Restaurants like Funerals!!! - Page 3

Energy · #41 17.02.2011, 22:56

Goodness, THANK YOU! This is exactly what I mean and the people here are sending me already to a McDonald's kids party. Plus, the tables are SOOO near to each other at so many places that it forces people to almost whisper!

	Quote:	Nil
	I am with you on that! Must be in the blood! I like to go somewhere when you feel that you are actually out of your house. It doesn't have to be loud to the point you need to shout (that is not fun) but enough loud to feel like the quiet couple next table isn't listening to your stories. I went to meet a friend of this forum in a coffee/restaurant place yesterday morning and the place was so quiet! The couple behind my friend was just listening to us. And we were very quiet... I like the American, Mediteranean style in restaurant. It is louder and yes, waiters are friendly and they smile.

Energy · #42 17.02.2011, 22:58

HAHAHA!!! That is sooo funny. I hope I don't get to that point.

	Quote:	Angela-74
	I come from South America and I used to be what I would call now "loud", when my family and friends come now I have to keep telling them to lower it down ...

Wollishofener · #43 17.02.2011, 23:01

	Quote:	Energy
	Ok y'all, am I going to wrong places or what? I had a shock on Tuesday evening when I went with my hubby to a restaurant. I had spend the last 2 weeks in the US hopping form one restaurant to the other with loud conversations around me and funny waiters making jokes and starting chats. When I arrived to our reserved table I realized...OH MY LORD! Are we in a funeral? There were other 10 tables and I could not hear a PEEP. Automatically I had to lower my latin decibels to speak. Oh, and did I tell you that once I got a "SSHHHH!!" from a girl when I was laughing with a friend AT A BAR? (And no, we were not drunk, we were having a drink, eating some tapas and catching up with our lives) What is it with people here and the low low noise level? I think they will drive themselves mad having Mariachis playing next to them while eating (LOL!)

Just to start, pssssst ! , thanks. Loud people are not appreciated in Switzerland

Italians in the 1950ies and 60ies and into the 70ies were detested by quite many CHers as being "loud people" ! And "Latin Americans" are reputed to be rather toooooo loud

Energy · #44 17.02.2011, 23:09

According to the experience of some friends, this is a really great restaurant! All the place is pitch dark, hence it is called the Blind Cow.
I just found the address if you are interested in going:

Mühlebachstrasse 148
CH-8008 Zürich

	Quote:	ZenAgent
	Really? I've been in the Flying Cow before in Martigny, but Blind Cow? Where's that??

#45 17.02.2011, 23:10

	Quote:	Energy
	HAHAHA!!!

Shhhhhhh

Wollishofener · #46 17.02.2011, 23:10

	Quote:	Energy
	Ok y'all, am I going to wrong places or what? I had a shock on Tuesday evening when I went with my hubby to a restaurant. I had spend the last 2 weeks in the US hopping form one restaurant to the other with loud conversations around me and funny waiters making jokes and starting chats. When I arrived to our reserved table I realized...OH MY LORD! Are we in a funeral? There were other 10 tables and I could not hear a PEEP. Automatically I had to lower my latin decibels to speak. Oh, and did I tell you that once I got a "SSHHHH!!" from a girl when I was laughing with a friend AT A BAR? (And no, we were not drunk, we were having a drink, eating some tapas and catching up with our lives) What is it with people here and the low low noise level? I think they will drive themselves mad having Mariachis playing next to them while eating (LOL!)

And over to the funerals. What you have after the funeral is a "Lichmaal" (Leichmal in Standard German) or in traditional CH-language "ä Liich". And at such occasions, with a minor meal, usually buffet-style, but with good wines, people do not care about being loud, it is normal at such occasions. Not least as these "Liichmals" allow people to meet who have not seen each other for years. My mother, two months before her end, gave me her exact ideas for that occasion which I put into effect accordingly, and mentioned this to the crowd, who gave an applause to the arrangement. Many who knew here stated that her gastronomic ideas were always good. True, I in cooperation with Mrs Reverend, already had converted the "Abdankung" into a kind of a show in reference to her. And so, this meeting was conducted in a very good mood and nobody opposed to loud talking

Gastro Gnome · #47 17.02.2011, 23:14

When I saw the thread title I thought it was going to be about places like this . . .

Energy · #48 17.02.2011, 23:14

Oh, BELIEVE ME, we were talking normally without a need to call attention like teenagers sometimes do and yes, we did laugh for 4 seconds loud. Immediately the lady in front of us turn to us with a teacher finger and SHHH!! There was a pause of silence between my friend and I as if, did that really just happened? And then we laughed again. This time, not as loud.
And I repeat, we were having only one drink with food...so no, not drunk at all.

But I can imagine your situation being quite uncomfortable.

	Quote:	Brass427
	I dunno. If someone gets 'shhhhed' in a bar, they must really be making a racket. Personally, I find it embarrassing when the only loud obnoxious voice in a restaurant has an egregious American accent. For God's sake, look around you for guidance. I recall sitting in a nice restaurant in Füssen, Germany and cringing when some jackass at a corner table starting talking to his tablemates about his time in the army when they 'rolled raht oveh them dirty Natzehs'. Appalling.

Energy · #49 17.02.2011, 23:18

Hey do not blame the Latin blood, kiddo. You can not have the flavor and the rhythm without the noise

. "Arriba, arriba!"

	Quote:	Wollishofener
	Just to start, pssssst ! , thanks. Loud people are not appreciated in Switzerland Italians in the 1950ies and 60ies and into the 70ies were detested by quite many CHers as being "loud people" ! And "Latin Americans" are reputed to be rather toooooo loud

summerrain · #50 17.02.2011, 23:21

oh God....

Wollishofener · #51 17.02.2011, 23:33

	Quote:	st2lemans
	It's not particularly quiet around here, even after a funeral! Tom

Ticinesi are "loud Italians"

Wollishofener · #52 17.02.2011, 23:42

	Quote:	adrianlondon
	Stupid country. The trams rattle around from around 5am. The Swissies all slam their car doors and drive around like loonies at 6am. At 7am the builders start work and the factories and shops start their deliveries. Then they all fall into a coma at 7pm ready for the 5am start. I'll never get used to it, but luckily living in Basel people are flexible with the rules and there isn't a lot of "shhh"ing going on.

- public transport to start at 5am ? sure, as required !
- many many people up and around at 6am ? Sure, as required !
- 7pm ? "Feierabend", either at home or "out"

Wollishofener · #53 17.02.2011, 23:45

	Quote:	ishaka
	@Energy I found the title of your thread amusing as it reminded me that in certain countries and cultures, funerals can actually be quite lively and animated events.

Funerals also here can be quite liverly and animated events !

You not yet having had such occasions ?

Wollishofener · #54 18.02.2011, 00:00

	Quote:	fduvall
	I don't think it is 'racist" at all, as 'we' Americans are every race on the planet. But I think for every American that you have seen speaking loudly in a restaurant, I could match them with a Brit/German/Spaniard/Brazilian etc. When I go out to restaurants in San Francisco, where I am from, I know in advance if I am looking for romantic/raucous/classy/trendy and have no problem finding a place to match. In Zurich, that is not as much the case... fduvall

WHY NOT ? I mean I in Zurich know in advance whether a place is romantic or raucas or classy or trendy. So I do not quite see what your problem is here in Zurich ............. thanks for clarification

phdoofus · #55 18.02.2011, 06:01

	Quote:	higgybaby
	I'm sorry to be racist

Racists (and, more properly, bigots) never apologize for their behavior. Embrace your hate. Own it. That's a good lad.

Nil · #56 18.02.2011, 07:38

It is not just in restaurant. Here kids are not allowed to be kids. I have a friend who told me that her toddler get Shh! at almost once a week in the tram. If a baby cries, you'll have some ignorants who will tell you to make your baby stop crying...

Imagine when a toddler cries and a lady begin to shout at her because she is making noise.... that is going to help a toddler to stop crying...

flow23 · #57 18.02.2011, 08:40

	Quote:	fduvall
	lol... another reason that we are leaving. I am all for people being able to choose places and cultures that suit them. But for sure, the Zurich culture does not suit us. We are off to Spain in a few weeks and won't look back. fduvall

gute reise!

OT: i dont see why this is meant to be a swiss thing, quietness it restaurants?!
all restaurants i go to i am expecting it not to be oktoberfest munich style.
and i find them everywhere, if its france, italy germany, austria...everywhere.

Nil · #58 18.02.2011, 08:59

	Quote:	flow23
	gute reise! OT: i dont see why this is meant to be a swiss thing, quietness it restaurants?! all restaurants i go to i am expecting it not to be oktoberfest munich style. and i find them everywhere, if its france, italy germany, austria...everywhere.

Why the extreme? The OP didn't say he/she wanted a Oktoberfest/orgies/New Years drunkiest party ever/Okidoki on sunday afternoon, kind of restaurant.

He/she was just saying that ''in general'' restaurant here are dead quiet. And for affirming that some send him/her to McDonald, put that on Americans or compared her affirmation with something extreme.

Suisse2008 · #59 18.02.2011, 09:12

	Quote:	Wollishofener
	Just to start, pssssst ! , thanks. Loud people are not appreciated in Switzerland

Correction... not appreciated in Ostschweiz.

I think one should make a finer definition of what is loud. In most places in Switzerland, rude boorish behaviour is not accepted. I think what the OP noticed is the difference between "not hearing a PEEP" and at least some friendly laughter/conversation.

Raymond Blanc, the French cook based in the UK said that the English are overly concerned with table manners and do not enjoy the food experience. The French are the opposite (no table manners and they celebrate the food experience). I think this comparison applies well to the two sides of Switzerland.

Just go to a nice auberge in the countryside (in Westschweiz) and you will know what I mean!

#60 18.02.2011, 09:48

	Quote:	Suisse2008
	Correction... not appreciated in Ostschweiz.

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