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Old 16.02.2011, 23:10
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The message I sent about the explanation was deleted.
I already mentioned that ecoleint proved to be unrespectful towards some children or parents.
Since you never actually posted any "proof or explanation" I'll add your previously deleted rant to this thread.

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Old 16.02.2011, 23:18
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Is that the school where they make the children clean the chimneys, collect salt from mines located underneath the gym and prepare each other for cannibalistic feasts as part of the home economics curriculum, or am I thinking of the other one?
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Although I was expecting a high level of education services in ecoleint, my surprise was to find that the level of academic education is really low
OK. Thanks to the admin. Here's my two centimes. I was not particularly impressed with the academic level even before my child was admitted; you can tell this by simply looking at their brochures. The schools have an open admission policy so they are not academically elite schools. You should have been aware of this, but I admit the marketing of the quality of the schools can fool you.

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and children who are not considered "rich" are very badly treated by so called teachers.
I see here why the post got deleted. That is a pretty strong accusation. Rather than making judgments, you should simply tell us your experience. All parents have had difficulties with our children's schools.
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I don't think it is this one
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Old 16.02.2011, 23:36
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OK. Thanks to the admin. Here's my two centimes. I was not particularly impressed with the academic level even before my child was admitted; you can tell this by simply looking at their brochures. The schools have an open admission policy so they are not academically elite schools. You should have been aware of this, but I admit the marketing of the quality of the schools can fool you.



I see here why the post got deleted. That is a pretty strong accusation. Rather than making judgments, you should simply tell us your experience. All parents have had difficulties with our children's schools.

Hmm, when some children are allowed to always hit others and you discover that they are somehow always belonging to the same group of wealthy people, the evidences we were collecting were not helping a lot because the teachers have to follow them as main sponsors and not the victims. I sent you the private message.
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Since you never actually posted any "proof or explanation" I'll add your previously deleted rant to this thread.

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No problem, if you think the first message is not compliant to the forum rules, you can delete it.
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Following this thread has been like watching a repeat of a LibDem Party Political Broadcast...
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Hmm, when some children are allowed to always hit others and you discover that they are somehow always belonging to the same group of wealthy people, the evidences we were collecting were not helping a lot because the teachers have to follow them as main sponsors and not the victims.
I don't know the school, but that sounds like a load of old cobblers to me.
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Hmm, when some children are allowed to always hit others and you discover that they are somehow always belonging to the same group of wealthy people, the evidences we were collecting were not helping a lot because the teachers have to follow them as main sponsors and not the victims. I sent you the private message.
The problem is that it would be difficult to prove that there is a conspiracy of wealthy parents and the administration. I doubt that is the case. The Ecoleint has 4000 students and to favorise a few wealthy people would not make financial sense. More likely there are kids who have discipline problems and the teachers simply cannot control everything.

We have problems with the Ecoleint as well. As parents we can only do so much to influence the school; they have a huge number of issues to deal with (including meddling parents like us ). Like you we are considering other schools; we're fortunate we have that option.

Hope the new school works out better for you.
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Re: Bad experience with ecoleint

For what it's worth, if you want to advise others on this school or find similar threads on this in the future it might make sense to refer properly to the school in question. It took me the whole thread to guess what school it is. If it is indeed the International school of Geneva, that is the name most people use to refer to it and probably should be used in the title. If the short name, I understand it is "ecolint" and not "ecoleint".

Futher, it would make a lot of sense to refer to what campus of the 3 schools, unless it is a generic issue that effects all three. It is clear that the Nations campus is a new one with perhaps some growing pains. Le Chat tends to be more stable with a lot of local kids attending, and LGB is the old traditional campus. An experience at one can be drastically different from the others from what I understand.
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Re:Bad experience with ecoleint

OK - here is my personal take on LGB. To give to Caesar what is Caesar's, I think that the school puts a lot of effort in hiring capable and well-trained teachers (some exceptions apply). I understand that there is also a performance review in place and therefore teachers are doing their best to meet certain academic standards. These standards however are not very high - the reason being (as was pointed out before) that the school is non-selective and sticks to an "average performance" policy.
As for the "posh" factor - couldn't agree more. It is what it is. It is my decision as a parent to keep my child there or to go to another school (which I am currently doing). On a personal note, I feel that the parents could get together and write a letter to the Administration and bring this matter to their attention - the power of many!

One more thing: many newcomers are using EF as a resource for information and decision-making. Threads like this one reveals "the other side of the coin" and as such are very valuable. I wish I had the chance to get this kind of information before enrolling my daughter - at least I knew beforehand what I was getting myself into.

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Re: Bad experience with ecoleint

Gee...thread's not been deleted yet....must have been something wrong with the original. Curse those inconsistent mods!
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Re: Bad experience with ecoleint

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Cannabistilistic feasts? Nom nom...

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One more thing: many newcomers are using EF as a resource for information and decision-making. Threads like this one reveals "the other side of the coin" and as such are very valuable. I wish I had the chance to get this kind of information before enrolling my daughter - at least I knew beforehand what I was getting myself into.
Hence the importance of providing background information as to why one makes a complaint. It's very easy - and lazy - to shout out "That place is terrible!" on the internet, without justifiying ones self. Mods will naturally take a dim view of drive by complaints.

Recently someone complained about a car hire service, or lack of. A manager of the company in the UK caught wind, addressed the issue and injected excellent PR. And please, complain to the company in question before bringing it up on here; often times there are two sides to a story.

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The schools have an open admission policy so they are not academically elite schools.
Rhetorical question: which schools in Switzerland qualify as "academically elite schools"?
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Re: Bad experience with ecoleint

What this thread is about? Complaining about a school or complaining about the lack of information form the OP?

Because right now, I don't see much of information that makes me interested.

OP, If you had a bad experience, explain it, What happened, how and when. What did you do, did it worked or not and ask advice or give advice.

You send me a pm to tell me most of what you already said here, means: not much. You opened a thread to complain, which is all good. But for God's sake do tell us the story of your complain.

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Rhetorical question: which schools in Switzerland qualify as "academically elite schools"?
Can't speak for the Romande, but some of the "Gymnasien" here in the German-speaking part ain't half bad.
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Rhetorical question: which schools in Switzerland qualify as "academically elite schools"?
All the collèges (final four years) of the Geneva state system are elite in that you have to pass exams to get in. Basically like the old grammar schools in the UK.
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All the collèges (final four years) of the Geneva state system are elite in that you have to pass exams to get in. Basically like the old grammar schools in the UK.
Thnx for the info - exactly what I suspected: Swiss (free) public system works better than the ($$$$$$$$$$$) private one!
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Rhetorical question: which schools in Switzerland qualify as "academically elite schools"?
A number of the traditional swiss boarding schools could be classified as academically elite, but they are probably also financially elite as well.
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