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Old 03.02.2011, 14:29
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The police may also not look kindly in accepting what basically amounts to bribery.
Ha Ha.... funny, Lawyers call it an "out of court settlement".


I reckon a swift grand in your back pocket, and an appology is about as good as it's going to get.

If that's enough to difuse the situation, then I say "Problem solved". No point in pursuing it further if it's just going to cause more problems.
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Old 03.02.2011, 14:41
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PaddyG, are the police already involved? If so one thing I would want to be sure of is that they would not pursue this regardless of whether you want to. I am not clued up on the system here but in some countries the police will prosecute even if the victim doesn't want them to. This could end up with nasty repercussions for you from him and his lady (as if you can call her that). The police may also not look kindly in accepting what basically amounts to bribery.
Nope, didn't go to the police, as I didn't think there was any chance of identifying her. I'm shocked this guy came forward at all in fact.
As Bill says, a swift grand in the pocket, a handshake and an apology will suffice.
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Old 03.02.2011, 14:44
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PaddyG, are the police already involved? If so one thing I would want to be sure of is that they would not pursue this regardless of whether you want to. I am not clued up on the system here but in some countries the police will prosecute even if the victim doesn't want them to. This could end up with nasty repercussions for you from him and his lady (as if you can call her that). The police may also not look kindly in accepting what basically amounts to bribery.
It depends on the canton and the city, also there would have to be witnesses to the crime (already a week ago) willing to give a statement, Dr's statements, photographs taken at the time, etc.. If whoever is willing to prosecute and there is a judgement in PaddyG's favour, the best one can hope for is part of the hospital costs will be paid for and maybe the guilty party will get a proverbial spanking.

Take the grand in cash, if still offered, but watch your back Paddy... .

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Old 03.02.2011, 14:46
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Nope, didn't go to the police, as I didn't think there was any chance of identifying her. I'm shocked this guy came forward at all in fact.
As Bill says, a swift grand in the pocket, a handshake and an apology will suffice.
Respect for the guy! He could have run and you would never hear from him. But he came (maybe out of fear to be in trouble with the police) and take the chance. It is risky, you could decide to go to the police and put him in trouble.
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Old 03.02.2011, 14:50
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I agree with the general consensus then...pocket the cash Paddy
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I personally think that all agressive behaviour associated with any sort of drug* use is just the outburst influenced by a person's mental state.
(*I say 'DRUG' in general reference to both alcohol and other illicit substances)

These same people then blame alcohol and drugs on their socially behavioural problems as a quick fix "band-aid" solution to something more sinister. This is why seemingly nice people just lose their shit sometimes.
Public acceptance of this is just the scapegoat to provide a "One size fits all" solution rather than the impossible task of tackling the real issues behind each individual.



If alcohol and drugs are the root of the problem, why most people can consume them (specifically alcohol) in peace and remain fairly sociable?
(granted that more illicit substances exagerate the same effect)



If you are aggressive when you drink, take your time to think about what triggered the attack and either talk about your issues with someone you trust, or go and get some help.
Whatever you do, don't bottle it up and make the problem worse.

Drugs are rarely the problem (although we all do and say some stupid shit sometimes). Mostly people reach for them to mask their issues, and THEN blame the drug.

Nobody likes to drink with people like that.... and making your problem someone elses, isn't cool with me.... your outbursts just escalate problems in an otherwise calm atmosphere.

I say....... Stop blaming the drugs and sort your shit out.

I can drink in peace, so why can't you?
(and I know I say this for most people, further adding proof that alcohol is not the problem).
Completely agree. I was replying to why are people fighting on cocaine/alcohol rather than something else.

I feel some drugs influence and effect people more than others regardless of mental state, a bit of puff or a pill is less destructive than say alcohol and cocaine.

Coke's I still think is a nasty drug and I noticed the change over early 00's when people moved from pills to coke when they went out, suddenly high streets were full of anger and aggressiveness. It's also a selfish "me me me drug"

Then perhaps I'm just a hippy, I've personal experience of most of these and I know how they affect me and my friends. So really i'm talking from the heart. No longer I might add my crazyness is now over.. Well sort of

I would go further and say legalise the lot

No worries nothing taken personally and I enjoy this debate and peoples viewpoints.
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Can you hire a hitman for a grand?
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Old 03.02.2011, 14:55
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Respect for the guy! He could have run and you would never hear from him. But he came (maybe out of fear to be in trouble with the police) and take the chance. It is risky, you could decide to go to the police and put him in trouble.
I'm sure that's pretty much it, he's shit-scared about the consequences (I hope). I don't think going to the police will do anything to be honest, it's over a week ago now, there are no witnesses who can positively identify her, only the crowd she was with.

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You know, this only just occurred to me too, what if he wanted to meet me, just to identify me? I'll arrange to meet him somewhere I'm familiar with and where people know me. I was going to contact him directly, but on 2nd thoughts I'll leave that to my friend (the built-like-a-brick-shithouse Portuguese barman ) to arrange the meeting. I'm a big, fit guy myself, but if this chap has 4 or 5 mates in tow....
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I'd settle for an apology from the girl and a promise that she'll never do what she did again - to anyone.

You never know how many people this guy's had to buy off.....
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Can you hire a hitman for a grand?
Yep. But, don't ask how I know this either.
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Old 03.02.2011, 16:02
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Yep. But, don't ask how I know this either.
a hitman?? you can hire 50 mexicans @ 20 a piece.

(I have 49 cousins)
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Old 03.02.2011, 16:06
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a hitman?? you can hire 50 mexicans @ 20 a piece.

(I have 49 cousins)
Is that 12 year-old hitman still available?
Maybe I could hire him for 2 gobstoppers, a curly-wurly and this week's Beano?
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Old 03.02.2011, 16:08
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Is that 12 year-old hitman still available?
Maybe I could hire him for 2 gobstoppers, a curly-wurly and this week's Beano?
No, he is not for the next 5-10
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a hitman?? you can hire 50 mexicans @ 20 a piece.

(I have 49 cousins)
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Old 03.02.2011, 16:14
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the minimum "bribe" id say the full franchise. in my case 2500chf.
and then file him!
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Lesson learnt...just need to run away....
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Re: Scumbags in pubs

Bloody hell, I had a gun pulled on me ended up with with a broken and dislocated finger, 3 pins in said finger, 4 stitches under my eye, spent 7 days in tremli Spital and nobody offered me a grand, what does a bloke have to do. The joys of running a Pub. Take the money and run PaddyG.
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Old 03.02.2011, 22:40
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He probably got some extra points in sexyness.... you know how girls love a little scar here or there... and when it comes with a bar fight story where the gentleman got involve to save the situation....

I should get back to my shag list....

Hope you are feeling better Paddy!
I got one big scar on my head and 3 teeth missing ,how my chances ?
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Old 03.02.2011, 22:42
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Didn't know this was attractive. I've obviously never lived.
And scumbags frequenting pubs??? Well, I never......
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Old 03.02.2011, 22:47
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And here i thought I was the only one with the dirty mind...

Go back and stand in line Please
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