Nunavut? ....

And Kuujjuaq.

A tad cold at this time of the year but it does help a lot of people to quit smoking when your both nostrils stick together...

The place on your photo IS outdoors, but the following ones

















clearly are NOT outdoors but indoors
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and the perrons at Bahnhof Stadelhofen



are not really outdoors

while THESE stations below were "outdoors"





are/were outdoors beyond doubt

I just heard today that one of the places I reported to the "police district City of Opfikon-Glattbrugg has to rebuild a bit and to establish a decent air-conditioning and the the second one was fined as everybody was smoking when the two agents got in there. I suppose that the worthy chief there will now take care ! And the fire-police of the City of O-G will make yearly controls of all cafés, bars, pubs, and restaurants in regard to safety, fresh-air and smoking facilities.

Fair enough, Zurich HB smells like an old ashtray. Baden on the other hand is okay and most smokers smoke well back from the platform where it does not effect others.
It is a pity that the smokers can't be a little more considderate.

I have always believed that Aargauers were better and more considerate lot than pompous Zürichers, although former are "kak" drivers but don't blow the smoke into your face!

I used to smoke a lot, and while I don't mind train stations so much, it still winds me up when people walk into small bus shelters with their cigarettes and fill the area with smoke, I find that pretty inconsiderate to non-smokers.

Relax ! You would be stared at if you looked like

If you abstain from taking it into your lungs but just enjoy the flavour and then "push" it out, it is far less harmful. AND most of all, you need some time to smoke your sheesha.

Chain-smoking with a sheesha is not really the thing !

And with a sheesha, you can leave it for some minutes and then re-start.

Beside the point that sheesha-smoking encourages a peaceful mood !

I'm a big fun of occasional social shisha smoking with Arabic coffee. We have a small hubbly-bubbly at home but after running out of tobacco my wife has better mood when she doesn't see me smoking it.

Cigars and flavoured tobaccos used responsibly is my once a year treat, provided that I delight in it in cafe full of other likeminded smokers and without affecting non smokers. There kept on topic!

Erm....too much information there, mate.

Cheers,
Nick

And if you do it indoors you can deny them a last cigarette :-)

And...? I happen to think it is a fantastic idea, as many smokers have become so desensitized to the awful smell of smoke that they don't realize just how bad it is for folks who otherwise are never around smoke.

So, if the smell of air freshener makes someone who smells of smoke feel icky, so much the better as THEY are already making it difficult for me to breathe. Turn about is fair play.

I'm already desensitized by aroma of brewing coffe in my office, nevermind being an addict of few cups a day. It's tough life everywhere I go... Either there will be smokers, coffee brewers or in summer time BBQ air polluters. Even if I go on holidays to Venice in spring there will be this distinct foul stink of fish and water from local canals. Its bad out there I'm telling ya....

Only Alps guarantee escape but there again those fertilizers and cowsh.t drive me crazy. Then I decided not to worry anymore. Live and let live (or die)!

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And then there's people smoking pot on the playground next to the Einsiedeln church.

Disgusting stench, I tell ya. And the circumstances were oh so wrong too.

Ummm, I don't smoke, I just hate air-fresheners (and perfume, and cologne).

Tom

Ah, the holy wrath, an eye for an eye, no mommy, he hit me first, revenge, reverse discrimination....
All excellent ways to solve problems no?

Actually, odour polution is a serious part of health risk assessment in environmental issues, health impact, etc. (like light polution, noise, etc) Experts measure toxic part of it, but also how people who are exposed to it assess the odour on a scale: "pleasant, numb to it, considered ok, aggravating, can't stand it, etc".. People I know are in this biz so I know about it, eg. back home if there are fertilizers used too much and people complain, the level of nytrogens, dioxins, etc is measured and people have to be questioned if they consider the regular "cow shite" odour as ok or not. You wouldn't believe there are people who love it, it symbolises health/farming/pure lifestyle/clean air to them, even though it can be, like anything else we sniff too much, really bugging some people. If I remember well, it was the impact on overall wellbeing that banned a couple of very intense fertilizing procedures, back home.

Now, for the coffee smell.......hmmmmmmmm, can't get enough of it. When preggo, I'd gag, but it's so nice.

The air fresheners, are toxic , too, if they are constant (surface cleaners, perfumes as well, people I know specialized in measuring terpens in those, the studies started 15-10yrs ago, even essential oils burners polute, febreeze, blech), nothing healthy about it.

I am just trying to figure out why our lame Migros kettle still smells like burned plastic, when I heat the water in it, 3mo after we bought it. Makes the coffee smell bad, too.

Ok, back to cigs.

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Hmmm, I get annoyed about the smoking here as well, more so than in London. My current theory is that it is more noticeable because the air quality is better. I feel sorry for the younger people who smoke - the impact on their health/etc and it just looks so sad...I briefly tried smoking when I was at the uni and stopped purely because I watched my room mate in 1 year turn into a dermatological case study, with shallow, wrinkly, yellowish skin...Was enough of an incentive to quit!

I thought they banned smoking in bus stops and train stations in swiss....

OK, what's your solution? That doesn't involve the non smoking majority having to breathe in your fumes that is.