If indeed it is so profitable and succsessful, why can't the guy just cash in his chips and leave. Surely he has enough money to pay for his girlfriends further education elsewhere ?

Maybe i'm missing sometihng in this thread?

LOL - some of us who learnt basic English at school then had to cope with cockney, and later Geordie, Scouse and Brummie- and we survived. Glaswegian was a bit of a challenge, but we got there (sort of).
Come on you Brits - you are not going to let a silly thread like this spoil your great British sense of humour - if you do, You've been here tooooo long.

Vent away, have a rant, take the mick - great. But living with hatred in your heart everyday is not good for you- only you will know when it's time to go.
over and out, nightie night, sleep tight.

But... but... the OP isn't British!

(in fact, very few of the contributors to this thread are actually British...)

Some dated threads for you:

You know you've been living in Switzerland too long when...

Too long in Die Schweiz ?

Living in Switzerland too long...

Well, seeing your place on your profile, it becomes clear. I mean, it is an area where also people from the Zürich-Schaffhausen etc area who do not speak true Baslerisch, will get treated as if having brought a "blizzard" with them !

And forget the "British gentleman" please. Employ African charm or Portuguese charm.

And most of all, try to acquire a real "Baaasel-Tiitsch" and then things will open up.

I btw. know a chap, also named "Markus", of Nigerian origin "ethnically" but a perfect Baaasler who speaks Baaslerisch as anybody, and apparently is fully accepted in Basel.

So, please, take it easy

Moving to the US especially SoCal will not exactly be a walk in the park in terms of opening and running a business. To open a bar, expect to pay high taxes, (California is the most unfriendly state in the US when it comes to small business tax conditions). You will also need to have a high US credit score to access any capital, as lending requirements are currently very strigent in California. (Swiss credit history cannot be substituted for US credit history to create a high credit score). Also, you will need a liquor license, to run an establishment that serves alcohol. Expect the bureaucratic run around when applying for this license ( you will wish you were back in Switzerland when confronted with the US bureaucratic apparatus). Expect extreme competition (there are bars everywhere in Cali), there are many businesses in California that open up and just don't make it. Above all, expect angry patrons who get drunk, yell and throw stuff around (you might find Swiss youths to have better manners than US youths). Also, in Cali everyone is broke, the economy is still in shambles and the workers you will hire will likely be unproductive and tired since they will be balancing two to three other jobs just to make ends meet. Thats if you can hire any workers that actually speak English and not exclusively Spanish. Finally, I realize you might have a picture of how the US was before 08' but after the crises, the business landscape in California has changed quite a bit from my understanding. The feeling you get is that more businesses are closing rather than opening. So before you rush over to the US, you should weigh your options carefully. Of course you could have had the expericence of opening and running a business in California and if that is the case you may know all this information already.

I think you exaggerate. If you look through the posts you can see people enjoying this and that, being in a nice place in Küssnacht/LU, having meetings at nice places, etc. In this case here, a frustrated chap fumes and gives free course to his emotions. No president has been murdered here lately, so that there is no reason for a frustrated bar owner to try to kill an accused killer

No, no, you don't understand, it was one of those above ground balconies.

Must be YOUR influence on them. I for ages met heaps of CH citizens who were heavily annoyed and displeased with their country.

You may ask whey then things do not change. But things DO change constantly, but in a place where right against left, one area or Canton against the other gets outbalanced, you have to push through changes step-by-step

At first I thought you were kidding, but then I see you posted this on another thread:

I Hate This, I Hate That...

Hate is not the same as complaints or criticisms. I don't think EF has gone that far.

Let the expats rant. In fact if some become so sure of themselves that the Swiss are so terrible, uneducated, uncultured, intolerant, etc., etc. then they actually look exactly like the caricature of the Swiss that they imagine.

Then the rest of us can have a laugh at their expense.

Back in 1982, during my first foray into Switzerland, I used to hang out with a Scot (in Zurich).

Problem was, I couldn't understand his English, so we spoke French for the first month or so.

Tom

The Scots speak English?

<ducks>

You see, beer in Italy only got into "swing" in the 1950ies, when "returnees" from "North-of-the-Alps-Europe" brought the idea with them and existing breweries expanded and new ones got established. Now of course there are things like


the nice Moretti











or















but, beers in the 1950ies and early 60ies were rather rare in Italian provinces like the Toscana, the Emilia Romagna, the Lombardia or the Liguria

I still remember when, in the mid60ies on the Toscanese coastline (Riviera della Versiglia) our fathers, Italian and Swiss alike, were drinking Peroni and we boys Oran-Soda or Lemon-Soda or some SanPellegrino Aranciata

Please could you post a copy of the complaint letter and any responses? I would be most interested in following this.

Lots of beer history in Alto-Adige!

I LOVE Forst!

Tom

Just wondered about the same ! I have no idea about his finances, but his place there should be splendid. He already spoke about leaving the place half a year ago. An option for him would be to open up a dependance in a more urban place, be it Strassburg, Colmar, Mulhouse, Basel, Zurich, Lugano, Milano, LaSpezia or Viareggio, move partially or fully to the second place and keep the Bulle place for commercial reasons

Alto-Adige is only "POST-1918-Italy" but in lots of way simply
SüD-TIROL

Whatcha gotta problem wit' muh Teksun aksiiint?

im ex glion hahahahaha .

but it isd true, the 10 percent of them ruin it for the rest of us, just like it is the other way around I guess. be sure to stop by

I have not posted for a while but I feel compelled to reply. I am a Swiss that has been in California for 20+ years.
I also think that the anything-Swiss bashing is out of control on this forum. I am a mod on a US forum, and we just don't see our role as adding to and encouraging the trashing of any group of people. I think that if you accept to become a mod Economisto, you do have to become more neutral and try to smooth things. You can't have it both ways.
And don't tell me that it is just wit and it is funny. I have seen many of you loose your cool when your own countries are attacked.

To the OP that wants to move to California: have you been to California since 2008?
You will be amazed by the red tape, the economy in shamble, the impossibility of borrowing money, the cost associated with opening a business, the competition, the scams you will be subjected to as a business owner, the lawsuits...

I wonder if your frustration has to do with your line of business. I always found bars pretty depressing in Switzerland.
Why don't you explore other options in the hospitality industry?