Obviously it is because the guy got force into it! Not his fault!

Sounds like that guy got dumped, hence the complaining. He probably wouldn't complain if he was the one doing the dumping. He will get over his hurt self, move on. People's hurt pride gets in the way of things, at times.

I think it also gets worse as people grow older.. the frustration of not having accomplished what we wanted.. so as far as I'm concerned, I still take risks , go on adventure and be so grateful that my family has the freedom to do so.

I'm quite a moaning person ( well i'm French so probably moan even more than the Swiss) but have improved a lot thanks to my husband and his relatives who have such a positive thinking attitude. One of my biggest moan here is the weather as I don't like winter and snow. But as my husband would say: there is no need to moan about something you cannot change.. It is so true it just shut me up for a while

See, I moan about not enough snow for skiing ..It puts things into a perspective, it's kinda good we hear eachothers' innocent and harmless moans, many times it's just a figure of speech and does not really mean the world is coming to an end. Pointing out things ain't so bad, if it is not obsessive. What I can't stand is the other extreme, the smile therapy attitude when things are not even least bit ok and everyone and everything is absolutely fabulous and people who are trying to put us down back to earth from our cloud are labeled naysayers and downers. There is a fun book, "Smile or Die" (how positive thinking fooled America & the world) by B. Ehrenreich, it is interesting. I guess it does take one to go through really shite times to know how to moan about things that are moan worthy and not bark at the wrong tree...

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I know what you mean about age & I agree, the way I see (as I have children) is that I slowly begin to have more freedom to do what I want so I see ageing as a positive thing. I've done all the achieving in my life & only care about the income bit.

Another Swiss I know not so well (he's the new boyfriend of wife's sis) was moaning about his job, telling me he was bored with it (he's an insurance salesman). I asked him how long he had been with the company & it turns out to be 22 years but it was strange because he didn't understand why I was surprised when he told me how long. "How long has it been getting you down?" I asked...

Yes, this one:

is my favourite. I find the use of the word "resents" a little over-dramatic!

Still, absolutely everyone is entitled to complain, even about small, insignificant things (see my "drying room thief" thread). Just not all the time. Well, you're entitled, but it won't get you liked!

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...because wealth and happiness are relative!

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And speaking of complaining, again, a few days ago someone on this forum was complaining because he or she got a discount at IKEA and he or she just wanted to pay the full price and didn't wanted a discount.
If I would have discounts on sweets and broccoli, I wouldn't complaint.

Oh, that was one heck of a funny post. I don't think it was about complaining really and if it was, wish there were more people complaining with such a witty twist.

Anyway, there's a tiny borderline here - people complaining about those who complain. What's the difference?

It was in the ''Complaints corner'' so I guess it was a complaint...or wasn't it? Otherwise it would have been in another section of this forum.

If that is addressed to me here is the deal- I am not complaining, I was just saying I was bit surprised reading that post. PS: You are in fact complaining about my post so are doing exactly this: ''people complaining about those who complain.''

People who are spoilt beacuse they have everything are often unhappy because they never experience really working for or achieving anything. As a consequence, they can feel worthless, hence such high rates of depression in wealthy countries.

I agree...

I'd be quite interested to know who these people are who are 'spoilt because they have everything' but have 'never experience really working for or achieving anything'.

I've known some rich people who could buy more or less anything they wanted but they worked pretty hard and achieved a lot too. I don't think they were unhappy but I prefer to be me. Worrying myself sick whether my children would be kidnapped, no private life at all, when you donate something you hear 'well they can afford it' and when you don't 'why don't they?' isn't my idea of fun.

Depression in wealthy countries - perhaps we just hear more about it there. And of course, if you have a good job and see others with a better one...

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I have a lot of admiration for those who worked very hard to achieve what they wanted or dreamed about and for those that tried and tried until they reached their goals and they just didn't wanted to give up. Hard work, perseverence, positive thinking, for some-faith, for some- luck, plus a strong inner power helped them. I know some people like this and they are really nice, affectionate and modest.
But I also know other people, mostly youngsters or between 20-35 yrs old (even 40 yrs old), who still live on their parents/relatives/friends money and they just take and take but they don't do anything by themselves to achieve something on their own. Everything is paid by their parents: studies, holidays, cars, apartments, outings, clothes. I am not saying that it is a bad thing to ask help from your parents or friends when you need it but if all you do is this, then you won't get anywhere, or one day life will hit you so hard that you will realise you have to do something about your life and do something on your own.

Please, don't take it personally. I was just wondering if we can consider it as a complaint when we don't agree with complaints... just a thought that came along.

Switzerland is one of those rare places where one can feel at times extremely happy because we have what we have and sometimes totally depressed because we miss what we don't have. For me, it is just purgatory to forget the bad episodes from the past and invoke only the good ones. Why I call it, because it is a temporary heaven. I don't see myself living here forever. I miss true social life, reality of life, struggle, normality. I hate comfort zone this place offers. It makes you vulnerable and succumb to melancholy. I need to get my life back and that's why I complain. When I emarge from this bubble under the clouds I will be stronger to face the reality of the new world. Slowly preparing for the flight....

Btw, I hate to complain and people who complain... Call me cynical

I'm savvy kind of person but give me a true, non superficial and friendly smile on your face and mean it, I will be grateful endlessly.

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He can't. It's a hormonal thing. While one part of the brain might be trying to rationalise with a "get on with it" attitude, another part is sending out stress hormones of various sorts and various strengths. Getting self centred or a bit depressed is probably the least of the possibilities potentially being unconsciously triggered in your friend at the moment.

I feel we all have a very decent life here in CH, and all we have to do is be happy with it! It's hard to imagine a better place to settle and feel at home, happy about your situation. Where could it be more comfortable? Or it's a point of view and what I see as being perfect is hell for other people...

Are you sure about that?