so can we really complain that films are being shown in their own language?

Of course there is no reason for the lady to have appeared rude by the same token. I understand your disappointment but plain fact is we are living in a different country with different languages to our mother tongues so we either learn the language or have greater patience and wait for dvds.
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Old 08.01.2011, 14:28
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What pisses me off is that when they show a movie entirely in German they don't put subtitles in another language
Why should they? Zurich is a German speaking area and Ticino and the Romandie get their own copies...

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At least, the English community should be notified about such changes so that some of us can wait to get the DVDs when they are out.
What changes? There have never been German dubbed movies with English subtitles. Usually movie listings clearly indicate the language(s): D = German, F = French, Edf = English with German and French subtitles.

I personally despise dubbed movies and I don't like the fact that more and more dubbed movies are shown here. If a movie is not shown in the original version I simply don't bother going to the cinema anymore but wait until the movie becomes available on DVD.
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Re: Cinema Insolence

In Fribourg the bigger films are shown in english for a week or two. There used to be a smaller cinema which showed lots of films in english but they shut down recently
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Re: Cinema Insolence

By using cineman.ch or looking in your local newspaper, you'll find plenty of information on which films are shown in "D" and which are in "E/df" (English language with German and French subtitles) in your local area.

The cinemas need to make money like everyone else. It has nothing to do with "dumbing down". It's more about preference of the movie-goers.
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Re: Cinema Insolence

Guys

I went to cineman.ch, I clicked on En for English, there is fr for french and D for Deutsch

If u want u can try

click on En and then click on Zurich, u would realise that most movies in the En sector are in German(G)...that is why I went to ask

Of course there are some in En...

Burlesque is in English so I am pleading that if anyone is doing a search and sees a day and time when Burlesque is screened in English, please do let me know.

www.cineman.ch is the only site I use to check for movie, languages and their respective halls...but this time, En is filled more with G than Eng....
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Re: Cinema Insolence

Yes, I see your problem now. Burlesque is indeed in German only in Zürich and Luzern.

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