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Re: My fake Louis Vuitton contraband was seized at Geneva Airport's Customs

oh my god.. hard to believe... Now i'm going to check the sham possibility of all the gifts my friends give me....
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Old 27.02.2011, 02:57
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No. And he's a very faithful man too .



Both! Odd thing is about 10 years ago he went through customs with his girlfriend- they were separated by a dozen people or so, and the customs guys pulled both out of the group, and only them. Pheromones? Mystery.
No mystery at all. Policemen and customs officials in courses are instructed about methods how to "see" people belonging together. Heard that from chaps of both forces. "Target success" ? Difficult to guess.
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Old 27.02.2011, 03:11
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When I was in Turkey last year I wanted to buy something for my son, but EVERYTHING on sale, that he would like was, after seeing the price, an obvious fake!

As I mentioned earlier, I bought the Tommy Hilfiger shirt for my son at a market, it was about CHF 10 , and I cut the inside label out (This showed the Hilfiger brand name, the size etc.)

When I arrived at Basel I went through the red channel and showed them the shirt. This is wise, as technically I had not imported the shirt yet, and would not be fined but I risked confiscation. The customs officer explained that removing the label wasn't enough, I would have to cut out the motif by the left nipple and that would leave a hole in the shirt. Anyway she said that as I was honest this time I could keep the shirt.

You might be wondering how these fakes are made so cheaply. The answer is the factories in the third world make say 100,000 shirts for Hilfiger. Then on the night shift they make another 50,000 and sell these as fakes. So the difference in pricing is mainly the profit the brand names are making. Which fool pays Fr 1,000 for a Fr 30 bag? Not me!
Many producers in the "Third World" simply lack self-confidence. With the abilities they have they could or rather CAN launch a name of themselves even if copying known brands. Or slightly distort the name (Haag > Zaun & Rivella > Mivella) and you have it. I have bought jeans in Turkish-Nicosia and in Cairo of local trademarks but whose original design was obvious. The advantages to me were
- my size far more than the "original"
- only about CHF 15.-- the price
- only about CHF 5.-- the price of adjusting
- a really good and nice service
The production of those fakes in many cases may be short term gain but is wasted energy, EXCEPT of course that there even in modern days are trademark-hungry customers to serve
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Old 27.02.2011, 03:28
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I'm sure there is some prejudice in their selection process, but a friend of mine get's stopped and searched almost everytime he flies internationally regardless of where to or from: he's tall, blond, blue eyed, always neat as a pin and very clean, doesn't drink or smoke, taxes paid up and money in the bank, says yes ma'am and no sir- he's the model citizen in every way. Must be a twinkle in his eye. Or maybe he looks at the customs guys a certain way. Who knows.
His bad luck is that he according to your description is a model of THE professional smuggler, smuggler of valuable stuff of course
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Last but not Least! Louis Vuitton is making money from the people who buy their goods, AND from the people who DON'T!!!

I paid LV twice!
your second payment does NOT go to LV but to CH
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Not just only the ladies on Langstrasse. Lots of younger ladies (late teens it seems) seem to be sporting fake LVs and Guccis here in Zurich too.

I've seen so many around and it irritates the daylights out of me. My husband calls me a sniffer dog for fake goods. I can spot one quite quickly and when I do, I have this insane desire to go up to them and rip those fakes apart.
Cannot tell you about LV, but Gucci has a station right on the border, and another one in the Bonded Warehouse in Cadenazzo. And refuses to hand out any certificates that their stuff is of Italian origin ! Even in case of export shipments to overseas. Which says enough .....................
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Old 27.02.2011, 04:17
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Sure. They made pretty much all tank engines of the Wehrmacht.

And the company belongs since 1960 to which group? Who builds today "Maybach" cars?...
All true, but where is the problem
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Dear DB, if you are find this thread so odious then why can you not resist peeking from time to time?

Go and have a large Scotch on the rocks and put your feet up
Ever heard of voyeurs ? beside the point that Scotch WITHOUT rocks is not only more enjoyable but in fact also healthier
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Many producers in the "Third World" simply lack self-confidence. With the abilities they have they could or rather CAN launch a name of themselves even if copying known brands. Or slightly distort the name (Haag > Zaun & Rivella > Mivella) and you have it. I have bought jeans in Turkish-Nicosia and in Cairo of local trademarks but whose original design was obvious. The advantages to me were
- my size far more than the "original"
- only about CHF 15.-- the price
- only about CHF 5.-- the price of adjusting
- a really good and nice service
The production of those fakes in many cases may be short term gain but is wasted energy, EXCEPT of course that there even in modern days are trademark-hungry customers to serve
Sorry Wolli, can't agree with you on that.

Producing copies have nothing to do with self-confidence but with cost only. It is much cheaper to produce something that already existe than to pay a Designer, a Stylist and a Pattern Maker to do everything from scratch.

They sell those copies because this is the price people are ready to pay for. If they produce their own design the cost is much higher and the % of possible customer drop dramatically. For many years Turkey was able to do just that, copies.

But since 10-15 years you have now many designers who came into the markets and made their own brands (Thanks partly to myself ). But those Designers are able to make it because they have their family in the industry or they have a bunch of cash to back them up. Are they successful? Certainly, you can hear big Turkish names now in Fashion weeks around the world. Are they numerous of them? Nope, it is too expensive and too few customer can afford them.

Do you think Zara, Mango, H&M are doing originals? Hell no!

They go to Big designers stores, pick up clothes, go into the changing room and draw, photograph the designs. They go back to their office and make the copies of the designer clothes with some little changes. Much cheaper to do it like this. And this is why it is the same clothes in every single stores, brand, etc...

Real Designers are very rare nowadays and thanks to the market (not the self-confidence).
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Sure. They made pretty much all tank engines of the Wehrmacht.
Thomas the Tank Engine spent the entire war period on the Island of Sodor an never had anything to do with the Wehrmacht.

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And the company belongs since 1960 to which group? Who builds today "Maybach" cars?...
Correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I can see, for Daimler Benz, Maybach is just a high-end brand name. There is nothing left of the old Maybach company besides the name AFAIK.

Daimler Benz has traditionally entertained the opinion that they know everything better than anybody else (in many cases this wasn't just conceit as they did know better and in many fields were simply unbeatable). So when taking over rivals it was mostly only to close them down and absorb the market share. If that company happened to have a legendary brand name they were also smart enough not to throw that into the trash, but that's sbout where their appreciation of anybody else's achievements stopped.

Kässbohrer is little more than a label these days, for example.

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oh my god.. hard to believe... Now i'm going to check the sham possibility of all the gifts my friends give me....

Well be careful, no crystal allowed! ONly Diamonds!!
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Re: My fake Louis Vuitton contraband was seized at Geneva Airport's Customs

Well we went too far away from the original subject, so I suggest dear EF Administrators, please go ahead and close the thread!!

Thanks you all for your efforts!
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Old 27.02.2011, 20:27
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Producing copies have nothing to do with self-confidence but with cost only. It is much cheaper to produce something that already existe than to pay a Designer, a Stylist and a Pattern Maker to do everything from scratch.
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I do not mean that they should or DO pay a designer. I mean that they can copy an existing product and re-launch it under their own name, possibly with a tiny alteration. Many in fact do it both ways, they produce an exact copycat including copied trademark for the highprice-segment and a slightly changed version under their own name, sold at minimal price, for the main-street market

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They sell those copies because this is the price people are ready to pay for. If they produce their own design the cost is much higher and the % of possible customer drop dramatically. For many years Turkey was able to do just that, copies.
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unfortunately, many people are almost obsessed with trademarks.

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But since 10-15 years you have now many designers who came into the markets and made their own brands (Thanks partly to myself ). But those Designers are able to make it because they have their family in the industry or they have a bunch of cash to back them up. Are they successful? Certainly, you can hear big Turkish names now in Fashion weeks around the world. Are they numerous of them? Nope, it is too expensive and too few customer can afford them.
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The new trademarks I mean do not produce expensive but low-priced products. Look at C&A and also H&M and you will see low-price trademarks on offer.

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Do you think Zara, Mango, H&M are doing originals? Hell no!
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No, otherwise you could not see the same originals at Jelmoli for CHF 140.-- instead of CHF 45.--

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They go to Big designers stores, pick up clothes, go into the changing room and draw, photograph the designs. They go back to their office and make the copies of the designer clothes with some little changes. Much cheaper to do it like this. And this is why it is the same clothes in every single stores, brand, etc...
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Sure, this is how the Japanese after WWII built up their photographic industry

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Real Designers are very rare nowadays and thanks to the market (not the self-confidence).
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Sorry, I did NOT mean "real" designers, I meant REAL marketing people
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Old 27.02.2011, 20:29
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Well we went too far away from the original subject, so I suggest dear EF Administrators, please go ahead and close the thread!!

Thanks you all for your efforts!
alright, but I hope you now have realized that the original producers of watches, bags etc shoot back and are supported by the law, and in effect by the authorities
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Re: My fake Louis Vuitton contraband was seized at Geneva Airport's Customs

I always get a huge laugh out of threads like this.

People are so lame.

Whiny voice: 'I did something wrong and got caught, so can someone please agree with me so I can reclaim my bruised ego?'

Hilarious.

Well, it IS a complaints sub-forum.

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I always get a huge laugh out of threads like this.

People are so lame.

Whiny voice: 'I did something wrong and got caught, so can someone please agree with me so I can reclaim my bruised ego?'

Hilarious.

Well, it IS a complaints sub-forum.

Calling other people of this forum lame makes you feel big isn't it? You believe that you are better than they are?
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Calling other people of this forum lame makes you feel big isn't it? You believe that you are better than they are?
He probably is, but it's impolite to laugh at one's lessers.
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I always get a huge laugh out of threads like this.

People are so lame.

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Please God, forgive us.
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Re: My fake Louis Vuitton contraband was seized at Geneva Airport's Customs

People with class tend to wear things with no labels, but still stylish. Wonder how all the others chasing for 'LV' fail to notice?

Anytime I see a bag with that logo, I associate a turkish cleaning lady trying to be somebody.
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To those that ask why people pay that sort of money for a bag? I don't understand it either, but then they might not understand why I paid the best part of a grand for an iPad.
Dahling, the genuine article will last you remaining either a classic or becoming a collectable; I've two Vuitton bags that date to when I was in High School (16-18 years old) and are still arm candy. They make Miss L-P swoon and give me bargaining power when she wants to use them. Whereas your iPad you bought in the last year is already obsolete with the iPad2 coming out in one week. Whose grand was a better investment?

Back ot; there has been a ton of press about bringing in counterfeits over the last few years and since the op knew she was going to be stopped... where was the surprise (as previously mentioned)?
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