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Smoking on the train platforms.uughh

Is it me or can no one else take the smoking here? Why is it allowed to smoke on train platforms while waiting for the train. The smokers aren't even polite smokers. Always have cigarette smoke blown in my face and stuck in my hair. I can't take it anymore. I get caught before I can even get to the warm "non smoking room". It's making me crazy!
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Is it me or can no one else take the smoking here? Why is it allowed to smoke on train platforms while waiting for the train. The smokers aren't even polite smokers. Always have cigarette smoke blown in my face and stuck in my hair. I can't take it anymore. I get caught before I can even get to the warm "non smoking room". It's making me crazy!
Polite smokers? What planet are you from?

Switzerland is like the final bastion for smokers. They love it, everyone smokes as if their lungs were made of leather and pop-rivets. An autopsy would reveal a little 'Swiss Made' label on their windbags.
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Polite smokers? What planet are you from?

Switzerland is like the final bastion for smokers. They love it, everyone smokes as if their lungs were made of leather and pop-rivets. An autopsy would reveal a little 'Swiss Made' label on their windbags.
Hahahaha you're hilarious I love it!
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Is it me or can no one else take the smoking here? Why is it allowed to smoke on train platforms while waiting for the train. The smokers aren't even polite smokers. Always have cigarette smoke blown in my face and stuck in my hair. I can't take it anymore. I get caught before I can even get to the warm "non smoking room". It's making me crazy!
Eat some smoked salmon and blow in their face.
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Re: Smoking on the train platforms.uughh

Whatever happened to live and let live? I'm not a smoker (never have been) but find it more tolerable than getting smothered in somebody else's perfume or aftershave whilst on the train.

Have a cigarette and calm down for goodness sake.
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Re: Smoking on the train platforms.uughh

I tend to agree strongly with the live and let live sentiment.
Platforms are outdoors afterall and at the risk of being blunt I think we have allowed society to become very snowflakish and whiney Imo.

Get on with your life, move away.
I don't smoke and never have but some smoke wafting through the air iny direction or indeed in the direction of my kids won't kill anyone and might teach some tolerance of others differences.



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Whatever happened to live and let live? I'm not a smoker (never have been) but find it more tolerable than getting smothered in somebody else's perfume or aftershave whilst on the train.

Have a cigarette and calm down for goodness sake.
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Ignorance is bliss!

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I tend to agree strongly with the live and let live sentiment.
Platforms are outdoors afterall and at the risk of being blunt I think we have allowed society to become very snowflakish and whiney Imo.

Get on with your life, move away.
I don't smoke and never have but some smoke wafting through the air iny direction or indeed in the direction of my kids won't kill anyone and might teach some tolerance of others differences.
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Ignorance is bliss!

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I'm not ignorant at all, I'm well informed and as such I understand that breathing second hand cigarette smoke ocassionally will not harm me. I'm more resilient than that as I'm sure are you.

But my main point is live and let live and tolerate our fellow man so if that's your position then I respect that I just won't support it in the train platform context.
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Re: Smoking on the train platforms.uughh

+1, Horatio Gonzales.

Is the society more and more whiney and silly, in general, or is the EF - the epitome of snowflakesness? I really have my doubts. How many times did you hear people in real life complaining about smokers or other insignificant inconveniences. If I hadn't travelled quite a lot so far I would believe that EFers come from paradisiac countries, where angels live not people, and everybody behaves considerately at all times. I think some countries, which shall be not named, forbid the commerce with mirrors.
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An outdoor platform?

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The recent introduction on bans on smoking in bars and restaurants
in New York, Ireland and Norway has given fresh impetus
to the debate on how best to reduce the toll of premature
smoking-related deaths in the United Kingdom. The Scottish
first minister, after returning from a visit to Ireland, has raised the
real possibility of implementing a ban in Scotland.1
This debate has long been characterized by the public health
and tobacco control communities on one side and the tobacco
industry, supported by hospitality industry organizations, many
of which have been established by tobacco companies to voice
opposition to a ban. The alignment of forces is, however, changing
as the voice of the general public is at last being heard. Contrary
to the myths that have been peddled by the tobacco industry,
public consultations are revealing the true extent to which the
British people oppose being subjected to second-hand smoke. For
example, the ‘Big Smoking Debate’ organized by the London
Health Commission involving over 30 000 respondents indicated
that the vast majority (76 per cent) wanted completely smoke free
public places, including both smokers and non-smokers.2
These findings are unsurprising, given the unpleasant physical
effects of exposure to concentrated tobacco smoke. However,
public opinion is also being galvanized by growing recognition of
the adverse health effects of second-hand smoke, something the
tobacco industry has striven hard to refute as part of a campaign
sustained over many years to prevent the introduction of bans on
smoking in public places. There is now an overwhelming consensus
among independent tobacco researchers that exposure to
second-hand smoke causes many deaths, with recent research
using more precise measures of exposure revealing how exposure
to second-hand smoke is considerably more dangerous than was
previously believed.3 This is consistent with recently discovered
tobacco industry documents showing that second-hand smoke is
even more harmful, volume for volume, than directly inhaled
smoke.4 Yet the industry continues to place the highest priority
on preventing the introduction of restrictions on smoking in public
places and has been especially active in spreading misinformation
about the effects of the bans in Ireland and New York.
The main reason it has pursued this policy with such tenacity
is clear; bans, together with increased taxation, are the most
effective ways of reducing smoking overall.5 However, it is also
concerned that to concede that second-hand smoke is harmful
would undermine its argument that smoking is a matter of
personal choice.
The strategy pursued by the industry has several elements.
One, now largely discredited, has been to attack the link between
second-hand smoking and disease has included commissioning
research, some of which was fraudulent and some simply designed
to mislead, undermining the communication of research showing
the harm caused by second-hand smoke, and lobbying governments
and regulators.6,7
Another is to argue that any irritation (again denying the
possibility of harm) can be dealt with by ventilation. This too is
incorrect, with extensive evidence that the force of ventilation
that would be required is far beyond the capacity of existing
systems and would be similar to sitting outside during a gale.8 It
is important to be aware that many harmful components of
tobacco smoke are odourless and the tobacco industry has put
much effort into masking the smell and visibility of environmental
tobacco smoke.9
The third argument, and one with which it has had some
success so far in the United Kingdom, is that the introduction of
smoking bans in bars and restaurants will reduce takings, and
thus sales tax and employment. To sustain this, it has engaged in
a wide-ranging campaign directed at the hospitality industry.
Yet, like its other arguments, this too is false. The most recent
evidence is from New York where, in the 9 months after a ban on
smoking in public places was introduced, sales tax receipts on
food and drink increased by 12 per cent and employment in the
hospitality industry increased.10 However, the most convincing
evidence comes from a systematic review of research on the
impact of bans on bar and restaurant revenue.11 The details
results merit study. The authors examined 97 studies of the
economic impact of smoking bans. Every one of the 37 studies
Why we need to ban smoking in public places
now
Martin McKee, Helen Hogan and Anna Gilmore
Journal of Public Health Vol. 26, No. 4, pp. 325–326
doi:10.1093/pubmed/fdh187 Printed in Great Britain
Journal of Public Health vol. 26 no. 4 © Faculty of Public Health 2004; all rights reserved.
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+1, Horatio Gonzales.

Is the society winning and silly, or is the EF? I really have my doubts. How many times did you hear people in real life complaining about smokers or other insignificant inconveniences. If I haven't travelled quite a lot so far I would believe that EFers come from paradisiac countries, where angels live not people, and everybody behaves considerate at all times.
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Re: Smoking on the train platforms.uughh

Even I as a smoker agree. They should be locked out doors.
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Even I as a smoker agree. They should be locked out doors.
Isn't a platform outdoors? Its certainly not indoors

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Isn't a platform outdoors? Its certainly not indoors
It' s a shared public space where I as a non smoker should be able to escape the smoke...however this isn't happening, as smokers tend to be ignorants who light it up whenever they can...and this creates a problem for people who value their health.
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Isn't a platform outdoors? Its certainly not indoors
To me it is..
12 years ago I was smoking in the trains, 10 years ago, smoking in the office... 8 years ago in the airplanes, 1 year ago in restaurants, and now not even outside?
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I think it's only a question of time until they stop smoking in stations here. They have already stopped it in Germany.
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Isn't a platform outdoors? Its certainly not indoors

This also proves my point that smokers are dumber then the general population
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Re: Smoking on the train platforms.uughh

I finally got the hint, recognised the endless negative progression of the popularity of smokers, was savaged with a vicious plethora of insults by a militant little woman in Yosemite national park for daring to smoke a cigarette in such fresh air and gave up in '07. I figure that after a bit more time it will be about as socially acceptable as public masturbation - at least in the non-Swiss parts of the western world.

As a former smoker I sympathise with the feelings of persecution smokers feel. But really, if they can't take the hint or summon the will-power I would greatly appreciate them at least refraining from striking up on a busy railway platform at some god-foresaken hour of a Monday morning when it is still dark and minus temperatures. Just not a healthy way for anyone to start the day.
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Whatever happened to live and let live?
I think that died with having ashes routinely blown into my baby's face, every single time I was waiting for a train with a buggy. I don't get people who light up 2inches from an infant, who sat next to me on the bench when I was preggo and light up, who come to the playground (!) and smoke while kids play a foot from them. Degu. It did teach me to speed up my local lingo acquisition, having to bitch out smokers from the baby playgrounds. Yes, it is in the open air, no, no smoking should be happening there. It's for kids to play in, not inhale your nastiness and have smog and tar in their hair, on their skin and clothes.

Train platform, same thing. If you can't walk away a few meters on the side of the station, don't smoke. Why would people who have to stand there, waiting for their train, why would they have to walk away from somebody who is hooked on their bad habit. As it is, people have to avoid smokers on the platform, should be the other way round. Poluters.

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This also proves my point that smokers are dumber then the general population
Come on then, i'll bite...enlighten me, why is saying that a plaform (open to the air) is a slice of the outdoors, dumb?

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Re: Smoking on the train platforms.uughh

This morning there was that terrible onion smell in the Intercity all the way from Zurich to Berne. Maybe I should start my own whining thread.
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