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Old 26.01.2011, 09:29
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Why can't people just be happy with a good job & a decent life here?

Getting annoyed today at people here in Switzerland who are always moaning or going on about themselves because they are unhappy.

Some of us have to fight for a living & in the process sometimes our families (& kids obviously) have to put up with our bad moods when things don't go our way.

I have a Swiss mate who has been going on about splitting up with his girlfriend for the last two months & finally (in another call where he starts going on about it) I told him to get the f**k over himself & concentrate on keeping his job.

I will apologize in advance if this thread annoys anyone, after the last thread I started where I went on about my financial situation I realised after a week of looking for a 'proper' job it probably won't happen so I just have to go on with the way things are & thats the way it is & I won't be negative about it.

I just can't understand why life could be so unfulling here if you are secure & have a good job.
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Old 26.01.2011, 09:36
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Re: Why can't people just be happy with a good job & a decent life here?

I think that's the key though: "a good job and a decent life." Dunno about you but getting dumped is not my idea of a "decent life" - I'd cut your mate some slack right now. (I'm guessing they'd been together for quite a while?)
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Getting annoyed today at people here in Switzerland who are always moaning or going on about themselves because they are unhappy.

I just can't understand why life could be so unfulling here if you are secure & have a good job.
It is either their rather sick hobby, to constantly complain you know,
or people feel like self flagellation is noble,
or some wicked force out there forces them to live in a place they don't want, have a gf/bf they don't want, take on a job they don't want.

Feeling good seems to be like finding a treasure one doesn't deserve to find.
It can't get weirder than that that's for sure.
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I think that's the key though: "a good job and a decent life." Dunno about you but getting dumped is not my idea of a "decent life" - I'd cut your mate some slack right now. (I'm guessing they'd been together for quite a while?)
Yeah OK they were & I would cut some slack as you put it but... like quite a few Swiss 'friends' they never want to listen to anyone else's problems, always theirs are worst. It's not that I am unsympathetic but if those I know keep going on about themselves in that way then it will inevitably affect my mood too & I don't need that.

I mean the guy has a flat his parents bought him (no rent), likes his job (& has a good one) & he's not exactly a shrek lookalike, no, get the f**k over it & move on.
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He just wrote his Skype mood as: Leben heisst für mich, mehr Träume in meiner Seele zu haben als Realität zerstören kann.. FFS, life goes on.
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I mean the guy has a flat his parents bought him (no rent), likes his job (& has a good one) & he's not exactly a shrek lookalike, no, get the f**k over it & move on.
Is he tall? We could go for a lovely "spoilt, unhappy kid" co-dependency.

Why are the Swiss (including myself) often deeply unhappy despite "ticking all the boxes"? Because we never, ever feel good enough. Conversations seem to centre around what you haven't achieved yet, I don't do this myself but I hate social occasions with mainly Swiss because it's always about how you could do better and the next thing you should arrive at. It's exhausting.
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Re: Why can't people just be happy with a good job & a decent life here?

Being content with what I have, not with what I wish I could have is an attitude of gratefulness that rewards me with some inner peace and is also a coping mechanism. This attitude requires training.
If somebody repeatedly complains about their tough life - wherever they live or whatever they do and have - whilst being unwilling to change their situation, it could be that they are not ready. Only the individual themselves can decide when it is time to move on or make a certain change. Personal responsibility. The flip side of the coin is that they are still learning this lesson of gratitude. But as, MathNut wrote: Cut them some slack.

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I think that's the key though: "a good job and a decent life." Dunno about you but getting dumped is not my idea of a "decent life" - I'd cut your mate some slack right now. (I'm guessing they'd been together for quite a while?)
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Yeah OK they were & I would cut some slack as you put it but... like quite a few Swiss 'friends' they never want to listen to anyone else's problems, always theirs are worst. It's not that I am unsympathetic but if those I know keep going on about themselves in that way then it will inevitably affect my mood too & I don't need that.

I mean the guy has a flat his parents bought him (no rent), likes his job (& has a good one) & he's not exactly a shrek lookalike, no, get the f**k over it & move on.
I will send you to my mother for a week.... You'll find those people being amateur in the moaning area!

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Re: Why can't people just be happy with a good job & a decent life here?

I don't have a problem with people having a good old whinge/vent when they need it, but some people are chronic. I agree that this is something intolerable. To give you an example, someone on facebook who has a decent enough job, always telling me about how many friends she has... here's a selection of her statuses:

- is a bit annoyed that there is ANOTHER bank holiday before she can get anything done. The novelty is really wearing off now.

- what's the point in advertising evening classes if you don't answer the phone so that people can enrol?!

- doesn't want the new profile and resents having it forced upon her

- How much carbon monoxide does it take to poison you and if you get it in your system, how do you get rid of it?

- is deeply distressed about the bbc going back on its word and dumping h2g2. What are we supposed to do now?!

She complains about anything and everything, about 95% of what she writes on facebook is complaining about something, and her "positive" posts her things like "has cleaned the bathroom!".

Ugh.
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I will send you to my mother for a week.... You'll find those people being amateur in the moaning area!

You'll be healed! (or in a foul house)
Big LaughI read about all that Nil but (having quite a nice mum) just didn't comment as I have never had to go though that, you deserve praise as generally I think you are a positive person given what you have to put up with.

Actually, I think his girlfriend treated him like shite & he was always looking for her kids at weekends while she went out, all the more reason to move on & appreciate your mates (who rarely moan). His mum is also really nice, personally if I was in the same situation as him I would put it all behind me with a good bout of sleeping around.
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I don't have a problem with people having a good old whinge/vent when they need it, but some people are chronic. I agree that this is something intolerable. To give you an example, someone on facebook who has a decent enough job, always telling me about how many friends she has... here's a selection of her statuses:

- is a bit annoyed that there is ANOTHER bank holiday before she can get anything done. The novelty is really wearing off now.

- what's the point in advertising evening classes if you don't answer the phone so that people can enrol?!

- doesn't want the new profile and resents having it forced upon her

- How much carbon monoxide does it take to poison you and if you get it in your system, how do you get rid of it?

- is deeply distressed about the bbc going back on its word and dumping h2g2. What are we supposed to do now?!

She complains about anything and everything, about 95% of what she writes on facebook is complaining about something, and her "positive" posts her things like "has cleaned the bathroom!".

Ugh.
I had one like that too, Who complained not having money at all! BUT, travel all around the world 5-6 times per year and being on party most of the time....

Or the other one, that I know every single details of her assets. How many cars, house, new TV, when she is in vacation! The perfect person to rub! I know when she is there or not and what I could steal!
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Is he tall? We could go for a lovely "spoilt, unhappy kid" co-dependency.

Why are the Swiss (including myself) often deeply unhappy despite "ticking all the boxes"? Because we never, ever feel good enough. Conversations seem to centre around what you haven't achieved yet, I don't do this myself but I hate social occasions with mainly Swiss because it's always about how you could do better and the next thing you should arrive at. It's exhausting.
Really? I get the feeling that many are quite satisfied with themselves and it's the others who aren't good enough. But in general, I like talking to the Swiss and touching their deepest inner thoughts. It's like watching a flower bloom.
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I told him to get the f**k over himself & concentrate on keeping his job.
I envy the work life balance there...
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......I like talking to the Swiss and touching their deepest inner thoughts. It's like watching a flower bloom.
Very impressive, I never knew the swiss had deep inner thoughts. I figured deep in every swiss there was a hardwired computer or machine brought to you by Apple.
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bah!!! so glad someone else has this complaint as well. i usually try to stay quite zen about the whole thing and not bother too much about other people's complaining but amen brother it can really get to you when it gets to be too much. i agree especially when you and your family are struggling to make a living and get things paid(like you, by the mid of the month we are counting the days till payday) it can really get on the nerves.

i work with people who are never satisfied or even slightly content. honestly, i feel bad for those i work closest with- they are quite the same story all of them. early 20's, single, no kids, financially taken care of by their salaries and their parents forever complaining! first why waste your early 20's being miserable? hahaha. what a waste! but then i try to offer to help them with the work, problems they complain about. yes, i can be nice but mostly it's to shut them up about their problems. they prefer to not take the help and complain .

the thing is that they have no IDEA what difficulty is! it is all relative but i wonder what they would do with real problems in their life, if they can't handle a change in schedule and complain if a meeting is rescheduled for a half hour how are they gonna deal with kids, financial problems, health problems or something worse.

i wonder if never having to really struggle, really test survival or problem solve has made people unable to cope.


ok. thanks for that. needed to vent along with you!
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Really? I get the feeling that many are quite satisfied with themselves and it's the others who aren't good enough.
If they were really happy with themselves, they wouldn't put so much effort into making others feel inadequate. Irrespective of nationality.
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Re: Why can't people just be happy with a good job & a decent life here?

This thread seems to have turned into a thread complaining about people who complain.
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This thread seems to have turned into a thread complaining about people who complain.

I really can't stand such people---they seriously irritate me to no ends!
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I really can't stand such people---they seriously irritate me to no ends!
I see what you did there
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