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And you post rubbish and can't even get it right... that is ok.... is this how I am to understand "moderation"? I remember -points from you because you didn't understand but wouldn't admit it.... can I expoect more now?
Are you drunk? You seem to be very angry about something.
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You're making all this fuss over a typo?

Bless your cotton socks!

There's another one in there. I'll buy you a Mars Bar if you can find it.

You don't need to buy a mars bar.... there are no other changes that dispute one another..... another mistake?
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You don't need to buy a mars bar.... there are no other changes that dispute one another..... another mistake?
What on earth are you on about?
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Are you drunk? You seem to be very angry about something.
Read my earlier post, I am having fun and not angry about anything....You see it as an "angry" reaction because that is what you recognise it as.... from your own reactions to things written.....
Why can't I write things like this without being "angry"... this is the internet, I don't HAVE to get emotional about what I write here....
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Read my earlier post, I am having fun and not angry about anything....You see it as an "angry" reaction because that is what you recognise it as.... from your own reactions to things written.....
Why can't I write things like this without being "angry"... this is the internet, I don't HAVE to get emotional about what I write here....
Oh, you should. I throw a temper tantrum at what I read on the English Forum at least once an hour. We haven't got an unbroken cup left in the house, and are obliged to drink out of tealight holders.

If you aren't getting angry, you clearly have no verve, and should go and make yourself a cup of Horlicks before you fall asleep at the keyb
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Oh, you should. I throw a temper tantrum at what I read on the English Forum at least once an hour. We haven't got an unbroken cup left in the house, and are obliged to drink out of tealight holders.

If you aren't getting angry, you clearly have no verve, and should go and make yourself a cup of Horlicks before you fall asleep at the keyb
You must have very strange preconceptions of others.... I understand, you don't understand my way of thinking... that must be a "bad thing", especially in Switzerland!!..... punish me if you think you should but don't get insulting, however much "power" you have....
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Old 20.01.2011, 02:03
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Wolli, I thought you were here to learn from us laid-back english folk. We thought you were different from the normal, up-tight swiss. We thought you were one of us!
And if their nationallity don't matter why mention it?

It is to be mentioned as many locals DO care a lot. I in future will go there again in good weather between March and October, when they have their nice seating outside re-opened. And as I like the place and they are nice folks I did not really consider to take action. What I fear however is that one day somebody WILL take action against them, which I would find regrettable. BUT I wanted to explore the opinions around here. Among people who are not prejudiced upto an aggressive extent against the "Yugos".

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I agree with Country Mouse, if you don't fit with the demographic that goes to that particular bar (i.e. Eastern European smokers!!), don't go there. The only cause for concern I see in the fact that the owners of the bar aren't enforcing the smoking ban is that it's an indication that they are lax in other areas as well (such as food safety & general hygiene, staff working conditions, etc.). So it's probably not a good place to be going to anyway.
No, I know the place and am sure that they are NOT lax in other areas. They presumably are lax on smoking because many people from the "Balkans" are excessive smokers and possibly would abstain from the place if the smoking-ban got pushed through in a real way. "Eastern Europeans" from countries like Hungary, Czechia, Slovakia, Poland etc in fact do not smoke more than people from countries like Switzerland, Germany and France.


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If you believe that the law should be respected no matter what the law is, then yes report them to then police. If you just hate smoke, then no, don't. The latter is just selfish, and you should frequent another place. The former is principled, and you should maintain this police-reporting stance no matter what violations you find.
No, you got it. I am not so much on the idea that "the law should be respected" ................................

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..no but for real, I can't stand cigarette smoke..and I believe that if smokers had been a bit more responsible before, that it wouldn't have resulted in an overall ban...but while we're at it, we should ban any public smoking as I believe, that someone else's vice should not directly have an impact on my life and well being. Call the po-po Wolli, the sooner we eradicate these smoking halls, the sooner I won't have to hold my breath when walking through a trainstation.
The point that trainstations, even if closed above and on various sides are considered "open-air" places, is something which clearly went wrong. I alternatively may go there again and again, with a Tshirt on which will go into the washing anyway, just in order to make them feel a bit insecure about my intentions !


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I don't know the details of the law here in Switzerland, but I do know that in Germany you can have a private bar or coffee place and yes it is allowed to smoke there.

You see all the turkish guys in there smoking, playing cards and drinking Raki on sundays afternoon. I don't have a problem with that, I know it is the style of the place, so I'll go somewhere.
You in Switzerland can have a private CLUB where you can allow smoking, BUT then you no longer have the occasional clientele, and also many smokers do not want to go to a club


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Er, I dont think CountryMouse meant to say it that way. At all.



For being the epitome of the Swiss we have been whinging about on EF since its conception

Wolli, you seriously not expecting every bar to be keeping with the smoking regulations are you? There are smaller bars who depend on their regulars to keep afloat and sometimes, they need to be a little lax about the rules. The last thing they need is for a stranger to blow the whistle on them.
Here in the Zurich area some 99% DO keep up with the smoking regulations, and that includes practically 100% of the Turks and Arabs here.


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Er, I dont think CountryMouse meant to say it that way. At all.



For being the epitome of the Swiss we have been whinging about on EF since its conception

Wolli, you seriously not expecting every bar to be keeping with the smoking regulations are you? There are smaller bars who depend on their regulars to keep afloat and sometimes, they need to be a little lax about the rules. The last thing they need is for a stranger to blow the whistle on them.
Here in the Zurich area some 99% DO keep up with the smoking regulations, and that includes practically 100% of the Turks and Arabs here.

Interesting however is a comparison between the USA and Switzerland, not in regard to smoking, but in regard to "fresh air" in restaurants and bars. While the airconditioning thing in the USA often is a bit overdone, many places here in this country apparently have never heard that you can open (existing) windows !


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Old 20.01.2011, 02:19
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Just when you thought that there aren't enough of stupid reasons why the cops are called in CH here is one more.... Hallelujah!

You go OP...Fulfill your God given right in CH and call the Cops on the phantom smokers who created a stink in your favourite pub...Better yet.. I think there should be an initiative by the SVP which shows Eastern Europeans smoking in Pubs and ask whether we want them in our neighbourhoods?? NEIN!!!

What a load of ballonaise!

(Ahh.. needed me a Rant!!)

Why not taking the matter in a more relaxed and more laid-back way ? instead of getting emotional ?
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Old 20.01.2011, 02:31
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He's been on EF long enough to know that you should never disrespect smokers or dogs.

Abusing a beagle is grounds for a lynch party.
I would never disrespect dogs, but I routinely did and do disrespect smokers. And it is always interesting how you can turn usually relaxed people into emotionalists by launching a controversial topic
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Old 20.01.2011, 02:35
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I don't like smoke in bars and restaurants, but reporting it to the police is a bit out of proportion imo. If I'm bothered by smokers in a pub I'd go and ask them to go outside.
Reporting everything to the police is "Bürgerpflicht" here !
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I on many sunny evenings last summer by chance walked beside the lake near Bellevue in Züri. Nice people there always, supposedly a cosmopolitan mix. I never bothered about their nationality and never will. What however surprised me was that the whole place smelled of "herbal tobacco", making it clear that people had been quietly toking during the afternoon ! As I in spite of their quiet habits regard folks there as nice, I did abstain from reporting to the police.

Should I however send some kind of anonymous hint to the police who also walk there every sunny evening?
Their consumption there is well known to the police and not illegal .... some of "them" in fact are plain-clothes policemen !
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And it is in the open air. So why not just show a bit of tolerance in this case

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Old 20.01.2011, 07:39
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No, I am going on the fact that you think you know what you are talking about, if you didn't understand then how do you know so much of the local laws?
"Google translated it for me" is not a good answer.

I do understand them and have met many "behörder" checking if people are smoking in clubs, I know they exist......

If you call the police and say it smells of smoke in the bar you are in but there is nobody actually smoking what do you think they will do?
...and ironically and article on Blick.ch this morning. Some guy got fined 699Chf for smoking in his pub after he closed for the evening. The police came at 2:15am the very same night the owner lit that cigarette. So much for your authorities.

http://www.blick.ch/news/schweiz/wes...r-irrer-164951
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Old 20.01.2011, 10:00
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Anyway, I've got a library book and it's a day overdue - tee hee!
I have a library book and it's several years overdue.

Is it mine yet?

Should I report myself to the police.

Should I just man up and return the book and face the withering look?

I'm waiting for an amnesty so I can return it anonymously.
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Old 20.01.2011, 10:04
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Old 20.01.2011, 10:18
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Nah much more fun to troll you than ignore. Gives the rest of the forum members something to laugh at.
I think you overestimate the effect of your wit.
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Re: Should we as non-smokers advise the police ?

Ooer...it'll be handbags at dawn I'm sure.

I think you need to calm down and have a relaxing cigarette. According to Wolli, you can smoke in 10% of bars in Zürich so you'll have no trouble finding somewhere - provided nobody calls the police.

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You must have very strange preconceptions of others.... I understand, you don't understand my way of thinking... that must be a "bad thing", especially in Switzerland!!..... punish me if you think you should but don't get insulting, however much "power" you have....
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Re: Should we as non-smokers advise the police ?

Wolli, I hereby formally request you to name the bar where the offence has been committed.

As a resident of Switzerland I cannot stand by while a crime is being committed!

I must report it to the police as a matter of civic duty!

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Reporting everything to the police is "Bürgerpflicht" here !
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Old 20.01.2011, 10:56
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I have a library book and it's several years overdue.

Is it mine yet?

Should I report myself to the police.

Should I just man up and return the book and face the withering look?

I'm waiting for an amnesty so I can return it anonymously.
You're laughing now, but just wait 'til you have to renew your Auslanderausweis*...

*assuming it is from a Swiss library!
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You must have very strange preconceptions of others.... I understand, you don't understand my way of thinking... that must be a "bad thing", especially in Switzerland!!..... punish me if you think you should but don't get insulting, however much "power" you have....
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Wolli, I hereby formally request you to name the bar where the offence has been committed.

As a resident of Switzerland I cannot stand by while a crime is being committed!

I must report it to the police as a matter of civic duty!

Cheers,
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If he doesn't provide the info you will simply have to report Wolli to the police.
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