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Old 29.10.2019, 13:16
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Re: Smoking on the train platforms.uughh

Swiss is Swiss, either you are or you aren't.

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Old 29.10.2019, 13:18
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Swiss is Swiss, either you are or you aren't.
Not according to Elu (born and bred Swiss I believe). It was her that make the distinction, not me.

Why didn't you groan her and not me if you don't like her distinction?
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Old 29.10.2019, 13:21
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Not according to Elu (born and bred Swiss I believe). It was her that make the distinction, not me.

Why didn't you groan her and not me if you don't like her distinction?
Done!

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Old 29.10.2019, 13:24
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I'm sure the Italian Department for Dodgy Stereotypes will be eternally grateful for that.

I guess I know many more Italians than you do.

Not sure why you found what I wrote derogatory?

In the U.K, people nod to show non-verbal agreement.

In India they do a figure-of-eight motion with the head to indicate various things depending on the severeness of the waggle.
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Old 29.10.2019, 13:29
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Not according to Elu (born and bred Swiss I believe). It was her that make the distinction, not me.

Why didn't you groan her and not me if you don't like her distinction?
Oh you thought I was serious?

Sarcasm emote wasn't enough then??

*him btw
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Old 29.10.2019, 13:29
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Done!

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Old 29.10.2019, 13:30
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I guess I know many more Italians than you do.

Not sure why you found what I wrote derogatory?
It's not, rather it's quite true, pretty much all Italians that I know do it, as do I.

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I guess I know many more Italians than you do.

Not sure why you found what I wrote derogatory?

In the U.K, people nod to show non-verbal agreement.

In India they do a figure-of-eight motion with the head to indicate various things depending on the severeness of the waggle.
Didn't say it was derogatory. It's a stereotype, is it not?

If you think that you have to wave your arms about once you get an Italian passport, that might be classed as derogatory to some. Otherwise, why would you do it?

In any case, I would have thought it would have been easier for you to get Swiss citizenship than Italian. Gives you a vote here, at least.
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Old 29.10.2019, 13:32
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Why do you need these rules if it's just good manners?

In the U.K, I would never have dreamed of making a noise over lunch or on Sunday (cutting the grass etc).
So there are the same rules about noise on sundays?
Wether they Formal/Informal written/unwritten rules doesn't really mater in the end right?
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Old 29.10.2019, 13:38
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So there are the same rules about noise on sundays?
Wether they Formal/Informal written/unwritten rules doesn't really mater in the end right?
I guess it doesn't matter on a practical basis - the end result is the same but the fact that a particular rule/law exists at all does say something about a culture itself.

For example, I do find the necessity of a "Good samaritan" law particularly strange in a civilised society.

Helping people in distress is simply civic duty.
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So there are the same rules about noise on sundays?
Wether they Formal/Informal written/unwritten rules doesn't really mater in the end right?
Yup...

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Q Noisy all-night parties are making my life a misery. Is there anything I can do?

A Events causing excessive noise between 11pm and 7am fall within the remit of the Noise Act 1996 (Environmental Protection Act 1990 in Scotland). This empowers environmental health officers to visit the site of a complaint, measure the noise and, if it exceeds a set level, issue a warning for it to be reduced. If this is not complied with, they can levy an on-the-spot penalty of between 40 and 1,000 for night noise offences. They can also confiscate any noisy equipment.
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If your neighbour is building a house or conservatory, noisy activities need to comply with hours laid out by the Council's Construction Sites Guide: weekdays 8am to 6pm; Saturdays 8am to 1pm; Sundays and Bank holidays no work where noise is audible at the site boundary.
The fines are pretty steep, too. Funny, I'd never googled that before today.
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I guess I know many more Italians than you do.
All of them, apparently.
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Old 29.10.2019, 13:43
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For example, I do find the necessity of a "Good samaritan" law particularly strange in a civilised society.

Helping people in distress is simply civic duty.
Sure, but I'm quite happy that there is an article which states, that I am not legally responsible if I mess something (someone) up while providing first aid after an accident.
I would do my best nonetheless of course.

I don't know how it works in the US though for example. I friend of mine got yelled at (by the victim) because he called an ambulance after an accident.
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I guess it doesn't matter on a practical basis - the end result is the same but the fact that a particular rule/law exists at all does say something about a culture itself.

For example, I do find the necessity of a "Good samaritan" law particularly strange in a civilised society.

Helping people in distress is simply civic duty.
You can extend this way of reasoning to pretty much every law then.

I find the Swiss very helpful in particular situations, don't know why you think otherwise.

On the other hand, if I have to compare the British politeness in shops, restaurants, airport etc with other places' in Europe, it's definitely way above the average IMHO. Though this is just in theory, in practice people can very kind and helpful everywhere.
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If you think that you have to wave your arms about once you get an Italian passport, that might be classed as derogatory to some. Otherwise, why would you do it?
Read what I wrote again.

Anyway, St1lemans agrees with me so it must be so!
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Read what I wrote again.

Anyway, St1lemans agrees with me so it must be so!
So why mention whether or not you would wave your arms around? Why even bring it up?

I'm not sure, in that case, what kind of a point you were trying to make, which appears to be in response to my post about me being Swiss?
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Old 29.10.2019, 13:56
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I find the Swiss very helpful in particular situations, don't know why you think otherwise.
Where did I write that I think otherwise?

I said that I found the law strange and unnecessary.
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Old 29.10.2019, 13:59
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So why mention whether or not you would wave your arms around? Why even bring it up?

I'm not sure, in that case, what kind of a point you were trying to make, which appears to be in response to my post about me being Swiss?
There's even a word for it that Elu brought up. It obviously has some meaning for some people otherwise it wouldn't exist.

I think you know very well what I point was and I'm not going to explain it again.
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...strange and unnecessary.
like the flappy hands and wobbly heads comment?
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Old 29.10.2019, 14:06
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like the flappy hands and wobbly heads comment?
Not at all.

Would you chastise someone if they nodded in agreement? Most societies have some forms of non-verbal communication.

It's accepted that people so it - for heaven's sake it's even written into law here - no rude gesticulations to others when driving for example.

The question I have to ask is why it upset you so much?
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