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Old 01.02.2011, 15:41
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Re: Why can't people just be happy with a good job & a decent life here?

It is funny that in a couple of threads people have been talking about how chivalry and morals are gone. Well, it is up to individuals to bring it back right? One man or woman's actions can change the world for the better, right?
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Re: Why can't people just be happy with a good job & a decent life here?

Dear Collin - why don't you just address me directly as your post is obviously a reference to my post over on the thread about men and women and here.

Yes - I am doing my bit to change things. I have a 9 year old son, and he stands up, offers his seat to old people as a matter of course. I ask him to help me around the house. If he's walking with me he always offers to help with a bag. So, I am doing my bit to change that - as you pointed out.

However, it's not so easy to change the mind of a man in his 40's who has other beliefs about carrying bags or helping out a women.

Wonderful that you've offered help to women struggling with bags. it still doesn't change my experience that here in CH - the men who usually help are of Southern European/Arabic origin.

Most of the locals here just sit and look the other way. I help and act when I can - have (with my son) taken a frail old lady and travelled with her on an entirely different tram to help her get to her destination. So hope that answers your question.
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Old 01.02.2011, 16:08
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Dear Collin - why don't you just address me directly as your post is obviously a reference to my post over on the thread about men and women and here.
Not really directed at you personally at all Stephanie.

I really do believe that all people just need to step up and make the difference themselves, myself included. It is up to the individuals.

I firmly believe that it is not the country/society that defines the person but the person that makes the country/society.
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It seems there are often women on the trams with prams (lol?) who successfully depend on people to help them lower it to the curb at their stop. Invariably someone helps. I never noticed the race/ethnical background of the helpee cause i don't see race, bro.
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i don't see race, bro.
Anyone fancy a game of "spot the middle class white boy"?
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Old 01.02.2011, 16:24
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It seems there are often women on the trams with prams (lol?) who successfully depend on people to help them lower it to the curb at their stop. Invariably someone helps. I never noticed the race/ethnical background of the helpee cause i don't see race, bro.
Hmmmm....I think to sum it up, when I was trucking the stroller around, it seemed to me it was mainly people of foreign origin or tourist who would jump up and help, as if it was their civic duty. I felt the locals would at times too, but one had to mainly ask them. Which is ok. It's the one that are helpful without the incentive, that teach the public. I was grateful, no matter who helped.
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Old 01.02.2011, 16:26
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Re: Why can't people just be happy with a good job & a decent life here?

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It's you, isn't it! You pretend to be working class in order to hide the truth but I can see straight through you.

What's my prize?
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It's you, isn't it! You pretend to be working class in order to hide the truth but I can see straight through you.
Oi! You cheeky bugger! I've been to University and everything!

There's nothing working class about me.
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Old 01.02.2011, 16:27
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It's you, isn't it! You pretend to be working class in order to hide the truth but I can see straight through you.

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He even makes himself eat the rinds to be authentic
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He even makes himself eat the rinds to be authentic
You think I get a choice in the matter?
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Old 01.02.2011, 16:40
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Re: Why can't people just be happy with a good job & a decent life here?

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I thought it was a weird british thing to do, not yank. Like, letting some gooey thing drenched in alcohol sit and wait in pantry for xmas, eat garbage of cheese (btw, I am kidding, but seriously, molds are giant toxins, stomach and gut irritants), etc etc.

I'm still getting used to what the upper class frogs are eating, so never mind my bollox...

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molds are giant toxins, stomach and gut irritants
Except when they come in Stilton, Blue Monday or the Kilt Lifter...

Oops... we've gone a bit off topic.

Er, yes. As long as there is cheese to go along with the good job and decent life, then what else does a man want? &c.
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Old 01.02.2011, 16:47
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Re: Why can't people just be happy with a good job & a decent life here?

And, as my home land saying goes, all men think through their stomachs.

Poor people back home eat dirt. I haven't seen so many people here eat dirt. Food is such a high quality here, one can't even buy anything else.
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It seems there are often women on the trams with prams (lol?) who successfully depend on people to help them lower it to the curb at their stop. Invariably someone helps. I never noticed the race/ethnical background of the helpee cause i don't see race, bro.
Still showing all the signs of recently arriving then? Not 'it seems' but there are many women with prams on the tram (bro) & generally, a lift is hard to come by, for men too with prams on trams. Noticed that as well?
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Old 02.02.2011, 09:30
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I thought it was a weird british thing to do, not yank. Like, letting some gooey thing drenched in alcohol sit and wait in pantry for xmas, eat garbage of cheese (btw, I am kidding, but seriously, molds are giant toxins, stomach and gut irritants), etc etc.

I'm still getting used to what the upper class frogs are eating, so never mind my bollox...

Now THAT's the kind of cheese we LOVE!

(and I have far worse in my fridge)

And mold on cheese is ALWAYS edible!

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Old 02.02.2011, 14:01
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Now THAT's the kind of cheese we LOVE!

(and I have far worse in my fridge)

And mold on cheese is ALWAYS edible!

Tom
"Thanks" for reposting that horrid nightmare photo, I was trying to forget it. There is mold and mold, you know. It's not all just penicillin. Mold toxins are actually one of the worst carcinogens, if one is exposed a lot, I think.

I am more fan of smoked meat, since there is less chance of going moldy. But that is unhealthy too...Let's not hijack, though. Those cheeses are expensive, so, no we ain't poor here, are we. I am going to go and have a feast on pepperoni.
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Old 03.02.2011, 07:50
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"Thanks" for reposting that horrid nightmare photo, I was trying to forget it.
You're welcome!

Here's one from my fridge:



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Re: Why can't people just be happy with a good job & a decent life here?

We live in 8032 ZH which is regarded as a "swiss" area overall. when we use the trams & buses we find the people very helpfull re helping onloading prams, shopping etc & also people vacating seats for my kids, have been here 2 years & cant say 1 bad thing about the people regarding this issue.
I do bear in mind that i come from the UK, which is probably the child unfriendly place in the western world in every aspect.
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Old 03.02.2011, 10:58
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You're welcome!

Here's one from my fridge:



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If the pic was taken 2008 I wonder what it looks like now...

I am very happy with my life today, we did some love poerty with my kids in the class, how springy and exciting...
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