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colinwheeler 31.01.2011 18:35

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Originally Posted by MusicChick (Post 1087639)
But, I still don't think there is anything reasonable or moderate about addictions, cigs, smoking next to people, in public places.

Don't have to be addicted to smoke cigarettes. Don't need to smoke cigarettes right next to people who don't smoke. That sounds like reasonable behaviour to me?

lost_inbroad 31.01.2011 18:35

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Originally Posted by st2lemans (Post 1087572)
And I don't see what the problem is with smoke.

Tom

..that's alright, you'll see what the problem is in a couple of years. ;)

MusicChick 31.01.2011 18:45

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Originally Posted by colinwheeler (Post 1087655)
Don't have to be addicted to smoke cigarettes. Don't need to smoke cigarettes right next to people who don't smoke. That sounds like reasonable behaviour to me?

I wish I knew one smoker, who is not hooked on them cigarettes. Be it body or mind dependency.

But it seems to me, that it is the dependency that makes people forget that there are others around who might want to live without inhaling poluted air if they themselves chose not to smoke. I think it is unfair to push one's smoke on those.

colinwheeler 31.01.2011 18:59

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Originally Posted by MusicChick (Post 1087671)
I wish I knew one smoker, who is not hooked on them cigarettes.

Both my cousin and flatmate have most probably one or two cigarettes a week or month, sometimes while out in the mountains, sometimes while out for a drink. They are both very considderate about where they smoke and niether are addicted.
Myself, I know I have an addiction but then I keep cutting down so I feel better about it (down to about 2 or 3 a day on most days now and want to make that leap to being able to go days without).

MusicChick 31.01.2011 19:03

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Originally Posted by colinwheeler (Post 1087692)
Both my cousin and flatmate have most probably one or two cigarettes a week or month, sometimes while out in the mountains, sometimes while out for a drink. They are both very considderate about where they smoke and niether are addicted.
Myself, I know I have an addiction but then I keep cutting down so I feel better about it (down to about 2 or 3 a day on most days now and want to make that leap to being able to go days without).

Hey, my hat down, for trying to quit. That's the most difficult phase, to have just a minimum, to get by, but enough to have a really bad conscience for not being able to quit cold turkey, but not enough to satisfy the cravings of a body who wants more.

We are not nagging about some ocassional smokers. Ocassional or not, the minute that person is actually being inconsiderate and poluting right next to somebody who wishes avoid the smell (makes me gag certain times of the day) it does not matter if it's a matter of habbit or just distraction, wanting to be cool, etc etc.

st2lemans 31.01.2011 19:06

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Originally Posted by lost_inbroad (Post 1087656)
you'll see what the problem is in a couple of years. ;)

How so?

Tom

st2lemans 31.01.2011 19:14

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Originally Posted by colinwheeler (Post 1087634)
It is the constant abuse, social stigmatism, bigotry and really fair statements like the one from baboon below. Seriously it winds me up so much I am going to go and have a smoke.:p

Yeah, if I didn't dislike cigarettes so much, I'd light one up as well! :D

I also can't see spend as much for a packet of cigarettes as a decent (but not great) cigar or bottle of wine, or a gallon of gas for the bikes! :eek:

Tom

31.01.2011 19:15

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crikey, I'm on the train and platforms a lot in my life and I have not noticed anything as bad as what the OP is suggesting.

As AbFab said earlier, rejoice that it's improved recently with the reduction of smoking areas.

btw the worst thing about train stations is being barricaded into the train by the ignorant zombies blocking the exit. But that's been done to death as well :)

FCBarca 31.01.2011 20:08

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It will only get better in Suisse wrt smoking in public areas, I am certain of that...Plus, it'll never be as bad as Spain where they are smoking underground all the time - rat in a cage

Nil 31.01.2011 20:12

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Originally Posted by FCBarca (Post 1087778)
It will only get better in Suisse wrt smoking in public areas, I am certain of that...Plus, it'll never be as bad as Spain where they are smoking underground all the time - rat in a cage

It is almost done there too, February the law comes in and everywhere in summer it should be ban.

FCBarca 31.01.2011 20:35

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Originally Posted by Nil (Post 1087786)
It is almost done there too, February the law comes in and everywhere in summer it should be ban.

That's great to hear...Barcelona is one of my favorite places in Europe for visits and the smoking is a big negative for me

SA-V 31.01.2011 21:07

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Originally Posted by mirfield (Post 1087586)
That's 'cos you're not sensitive to smoke. Neither am I - my parents smoked and I spent most of my formative years in the pub.

But some people are. And they're in significant enough numbers that they should be considered.

I am more sensitive to the smell of those people who believe they don't have the need to use deodorant even though you can smell them from meters away... I'd rather inhale all the second hand smoke :msnsick:

adrianlondon 31.01.2011 22:13

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I think it's disgusting that people smoke outdoors, polluting the lovely fresh air.

They should be forced to smoke indoors. However, to ensure they stay alive those places will need to serve food and drink. I'd probably call them restaurants or bars or something similar.

St3jr 31.01.2011 23:36

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I think it's great. It's one of the few things that Europe does way better than the US. I love the attitude the people have when they do it. They just don't care. Love it.

jsherk 01.02.2011 00:29

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Originally Posted by colinwheeler (Post 1087607)
Well, if you come down to Baden and walk around with me I am sure you would withdraw that quite sweeping generalisation, or perhaps you just did not notice the considerate smokers because they were not irritating you?

You may be very considerate and I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, but sadly, not a single day has gone by in the three years that I have been here that I have not been offended by someone lighting up in a tunnel, stairway, ramp or just standing right at the entrance of office buildings, grocery stores, restaurant, etc., etc., etc. or feeling the need to invade my peace and private space by walking up next to me at the bus stop or train station and lighting up...unless of course, I have stayed in my flat all day. It's not an exageration and I think it is sad that I cannot go a day in the public without being assaulted by some smoker. Oh, and before someone jumps me for using the word assaulted, try blowing smoke into a police officer's face and see what happens.

The tens of thousands of cigarette butts on the streets, sidewalks, parking lots, park grounds, playgrounds and traintracks show that the few considerate smokers must be outnumbered 10000/1. Sorry if you don't like my opinion, but hey as the saying goes....opinions are like bumholes, everyone has one and most stink. :D

BTW, I feel it is in bad taste to groan persons expressing their heart felt opinions in the complaints corner. Bottom line is that I genuinely feel that most smokers in CH are inconsiderate. If you don't like it, do something constructive to help others change their opinions or, even better, get your fellow smokers to pay attention to the fact that smoking in crowded areas, directly in front of entrances/exits or practically on top of probable non-smokers is just plain INCONSIDERATE!

And Colin, I would be happy to come to Baden, walk around town have a beer and even hang out with you outside if the need to light one up occurred. Sadly, my fellow EF'r. my personal experience here is that you, your cousin and flatmate are the exception to the rule and one only needs to look down into the traintracks to see the proof.

I wish you the best of luck quitting and thank you for taking the time to quote rather than groan.

i-b-deborah 01.02.2011 09:35

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Normally not bothered, but I did get miffed at the old fool at the zoo yesterday, standing in the in front of the otters (which is technically not indoors, but it most definitely enclosed) smoking a pipe. Shortly there after, one of my charges started to upchuck. Just an unhappy coincidence? Anyway, he p1ssed me off. Rude b@stard!

mirfield 01.02.2011 09:50

Re: Smoking on the train platforms.uughh
 
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Originally Posted by SA-V (Post 1087836)
I am more sensitive to the smell of those people who believe they don't have the need to use deodorant even though you can smell them from meters away... I'd rather inhale all the second hand smoke :msnsick:

I'm not sure that anyone has ever died from second hand BO.

jacek 01.02.2011 09:50

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If smoking on platforms bothers you just use the car. If still not satisfied then hang some air freshner on the window and problem solved. If it still is not good enough - time to use deodorant, if that doesn't help either it is probably about the time to take a shower :D

lost_inbroad 01.02.2011 09:52

Re: Smoking on the train platforms.uughh
 
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Originally Posted by i-b-deborah (Post 1088104)
Normally not bothered, but I did get miffed at the old fool at the zoo yesterday, standing in the in front of the otters (which is technically not indoors, but it most definitely enclosed) smoking a pipe. Shortly after one of my charges started to upchuck. Just an unhappy coincidence? Anyway, he p1ssed me off. Rude b@stard!

I would like to apologize for that. I just bought my new pipe and wanted to try it out. :o

i-b-deborah 01.02.2011 10:03

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Yes I was surprised that you weren't from some former yugoslavian state, but there you go. Next time I shall be calling the National Guard! :msnmad:
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Originally Posted by lost_inbroad (Post 1088120)
I would like to apologize for that. I just bought my new pipe and wanted to try it out. :o



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