Go Back   English Forum Switzerland > Living in Switzerland > Complaints corner  
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #101  
Old 19.01.2011, 22:28
ximix's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: UK (formerly Zurich)
Posts: 2,098
Groaned at 22 Times in 21 Posts
Thanked 2,315 Times in 1,179 Posts
ximix has a reputation beyond reputeximix has a reputation beyond reputeximix has a reputation beyond reputeximix has a reputation beyond reputeximix has a reputation beyond reputeximix has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Should we as non-smokers advise the police ?

Quote:
View Post
You don't have to smoke tobacco with it...
Dang it! What have I been missing all these years under that illusion.
Reply With Quote
  #102  
Old 19.01.2011, 22:32
Nil's Avatar
Nil Nil is offline
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Basel
Posts: 10,356
Groaned at 428 Times in 333 Posts
Thanked 16,045 Times in 6,322 Posts
Nil has a reputation beyond reputeNil has a reputation beyond reputeNil has a reputation beyond reputeNil has a reputation beyond reputeNil has a reputation beyond reputeNil has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Should we as non-smokers advise the police ?

Quote:
View Post
Inbroad, you can groan at everything I write if you wish no matter what the content, it shows what sort of person you are... nothing much else.

Wallis could also have checked a few facts before moaning about "the smell of smoking" in a bar and considering wasting police time with it.
I can see the groan/thanks system here is mainly based on who you like... that makes it meaningless, good of you to improve the Englishforum!!
But you groan a lot yourself...
Reply With Quote
  #103  
Old 19.01.2011, 22:33
Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Dielsdorf ZH
Posts: 155
Groaned at 10 Times in 8 Posts
Thanked 74 Times in 45 Posts
S00ty_0 has become a little unpopular
Re: Should we as non-smokers advise the police ?

Quote:
View Post
Dang it! What have I been missing all these years under that illusion.
Get a pipe, no nicotine...
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank S00ty_0 for this useful post:
  #104  
Old 19.01.2011, 22:34
Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Dielsdorf ZH
Posts: 155
Groaned at 10 Times in 8 Posts
Thanked 74 Times in 45 Posts
S00ty_0 has become a little unpopular
Re: Should we as non-smokers advise the police ?

Quote:
View Post
But you groan a lot yourself...
That was a protest... I can do it too... it still doesn't mean anything in this case!!
Reply With Quote
  #105  
Old 19.01.2011, 22:36
Nil's Avatar
Nil Nil is offline
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Basel
Posts: 10,356
Groaned at 428 Times in 333 Posts
Thanked 16,045 Times in 6,322 Posts
Nil has a reputation beyond reputeNil has a reputation beyond reputeNil has a reputation beyond reputeNil has a reputation beyond reputeNil has a reputation beyond reputeNil has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Should we as non-smokers advise the police ?

Quote:
View Post
That was a protest... I can do it too... it still doesn't mean anything in this case!!
Depends... it made your little speech about groaners of this forum totally pointless and discredited it...

Just my point of view, mind you!
Reply With Quote
  #106  
Old 19.01.2011, 22:36
ximix's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: UK (formerly Zurich)
Posts: 2,098
Groaned at 22 Times in 21 Posts
Thanked 2,315 Times in 1,179 Posts
ximix has a reputation beyond reputeximix has a reputation beyond reputeximix has a reputation beyond reputeximix has a reputation beyond reputeximix has a reputation beyond reputeximix has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Should we as non-smokers advise the police ?

Quote:
View Post
Get a pipe, no nicotine...
Man, you sure sound like you need to chillax - BIG TIME. Peace out
Reply With Quote
  #107  
Old 19.01.2011, 22:38
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Should we as non-smokers advise the police ?

Quote:
View Post
A vote is a vote no matter if half the population doesn't agree with it. They voted against the minarets, does it mean that those who don't agree with this ban should pass over the democratic decision of a population and build it anyway because they believe that is was just to kick the minorities?

If we have 10 restaurants in town and one is smoking. I won,t go there and I won't care. But if on 10 restaurants 8 are smoking and 2 aren't, I'll be mad because it means that the law is a joke for too many people.

Do I love the smoking ban, Hell Yeah Baby! It means that I can go in any restaurant and eat my meal without having free smoke flaviour coming with it. Could the ban be more strict? Hell Yeah Baby! I would love to not having to take a deep breath everytime I pass a door because it is full of smokers in front of them. I would love to not have the breath the last puff of the guy who comes into the tram and had to take a last one before coming into the tram and breath it out in our face.

But right now, the law is not there. Hopefully it will happened like it does in most of the other countries that put this ban into place.
About time I started handing out free cigarettes at tram stops and outside bars/restaurants, hell yeah baby?!
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank for this useful post:
  #108  
Old 19.01.2011, 22:38
volodymyr's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: bitog
Posts: 392
Groaned at 6 Times in 4 Posts
Thanked 69 Times in 53 Posts
volodymyr has made some interesting contributions
Re: Should we as non-smokers advice the police ?

Quote:
View Post
No, leave them alone.

What bothers me more is that most smokers who go shopping, now stand in the underground car parks, where there is a danger of igniting petrol vapour, and this has always been illegal.
What bothers me is that they smoke near place where people leave plastic bottles for recycling. So each time you need to throw plastic bottles you have to smoke with them

(I don't smoke)
Reply With Quote
  #109  
Old 19.01.2011, 22:43
Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Dielsdorf ZH
Posts: 155
Groaned at 10 Times in 8 Posts
Thanked 74 Times in 45 Posts
S00ty_0 has become a little unpopular
Re: Should we as non-smokers advise the police ?

Quote:
View Post
Depends... it made your little speech about groaners of this forum totally pointless and discredited it...

Just my point of view, mind you!
Ahh, now I understand, an inappropriate groan discredit's any comments made......(yes that is meant sarcastically... for those that can't understand)

Don't tell me, you think Inbraod has good reason to groan at my every post, even though he/she has the facts wrong about the case Wallis described........
Reply With Quote
  #110  
Old 19.01.2011, 22:48
Nil's Avatar
Nil Nil is offline
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Basel
Posts: 10,356
Groaned at 428 Times in 333 Posts
Thanked 16,045 Times in 6,322 Posts
Nil has a reputation beyond reputeNil has a reputation beyond reputeNil has a reputation beyond reputeNil has a reputation beyond reputeNil has a reputation beyond reputeNil has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Should we as non-smokers advise the police ?

Quote:
View Post
Ahh, now I understand, an inappropriate groan discredit's any comments made......(yes that is meant sarcastically... for those that can't understand)

Don't tell me, you think Inbraod has good reason to groan at my every post, even though he/she has the facts wrong about the case Wallis described........
Dude, More than the half of the groans I own was without a good reason... Plenty of them were from people who got ban...

Now don't turn your anger on me. I gave you my opinion as an outsider who really enjoyed this cat fight! All what I am saying is that yes he groan at you and you groan at him back as protest. For that, it doesn't make you better than him. And to write a message about groaners of this forum when you've been just doing that is pointless.

That's all!
Reply With Quote
  #111  
Old 19.01.2011, 22:51
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Should we as non-smokers advise the police ?

Quote:
View Post
Good point!
I wonder how many of the (moaning)non-smokers are also non-drivers because of the pollution it causes for everyone......
Dunno I'd guess 75 odd percent of the population couldn't give a shit about asthmatics after they turn the key..
Reply With Quote
  #112  
Old 19.01.2011, 22:52
The Real Stig's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Low tax canton
Posts: 474
Groaned at 11 Times in 6 Posts
Thanked 638 Times in 265 Posts
The Real Stig has a reputation beyond reputeThe Real Stig has a reputation beyond reputeThe Real Stig has a reputation beyond reputeThe Real Stig has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Should we as non-smokers advise the police ?

Geez... This thread really took a u-turn didn't it. Now we're kicking each others butt. I think if there are any more groans then I'll have to go out to get a couple of signatures to pass a law to shut ya'll down!
Reply With Quote
The following 3 users would like to thank The Real Stig for this useful post:
  #113  
Old 19.01.2011, 22:54
Nil's Avatar
Nil Nil is offline
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Basel
Posts: 10,356
Groaned at 428 Times in 333 Posts
Thanked 16,045 Times in 6,322 Posts
Nil has a reputation beyond reputeNil has a reputation beyond reputeNil has a reputation beyond reputeNil has a reputation beyond reputeNil has a reputation beyond reputeNil has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Should we as non-smokers advise the police ?

Quote:
View Post
Dunno I'd guess 75 odd percent of the population couldn't give a shit about asthmatics after they turn the key..
If only it was the cars that give asthmatics bad time. I am having much more crises around smokers, chimical products and pollen than cars.
Reply With Quote
  #114  
Old 19.01.2011, 22:58
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Should we as non-smokers advise the police ?

Quote:
View Post
Dude, More than the half of the groans I own was without a good reason... Plenty of them were from people who got ban...

Now don't turn your anger on me. I gave you my opinion as an outsider who really enjoyed this cat fight! All what I am saying is that yes he groan at you and you groan at him back as protest. For that, it doesn't make you better than him. And to write a message about groaners of this forum when you've been just doing that is pointless.

That's all!
Dude? Not really sure about that. why should you intrepret others groans as "without good reason" surely they are a intrepretation of a individuals thoughts. This means to me that surely perhaps you have views which really upset or strike a feeling with people that can only be described as negative, which in my book = a groan

And it's "who received a ban" or "who got banned"... not ban, and he "groaned" at you...

Please don't threaten other users with the notion that if they disagree with someone on this forum they will be banned...It shows a lack of understanding of the real foundation of this forums intentions and also a disregard for other peoples opinions no matter how right or wrong.

Yup I'm enjoying this cat fight but I've been here before check out the 50 odd page thread on the same subject.

BTW you just lost.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank for this useful post:
  #115  
Old 19.01.2011, 23:01
Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Dielsdorf ZH
Posts: 155
Groaned at 10 Times in 8 Posts
Thanked 74 Times in 45 Posts
S00ty_0 has become a little unpopular
Re: Should we as non-smokers advise the police ?

Quote:
View Post
Dude, More than the half of the groans I own was without a good reason... Plenty of them were from people who got ban...

Now don't turn your anger on me. I gave you my opinion as an outsider who really enjoyed this cat fight! All what I am saying is that yes he groan at you and you groan at him back as protest. For that, it doesn't make you better than him. And to write a message about groaners of this forum when you've been just doing that is pointless.

That's all!
Making the point that I can also groan without reason has a point, he had no real reason!
And for anyone to find what I said "discredited" by the incident and from then on being incapable of thinking about it has a serious problem....

If anyone thinks that I am not having fun here trying to make people "think" about my point then look at yourselves, that is the only reason you think I might need to "chill"

My basic answer to Wallis. If a non-smoker doesn't like the smell of smoke then leave, if someone is breaking the law then grass them up even if it isn't going to solve your immediate problem.

In my workplace there are about 40 employees, about 30 of them smoke. we are still allowed to smoke at work!!!.... the non-smokers don't really mind because the smokers go into the warehouse to smoke so they say nothing.. it's called tolerance..... Report that to the police Inbroad and Wallis and take notice of how much time of theirs you waste for no good reason!!
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank S00ty_0 for this useful post:
  #116  
Old 19.01.2011, 23:01
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Should we as non-smokers advise the police ?

Quote:
View Post
If only it was the cars that give asthmatics bad time. I am having much more crises around smokers, chimical products and pollen than cars.
Are you Asthmatic or a qualified Doctor? If not keep your speculation to yourself.

I know if I go to London/Zurich or the mountains I know where I breathe easier and there's no amount of cleaning products or flowers that cause that.

Secondly pollen is seasonal...
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank for this useful post:
  #117  
Old 19.01.2011, 23:09
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Should we as non-smokers advise the police ?

Maybe calling the police is a bit harsh but you could try talking to the person responsible and tell them that you are a regular and that there is the smoking ban and you would appreciate them following it?
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank for this useful post:
  #118  
Old 19.01.2011, 23:09
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Should we as non-smokers advise the police ?

Quote:
View Post
the smokers go into the warehouse to smoke so they say nothing.. it's called tolerance.....


This warehouse?
Reply With Quote
  #119  
Old 19.01.2011, 23:10
Nil's Avatar
Nil Nil is offline
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Basel
Posts: 10,356
Groaned at 428 Times in 333 Posts
Thanked 16,045 Times in 6,322 Posts
Nil has a reputation beyond reputeNil has a reputation beyond reputeNil has a reputation beyond reputeNil has a reputation beyond reputeNil has a reputation beyond reputeNil has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Should we as non-smokers advise the police ?

Quote:
View Post
Dude? Not really sure about that. why should you intrepret others groans as "without good reason" surely they are a intrepretation of a individuals thoughts. This means to me that surely perhaps you have views which really upset or strike a feeling with people that can only be described as negative, which in my book = a groan No it was coming from fanatics groaners, the kind who use groan as most of their answers...

And it's "who received a ban" or "who got banned"... not ban, and he "groaned" at you... Thanks for the english lesson, smart ass!

Please don't threaten other users with the notion that if they disagree with someone on this forum they will be banned...It shows a lack of understanding of the real foundation of this forums intentions and also a disregard for other peoples opinions no matter how right or wrong. Nowhere I threaten him or someone to a banning....

Yup I'm enjoying this cat fight but I've been here before check out the 50 odd page thread on the same subject.

BTW you just lost.


Ok, you must smoke some good stuff!



Quote:
View Post
Are you Asthmatic or a qualified Doctor? If not keep your speculation to yourself.

I know if I go to London/Zurich or the mountains I know where I breathe easier and there's no amount of cleaning products or flowers that cause that.

Secondly pollen is seasonal...
I am an heavy asthmatic, and even if I had lungs of steel I will be entitle to what you called ''speculation''.

Hormonal?
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank Nil for this useful post:
  #120  
Old 19.01.2011, 23:14
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Should we as non-smokers advise the police ?

Back to the original problem.

I hate to be obvious about this, but here's the solution to the problem.

Approach the bar staff and say you are a frequent visitor and how much you enjoy your time in their bar. Say that this afternoon you've smelt cigarette smoke and is there anything they could possibly do to sort this out? You are sure that the smokers are sympathetic to people who don't like the smell and they could be stood in a doorway and it's coming back in without them realising.

That should be enough to trigger the bar staffs thoughts into doing something about the problem, they know it's illegal to smoke in the bar, someone has noticed and probably they will do something about it. If they don't leave it to the authorities to deal with it. Their time will come and don't visit the bar again.

Why is it people have lost the ability to be diplomatic, compromise and well generally be nice to others?
Reply With Quote
Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Lazy ba&%ard smokers Shelby Complaints corner 64 03.01.2009 14:54
It's official-smokers are stupid! blueshrimp International affairs/politics 16 12.06.2008 10:27
Parliament prepares last rites for smokers AbFab Daily life 7 02.10.2007 23:59
need advise sophie4real Housing in general 2 05.07.2007 09:24


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 21:09.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2022, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0