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Old 24.03.2011, 16:16
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Really? There used to be signs everywhere saying "switch of your lights" especially after tunnels; come to think of it I have not seen any for a while.
Fashions come & go I suppose
Are you sure that wasn't in France? I haven't seen such a sign in Switzerland in 10 years. Headlights, by the way, are compulsory when in tunnels in Switzerland.
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Old 24.03.2011, 16:23
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- I did something similar in Austria (wasn't aware that you have to have your lights on during day) -
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Is this the same for Switzerland too?

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Thats a tricky question and has been discussed quite a bit here. I think that someone posted the official law and it states that you should drive with the lights on but officially you don't have to. I guess since its not so clear, the enforceability is also dependent on situation and policeman.

Generally, i drive around town without the lights off, if I am going on the highway where i may be in a tunnel, i try to put them on
For car drivers there is no legal requirement to drive during daylight with your lights on unless you are in a tunnel. Motorcyclists are required by law to drive with their lights on at all times.
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Old 24.03.2011, 16:52
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I do not believe that this is the case in Switzerland. No discretion at all.

In the UK I have experienced rudeness, sarcasm, and sometimes comedy from various cops and often got away with my sins.

In Switzerland I find the police impeccably polite but they do you every time.
No, I have found some Swiss Police to behave with discretion; I think it depends in which part of the force they are. In Zurich the village Bobby equivalents (now disappearing fast) were very good but the mobile police who I believe are Kantonal are not at all flexible.
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Old 24.03.2011, 18:47
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No, I have found some Swiss Police to behave with discretion; I think it depends in which part of the force they are. In Zurich the village Bobby equivalents (now disappearing fast) were very good but the mobile police who I believe are Kantonal are not at all flexible.
I stand corrected - you are right. Our village bobby is exactly that type and is more advisory than punitive.

Take my comments to be aimed at the traffic cops may their seed fall on stony ground .
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Old 24.03.2011, 19:06
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No, it doesn't. 120 is for ten or over. I know, I have a collection of the lower ones.
Yes it does. OH paid 120chfs for going 7km above the limit
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Yes it does. OH paid 120chfs for going 7km above the limit
depens if "innerorts" or on a motorway.
http://www.linker.ch/eigenlink/verkehrsbussen.htm
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Old 24.03.2011, 19:43
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No, I have found some Swiss Police to behave with discretion; I think it depends in which part of the force they are. In Zurich the village Bobby equivalents (now disappearing fast) were very good but the mobile police who I believe are Kantonal are not at all flexible.
The other day on Langstrasse I observed somebody drive their car the wrong way down the one-way section using the bus lane. There was a police car coming the other way on the normal lane and I thought, this is going to be fun, but the police just ignored him. They were probably on the lookout for something else.
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Old 24.03.2011, 20:02
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i handed it over, and he started: you didnt use the indicator in that roundabout when you left it and you dont have a fastened seatbelt?!
You mentioned the US. Not using your blinkers would not get you stopped in California. People rarely use them ever and that is not enforced.
But it is more random. They can be extremely lenient if they feel like it but if you start arguing, it can get ugly and you can quickly get yourself in jail for the night.
I agree with you though. It is out of control in Switzerland. It didn't use to be that way 20+ years ago.
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Old 24.03.2011, 23:43
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You mentioned the US. Not using your blinkers would not get you stopped in California...
In Texas it depends on your locality (and their cash-flow). In one cash-strapped community, a local cop tried to saddle me with fines for "speeding" plus not using the blinker for the required 100 feet before changing lanes (Texas law actually says that, but nobody enforces it, except this guy!). I was so incensed that I fought both charges before a jury (of his peers), lost, then won on appeal.
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Old 25.03.2011, 02:37
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In Texas it depends on your locality (and their cash-flow). In one cash-strapped community, a local cop tried to saddle me with fines for "speeding" plus not using the blinker for the required 100 feet before changing lanes (Texas law actually says that, but nobody enforces it, except this guy!). I was so incensed that I fought both charges before a jury (of his peers), lost, then won on appeal.
I just have be informed by my mech.that the brake lights are not working,must be like that for a wile,If caught I Will argue in court that I din`t use the brake, and hope for the best
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Old 25.03.2011, 03:48
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What I find ridiculous are the speed traps on the Geneva Lausanne motorway every 3 miles. You see people doing 140-150km/h and stepping on the breaks every 3 miles. Absurd and dangerous especially for tourists that are not expecting other drivers to slow down so suddenly for no apparent reason.
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Old 25.03.2011, 04:12
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The other day on Langstrasse I observed somebody drive their car the wrong way down the one-way section using the bus lane. There was a police car coming the other way on the normal lane and I thought, this is going to be fun, but the police just ignored him. They were probably on the lookout for something else.
Some years back I travelled from the mountain boonies to Geneva with some friends to see a concert. At the end of the night it was clear the designated driver had forgotten his status and was stumbling about, so I got the job to drive back. Not knowing Geneva and no GPS in our bright yellow 1980 Renault I ended up on a section of road reserved just for trams . Lots of people laughing and pointing but somehow didn't cross paths with any cops.

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What I find ridiculous are the speed traps on the Geneva Lausanne motorway every 3 miles. You see people doing 140-150km/h and stepping on the breaks every 3 miles. Absurd and dangerous especially for tourists that are not expecting other drivers to slow down so suddenly for no apparent reason.
Yes, and even more irritating is cruising along at 120 and the dude in front of you sees the camera and stomps on the brakes even though he's going the speed limit . I wonder how many accidents are caused by 'camera panic', but I have a feeling we won't ever see any official reports on that.
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Old 25.03.2011, 04:22
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Yes, and even more irritating is cruising along at 120 and the dude in front of you sees the camera and stomps on the brakes even though he's going the speed limit . I wonder how many accidents are caused by 'camera panic', but I have a feeling we won't ever see any official reports on that.
Last time I was there one of the speed cameras was visibly malfunctioning and flashing every vehicle regardless of the speed. Total chaos. People were swerving out of their lanes, slowing down to 80km/h looking in their rearview mirrors etc...
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