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crfesi 31.01.2011 15:44

Smoking on the train platforms.uughh
 
Is it me or can no one else take the smoking here? Why is it allowed to smoke on train platforms while waiting for the train. The smokers aren't even polite smokers. Always have cigarette smoke blown in my face and stuck in my hair. I can't take it anymore. I get caught before I can even get to the warm "non smoking room". It's making me crazy!

Traubert 31.01.2011 16:03

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Originally Posted by crfesi (Post 1087323)
Is it me or can no one else take the smoking here? Why is it allowed to smoke on train platforms while waiting for the train. The smokers aren't even polite smokers. Always have cigarette smoke blown in my face and stuck in my hair. I can't take it anymore. I get caught before I can even get to the warm "non smoking room". It's making me crazy!

Polite smokers? What planet are you from?

Switzerland is like the final bastion for smokers. They love it, everyone smokes as if their lungs were made of leather and pop-rivets. An autopsy would reveal a little 'Swiss Made' label on their windbags.

keymoo 31.01.2011 16:19

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Originally Posted by crfesi (Post 1087323)
Is it me or can no one else take the smoking here? Why is it allowed to smoke on train platforms while waiting for the train. The smokers aren't even polite smokers. Always have cigarette smoke blown in my face and stuck in my hair. I can't take it anymore. I get caught before I can even get to the warm "non smoking room". It's making me crazy!

Eat some smoked salmon and blow in their face.

nigelr 31.01.2011 16:26

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Whatever happened to live and let live? I'm not a smoker (never have been) but find it more tolerable than getting smothered in somebody else's perfume or aftershave whilst on the train.

Have a cigarette and calm down for goodness sake.

memonge 31.01.2011 16:26

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Even I as a smoker agree. They should be locked out doors.

Soixante_neuf 31.01.2011 16:28

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Originally Posted by memonge (Post 1087421)
Even I as a smoker agree. They should be locked out doors.

Isn't a platform outdoors? Its certainly not indoors

Edit: my first groans. I feel emotional.

lost_inbroad 31.01.2011 16:32

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Originally Posted by Soixante_neuf (Post 1087425)
Isn't a platform outdoors? Its certainly not indoors

It' s a shared public space where I as a non smoker should be able to escape the smoke...however this isn't happening, as smokers tend to be ignorants who light it up whenever they can...and this creates a problem for people who value their health.

Guest 31.01.2011 16:33

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Originally Posted by Soixante_neuf (Post 1087425)
Isn't a platform outdoors? Its certainly not indoors

To me it is..
12 years ago I was smoking in the trains, 10 years ago, smoking in the office... 8 years ago in the airplanes, 1 year ago in restaurants, and now not even outside? :msncry:

memonge 31.01.2011 16:34

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Originally Posted by Soixante_neuf (Post 1087425)
Isn't a platform outdoors? Its certainly not indoors


This also proves my point that smokers are dumber then the general population

summerrain 31.01.2011 16:37

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Originally Posted by crfesi (Post 1087323)
Is it me or can no one else take the smoking here? Why is it allowed to smoke on train platforms while waiting for the train. The smokers aren't even polite smokers. Always have cigarette smoke blown in my face and stuck in my hair. I can't take it anymore. I get caught before I can even get to the warm "non smoking room". It's making me crazy!

Calm down. I dont think the smokers intentionally blow smoke in your face. You were just unlucky to be caught in that cloud of smoke haze.

Smoking has already been banned indoors - and as a smoker, I welcome that myself. Sure I concede that some smokers should be more considerate - especially smoking near pregnant women etc but to whinge about outdoor smoke, and getting it caught in your hair, is something that cant be controlled - like farting. You cant control someone's right to fart, and where the smell whiffs to, can you? ;)

And yes, some farts are just as lethal as cigg smoke. :D The only way to eradicate this problem is to ban tobacco altogether, and I really dont see that happening.

Nixi 31.01.2011 16:38

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I think it's only a question of time until they stop smoking in stations here. They have already stopped it in Germany.

Mark75 31.01.2011 16:38

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This morning there was that terrible onion smell in the Intercity all the way from Zurich to Berne. Maybe I should start my own whining thread. :rolleyes:

Swissmountainair 31.01.2011 16:40

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I finally got the hint, recognised the endless negative progression of the popularity of smokers, was savaged with a vicious plethora of insults by a militant little woman in Yosemite national park for daring to smoke a cigarette in such fresh air and gave up in '07. I figure that after a bit more time it will be about as socially acceptable as public masturbation - at least in the non-Swiss parts of the western world.

As a former smoker I sympathise with the feelings of persecution smokers feel. But really, if they can't take the hint or summon the will-power I would greatly appreciate them at least refraining from striking up on a busy railway platform at some god-foresaken hour of a Monday morning when it is still dark and minus temperatures. Just not a healthy way for anyone to start the day.

Nil 31.01.2011 16:45

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Originally Posted by summerrain (Post 1087442)
Smoking has already been banned indoors - and as a smoker, I welcome that myself. Sure I concede that some smokers should be more considerate - especially smoking near pregnant women etc but to whinge about outdoor smoke, and getting it caught in your hair, is something that cant be controlled - like farting. You cant control someone's right to fart, and where the smell whiffs to, can you? ;)

And yes, some farts are just as lethal as cigg smoke. :D The only way to eradicate this problem is to ban tobacco altogether, and I really dont see that happening.

NOOOOOOOO! I thought you were perfect! And there is the horrible truth, you are a smoker! :(

:D


I choose the farting anytime! Fart is healthy, it let the bad stuff going out!

Free the Fart! :D

MusicChick 31.01.2011 16:45

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Originally Posted by nigelr (Post 1087419)
Whatever happened to live and let live?

I think that died with having ashes routinely blown into my baby's face, every single time I was waiting for a train with a buggy. I don't get people who light up 2inches from an infant, who sat next to me on the bench when I was preggo and light up, who come to the playground (!) and smoke while kids play a foot from them. Degu. It did teach me to speed up my local lingo acquisition, having to bitch out smokers from the baby playgrounds. Yes, it is in the open air, no, no smoking should be happening there. It's for kids to play in, not inhale your nastiness and have smog and tar in their hair, on their skin and clothes.

Train platform, same thing. If you can't walk away a few meters on the side of the station, don't smoke. Why would people who have to stand there, waiting for their train, why would they have to walk away from somebody who is hooked on their bad habit. As it is, people have to avoid smokers on the platform, should be the other way round. Poluters.

(Sorry, summerrain, haha, you musician, so you don't count...)

summerrain 31.01.2011 16:49

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Well, petition for these yellow boxes then...

I bet my last rappen that you'll still get complaints.

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_by0jdtTX3E8/Sp...0/IMG_0736.JPG

lost_inbroad 31.01.2011 16:50

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Originally Posted by summerrain (Post 1087463)
Well, petition for these yellow boxes then...

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_by0jdtTX3E8/Sp...0/IMG_0736.JPG

NO! I petition for smokers to be outside of trainstations and away rom bus stops. :mad:

crfesi 31.01.2011 16:54

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I lived in California before coming here and there smoking in a public places has been banned since 1990. That is over 20 years. Therefore, I am frustrated by the ignorance of some people here and sidestream smoke that affects others. I do think smokers should have the right to smoke, just not in public places where it can affect non-smokers, besides myself children and babies. I hope this country follows Germany soon.

MusicChick 31.01.2011 16:55

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Originally Posted by summerrain (Post 1087463)
Well, petition for these yellow boxes then...

I bet my last rappen that you'll still get complaints.

That made me chuckle...

Smoking will die out when it stops being so cool. It's happening, slowly, but it is...I realized how very uncool it was when I was playing, a cig in the corner of my mouth, like a real rockandroller, not only I couldn't see a thing through the smoke, my eyes were tearing like mad and I almost lit my hair on fire. :msnshock::D

jacek 31.01.2011 16:55

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Aren't there indoor smoking lounges at the train stations! I thought that non smoking legistlations have been put in place since May 2010, no?

I really hate inhaling this stinking smoke especially on winter mornings, being a passive smoker is not my choice.

As I look through the windows in my workplace the chimneys are puffing smoke in nearby houses and the grey cloud is forming slowly. Now I can imagine this poisonous deposit in my lungs. Truly awful!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yY7Vm...e_gdata_player

lost_inbroad 31.01.2011 16:56

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Originally Posted by crfesi (Post 1087474)
I hope this country follows Germany soon.

..well, not just Germany..in fact most civilized countries don't allow smoking in public places...but as usual, Switzerland is laging behind once again.

Assassin 31.01.2011 16:56

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Originally Posted by lost_inbroad (Post 1087467)
NO! I petition for smokers to be outside of trainstations and away from bus stops. :mad:

and then ceremoniously shot and one round in the head just to make extra sure, right? Yeah!

summerrain 31.01.2011 16:57

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Originally Posted by lost_inbroad (Post 1087467)
NO! I petition for smokers to be outside of trainstations and away rom bus stops. :mad:

Nah. Lets just ship them all to an island and let them kill each other slowly with all that smoke. :rolleyes:

I'll tell you what it is - there is one who will never be satisfied. Back home, smoking is banned at bus stops, stadiums, restaurants - the lot. It has got to be one of the strictest non-smoking laws in the world - you cant even smoke within a 5m radius of any office building. I dont have a problem with that because I know its a disgusting anti social habit. A couple of us were smoking outside an open air restaurant once and in my opinion, a safe distance from the tables but a non-smoker still complained about our smoke interfering with his lunch.

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Originally Posted by Nil (Post 1087454)
NOOOOOOOO! I thought you were perfect! And there is the horrible truth, you are a smoker! :(

haaa, cheers for that vote of confidence. I am not perfect - but am damn close.

Nil 31.01.2011 16:58

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Originally Posted by lost_inbroad (Post 1087467)
NO! I petition for smokers to be away from bus stops. :mad:

I sign for that! Nothing worst than standing in the Pram section of the bus and nowhere else to escape from this horrible smell coming from people's breath after they breath out the last Oh necessary! cigarette puff they had to have in the door on the bus when stepping in!

MusicChick 31.01.2011 17:00

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Isn't there some deal on Nicorettes in January?

zymogen 31.01.2011 17:04

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The majority of smokers are considerate people who don't want to be a nuisance to others, but some are a real pain and just brainless. Smoking next to kiddos or pregnant women is a no no.

I generally don't mind smokers on train platforms because there's enough fresh air. But a couple of days ago there was this guy at the metro station, standing in the door of the metrotrain with his cigarette! :eek::msnsick::mad:

lost_inbroad 31.01.2011 17:06

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Originally Posted by summerrain (Post 1087482)
Nah. Lets just ship them all to an island and let them kill each other slowly with all that smoke. :rolleyes:

I'll tell you what it is - there is one who will never be satisfied. Back home, smoking is banned at bus stops, stadiums, restaurants - the lot. It has got to be one of the strictest non-smoking laws in the world - you cant even smoke within a 5m radius of any building. I dont have a problem with that because I know its a disgusting anti social habit. A couple of us were smoking outside an open air restaurant once and in my opinion, a safe distance from the tables but a non-smoker still complained about our smoke interfering with his lunch.

..yeah it's beacuse you smokers think that you're far, far away from affecting any non smokers but you're wrong..see us non smokers not only are healthier, have better sex and live longer....but we also have a more refined sense of taste and smell thus...when I would like to indulge my 34chf steak somewhere on a patio...I sure as hell don't want to have a wiff of your cancer stick....but on a more serious note, that island idea is not too bad after all. :rolleyes:

lost_inbroad 31.01.2011 17:07

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Originally Posted by zymogen (Post 1087501)
The majority of smokers are considerate people who don't want to be a nuisance to others, but some are a real pain and just brainless. Smoking next to kiddos or pregnant women is a no no.

I generally don't mind smokers on train platforms because there's enough fresh air. But a couple of days ago there was this guy at the metro station, standing in the door of the metrotrain with his cigarette! :eek::msnsick::mad:

..yeah, a couple of times, there was also someone smoking on a train. Which I find the ultimate insult.

summerrain 31.01.2011 17:09

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Originally Posted by lost_inbroad (Post 1087502)
..yeah it's beacuse you smokers think that you're far, far away from affecting any non smokers but you're wrong..see us non smokers not only are healthier, have better sex and live longer....but we also have a more refined sense of taste and smell thus...when I would like to indulge my 34chf steak somewhere on a patio...I sure as hell don't want to have a wiff of your cancer stick....but on a more serious note, that island idea is not too bad after all. :rolleyes:

Well from your posts, you are super anti-smokers, and want nothing but total annihilation of them before you will be completely satisfied. So we'll just have to agree to disagree. :)

zymogen 31.01.2011 17:13

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Originally Posted by lost_inbroad (Post 1087508)
..yeah, a couple of times, there was also someone smoking on a train. Which I find the ultimate insult.

Did you kick their a$$es?

lost_inbroad 31.01.2011 17:15

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Originally Posted by zymogen (Post 1087521)
Did you kick their a$$es?

No, for some reason, it was always when I was about to get out of the train. :rolleyes:

AbFab 31.01.2011 17:17

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Ah the bi-annual smoking thread. With the customary smoker caught in the headlights.

Even with the ban from last May, we still grumble. Just try to remember how it was just 12 months ago here and be thankful.

I dislike smoke as much as the next person (if not more), but I also appreciate the long hard battle to get where we are today - albeit still about 25 years behind the rest of the western world...

zymogen 31.01.2011 17:17

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Originally Posted by lost_inbroad (Post 1087524)
No, for some reason, it was always when I was about to get out of the train. :rolleyes:

Keyboard warrior! :p

lost_inbroad 31.01.2011 17:19

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Originally Posted by zymogen (Post 1087530)
Keyboard warrior! :p

..I guess :(. :D

mirfield 31.01.2011 17:22

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Originally Posted by zymogen (Post 1087521)
Did you kick their a$$es?

He doesn't want to catch the attention of the ticket inspector.

st2lemans 31.01.2011 17:29

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My apartment has a non-smoking area. It's called the balcony! :D

And, no, I don't smoke (at least not cigarettes, a good cigar is nice on occasion though), but my daughters do, as has every woman I've ever dated.:eek:

Tom

lost_inbroad 31.01.2011 17:29

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Originally Posted by st2lemans (Post 1087545)
My apartment has a non-smoking area. It's called the balcony! :D

And, no, I don't smoke (at least not cigarettes, a good cigar is nice on occasion though), but my daughters do, as has every woman I've ever dated.:eek:

Tom

...and? :confused:

MusicChick 31.01.2011 17:30

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Originally Posted by lost_inbroad (Post 1087549)
...and? :confused:

Well, he is obviously hooked on 2nd hand smoking :D

Chemmie 31.01.2011 17:40

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as a previous long time non-smoker, I agree with this, so now whenever I smoke in such a place I make sure to get a good distance away from anyone, and anywhere that someone might want to stand (wind effects also always considered). But there's always some people who seems to go out of their way to walk over and stand right in my personal space. I'm barely used to people crowding personal space as it is, but when I find a nice secluded area to smoke, it irritates that some one always follows.

st2lemans 31.01.2011 17:41

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Originally Posted by lost_inbroad (Post 1087549)
...and? :confused:

And I don't see what the problem is with smoke.

Tom


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