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Re: My Louis Vuitton @ Geneva Airport's Customs

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The only thing I took away from this story is : why would anyone pay 1000 CHF for a bag????
good question especially when you know following facts:
- different parts are produced in asia and assembled in France/Spain allowing them to make insane margins while writing "Made in France".

- LV was a family business since end of 19th century and they collaborated witht the pro-nazi regime of Vichy during WWII

- they organize the grey-market when it serves their business.

- only 1% of the bags you see in the street are genuine LV bags

I've seen in Paris buses of chinese tourists queuing to buy LV bags for 600 euros (everything is organized that way).

LV is a damn good business with high margins.
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Old 25.02.2011, 09:41
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Re: My Louis Vuitton @ Geneva Airport's Customs

It's not actually that hard to spot a fake LV from a real one.

You can't get a real one for $10 or $30. The ones that "over run" out of the factory are sold at close to full price in China or wherever they're made. The ones which are meant to be destroyed because they are flawed are sold at around half price and are "first grade" fakes. The ones with Lewis Mutton on them from a factory outside KL cost $30.
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Old 25.02.2011, 09:48
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^^^ This is the bit I don't get.

I have been through airports literally 100s of times over the years including about 10 times through Geneva and have only once been stopped just once in the green channel at Zurich and then not searched. I was asked where I had flown from. I replied the UK and was waved on...
I, too, was thinking the same thing. I have flown into GVA countless times and never been stopped, hell I'm not sure I've even seen any customs officials in the green channel at all.
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Old 25.02.2011, 09:53
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^^^ This is the bit I don't get.

I have been through airports literally 100s of times over the years including about 10 times through Geneva and have only once been stopped just once in the green channel at Zurich and then not searched. I was asked where I had flown from. I replied the UK and was waved on...
They tend to stop certain people all the time, and others never.

I'm in the group of people who never get stopped, but I have such an innocent look that no one would ever expect me to have a bag full of drugs.
Then I have friends who get stopped almost every single time.
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Old 25.02.2011, 09:59
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I landed in Geneva airport 2 weeks ago. I knew i will be searched at the customs, like everytime.
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^^^ This is the bit I don't get.
AbFab, Eyebeebe & PaddyG - are you white northern Europeans per chance? (Begga, I know you are )

No idea what the OP's racs/skin colour is, but I've been through customs 100s of times too and rarely stopped (once in Basel, once in Zurich). But I'm a white Anglo-Saxon.

On the other hand most people I know who are not white (Europeans) get stopped regularly. Including one case a UK national who was stopped "because he was black" - reason as given by border chappy.

Another friend reported that she was regularly stopped when alone (HK British-Chinese) but never when with her Swedish partner.

These are two quick examples off the top of my head. Sorry if this is news to you, but Swiss customs target foreigners as identified by skin colour.

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Old 25.02.2011, 10:01
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Re: My Louis Vuitton @ Geneva Airport's Customs

I have to confess something:
when sometimes i cross the customs line at airport and when I don't have something illegal (read quantities of alcohol/wine bottles) I secretely hope that they stop me just to see their deceived face when opening my suitcase
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AbFab, Eyebeebe & PaddyG - are you white northern Europeans per chance? (Begga, I know you are )

No idea what the OP's racs/skin colour is, but I've been through customs 100s of times too and rarely stopped (once in Basel, once in Zurich). But I'm a white Anglo-Saxon.

On the other hand most people I know who are not white (Europeans) get stopped regularly. Including one case a UK national who was stopped "because he was black" - reason as given by border chappy.
I started to write this as well, but then I deleted it, since I didn't want to turn this thread into racism.

So for the records; Carlos started it!

But you are right. The colour of your skin still seams to matters unfortunately.
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Re: My Louis Vuitton @ Geneva Airport's Customs

So I suppose Praktikum is a very very bad girl and the rest of us are really nice people!
We always buy the real things and no no no we never download songs or movies without paying for them.
So what was this thread about? What OP asked for?
In my opinion LV should go after the factories who make those products.
Not for the easy target, the buyer.
But then they will have to deal with powerful countries making serious money from this market.
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Re: My Louis Vuitton @ Geneva Airport's Customs

Lewis Mutton fake - haha, that is hilarious
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We always buy the real things and no no no we never download songs or movies without paying for them.


I don't have a problem with what Praktikum did, but, to my knowledge, I've always bought the real thing and don't download songs or movies without paying for them.*

What was your point again?

<gets down from moral high ground>

*although this may be due to my technical limitations rather than anything else...

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AbFab, Eyebeebe & PaddyG - are you white northern Europeans per chance? (Begga, I know you are )
I'm sure there is some prejudice in their selection process, but a friend of mine get's stopped and searched almost everytime he flies internationally regardless of where to or from: he's tall, blond, blue eyed, always neat as a pin and very clean, doesn't drink or smoke, taxes paid up and money in the bank, says yes ma'am and no sir- he's the model citizen in every way. Must be a twinkle in his eye. Or maybe he looks at the customs guys a certain way. Who knows.
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I'm sure there is some prejudice in their selection process, but a friend of mine get's stopped and searched almost everytime he flies internationally regardless of where to or from: he's tall, blond, blue eyed, always neat as a pin and very clean, doesn't drink or smoke, taxes paid up and money in the bank, says yes ma'am and no sir- he's the model citizen in every way. Must be a twinkle in his eye. Or maybe he looks at the customs guys a certain way. Who knows.
Is he single?
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I'm sure there is some prejudice in their selection process, but a friend of mine get's stopped and searched almost everytime he flies internationally regardless of where to or from: he's tall, blond, blue eyed, always neat as a pin and very clean, doesn't drink or smoke, taxes paid up and money in the bank, says yes ma'am and no sir- he's the model citizen in every way. Must be a twinkle in his eye. Or maybe he looks at the customs guys a certain way. Who knows.
Does he get stopped by men or women?
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Is he single?
No. And he's a very faithful man too .

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Does he get stopped by men or women?
Both! Odd thing is about 10 years ago he went through customs with his girlfriend- they were separated by a dozen people or so, and the customs guys pulled both out of the group, and only them. Pheromones? Mystery.
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The problem is these are not always fakes, they are simply copies from the same production runs.
This is urban legend. The fakes are just that, fakes. Can be made by anyone, anywhere. Second-sort items are either destroyed or sold at Outlets and/or third world countries. Manufacturing clothing or handbags is no rocket science. Could be of excellent quality and even closely matching the looks of originals, even if faked. Why at such low price? Because the margins on clothing are damn high. The average tshirt from Migros comes with a 300% profit margin. For "fashion" items, sky is the limit, and 1000% is not even where it starts.

Best way to find this out is to find a friend who does Marketing and get him drunk/forget about trade secrecy. ;-)
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Re: My fake Louis Vuitton contraband was seized at Geneva Airport's Customs

You are a foreigner and get arrested by customs officer often? Hand him this paper:
Dear Mr Officer when
you drive your japanese car,
you tank fuel with arab oil
you switch your korean LCD TV
you drink your scotish whisky
you eat some iranian pistaches
you dine on a swedish table
you have brazilian or new-zealand meat
you have spanish vegetables with italian olive oil
your kids play with chinese toys
you have chocolate made with african cacao
you have nespresso with ethiopian coffee
you tranfer money using indian e-banking
you get support from an irish or north african call center
you can finally sleep under egyptian cotton made sheets
you turn off the light coming from a plant fed with russian gaz or nigerian uranium

think about me.

Mr Officer don't tell me now you don't like foreigners.
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I am so sorry for your troubles but it does say when you leave (at least the Basel airport) that all counterfeit goods will be confiscated and destroyed and you could be prosecuted...
Thanks Angela_74 but i never saw this in GVA airport!
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The only thing I took away from this story is : why would anyone pay 1000 CHF for a bag????
This is why one cannot live with a salary under 120 000 CHF
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The problem is these are not always fakes, they are simply copies from the same production runs. With a watch and a serial number the copy can easily be picked up; but maybe you buy a bag in Zürich for Fr 1'000 and then get stopped returning from Asia a week later. How can you prove it is not a fake? You will in future have to carry all the receipts for all the stuff you have bought in Switzerland with you when you travel abroad.
The real ones have security codes and blind stamps in them allowing an experienced person to determin whether they are real or not. I beleive also some of them now have hiiden micro-chips allowing scanning to check on the origin.

By the way, you don't get much LV bag for Chf 1k and the "cheapest" Hermes Birkin is now around Chf 10k.
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This is why one cannot live with a salary under 120 000 CHF
To buy 120 of them?
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