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Old 22.03.2011, 10:09
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We love (your) Fränklies!

you know how it is with emotional letters, emails etc. take a day off before writing it..i did.. and still feel angry.

it is because on Monday morning i had to drive my GF to the airport in Basel. we stayed at a friens place in Basel and got up 4.30 am as her plane was leaving 6.30 am. i was up to this point always taking the train from Zurich but this time i had a friends car with Schwyzer plate. as dont know the way, i had my iphone handed over to my GF with the route on it. soon as we hit the route i noticed i can switch off the fon as the signs said how to go, but at one roundabout it wasnt clear. so a bit abruptly i steered into the right diversion. a copper car soon approached me saying: stop n take over. for some reason i dont know, maybe in the awaiting of being called out of the car or the freedom to reach for my papers i had loosen my seatbelt. ok, copper Ueli and training copper boy Beat popped by at my window n asked for papers n stuff.
i handed it over, and he started: you didnt use the indicator in that roundabout when you left it and you dont have a fastened seatbelt?!
i said: well, its 5.10 am in the morning, i am tired, i am not familiar with the city, i have to get the plane..and its no valid point but its no traffic going...so...the seatbelt i took off for inspection, just a reaction, dunno why...

he took papers, switched back n forth in his fine catalogue and gave me a 200 chf fine.

wtf? where is the common sense? why for once cant he say: ok, mate, normally i have to fine you, pay attention, use the bloody indicator and do not undo your setabelt before being asked. have a safe trip.

the indicator-incident...i do understand bits of it that he had to stop me. but the belt-thing...honestly...wtf?

to me this country is so anti-minded about cars, so faschist with its bloody rules...it is ridiculous...
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Old 22.03.2011, 10:13
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Don't groan this guy... Don't groan this guy....
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Old 22.03.2011, 10:14
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Re: We love (your) Fränklies!

Its just bad luck mate. Most likely the bloke they stopped before said all that to them so they were still fuming. Rozzers are rozzers all over the world, its at their discretion how difficult or lenient they want to be. Hard luck.
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Old 22.03.2011, 10:15
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Re: We love (your) Fränklies!

There are a few expressions that express the Swiss mentality. I'm going to try one on you:

Selber schuld.
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Old 22.03.2011, 10:26
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wtf? where is the common sense? why for once cant he say: ok, mate, normally i have to fine you, pay attention, use the bloody indicator and do not undo your setabelt before being asked. have a safe trip.
Because he had to reach a certain quota for the day, and you were already giving him 200 chf early in the morning.... He wouldn't miss it.



Sucks big time, sorry to hear that!
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Old 22.03.2011, 10:32
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There are a few expressions that express the Swiss mentality. I'm going to try one on you:

Selber schuld.
no no no! its not the i dont know i did something wrong!
it is that the circumstances could lead to the point of understanding
and a simple "dont do that again" wouldnt have done it.

you know...similar situation in the US: i crossed a red light and the cop was observing it. i saw the beacon, stopped, put the hands where he could see them and had the window already down n said: excuse me, officer, i noticed it but...he: your obviously foreign. please drive carefully and pay a bit more attention. safe trip.

whereas i was aware being tasered and got ready for face facing concrete...
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Old 22.03.2011, 10:33
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Re: We love (your) Fränklies!

In my experienca the chances of getting away with a telling off are inversely proportional to the number of infractions you simultanously accumulate
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Old 22.03.2011, 10:35
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In my experienca the chances of getting away with a telling off are inversely proportional to the number of infractions you simultanously accumulate
me or in general?
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Old 22.03.2011, 10:36
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Because he had to reach a certain quota for the day, and you were already giving him 200 chf early in the morning.... He wouldn't miss it.



Sucks big time, sorry to hear that!
precisely that! friggin quota!
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Old 22.03.2011, 10:45
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no no no! its not the i dont know i did something wrong!
it is that the circumstances could lead to the point of understanding
and a simple "dont do that again" wouldnt have done it.

you know...similar situation in the US: i crossed a red light and the cop was observing it. i saw the beacon, stopped, put the hands where he could see them and had the window already down n said: excuse me, officer, i noticed it but...he: your obviously foreign. please drive carefully and pay a bit more attention. safe trip.

whereas i was aware being tasered and got ready for face facing concrete...
There you go then. That was your "Good cop" to this "Bad cop" experience, good karma bad karma. On average you're doing alright.
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Old 22.03.2011, 10:47
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Re: We love (your) Fränklies!

I'd take the 200chf fine and letting off from the US copper, rather then let off by the swiss and tazered by the yank any day
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Old 22.03.2011, 10:51
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precisely that! friggin quota!

no different from most other countries now
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Old 22.03.2011, 10:51
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Re: We love (your) Fränklies!

Sorry I beg to differ, are you saying he should have left you without fine for not having seat belts?

Time of the day is really not important, your assumption that you won't be caught at 5 am was wrong!

This to me is like travelling without ticket at 5AM and assuming there would be no checks

You know they have special “nightly” tickets for trains and special checks/frequent checks are done on that , again proves that Time of the day is not important in Switzerland

Just plain bad luck though
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Old 22.03.2011, 11:05
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Sorry I beg to differ, are you saying he should have left you without fine for not having seat belts?

Time of the day is really not important, your assumption that you won't be caught at 5 am was wrong!

This to me is like travelling without ticket at 5AM and assuming there would be no checks

You know they have special “nightly” tickets for trains and special checks/frequent checks are done on that , again proves that Time of the day is not important in Switzerland

Just plain bad luck though
He had his seat belt on when he was asked to pull on the side. He took it off when he got his papers (right?) So the officer didn't see him driving without a seat belt...
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Old 22.03.2011, 11:14
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Yea but from "his" point of view, he found him without seatbelt
he started: you didnt use the indicator in that roundabout when you left it and you dont have a fastened seatbelt?!
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Old 22.03.2011, 11:14
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Sorry I beg to differ, are you saying he should have left you without fine for not having seat belts?

Time of the day is really not important, your assumption that you won't be caught at 5 am was wrong!

This to me is like travelling without ticket at 5AM and assuming there would be no checks

You know they have special “nightly” tickets for trains and special checks/frequent checks are done on that , again proves that Time of the day is not important in Switzerland

Just plain bad luck though
the point is: i had a seatbelt while driving!!!!! i just took it off, for what ever reason ever, stupid reaction, as i was standing!
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Old 22.03.2011, 11:18
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Yea but from "his" point of view, he found him without seatbelt
he started: you didnt use the indicator in that roundabout when you left it and you dont have a fastened seatbelt?!
If plod stopped every driver that didn`t indicate when he exited the roundabout, he would literally be there all day. In fact I don`t reckon that failure to indicate is a transgression of the Highway Code. Therefore it was punitive, and therefore the OP has a right to be peed off.
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Old 22.03.2011, 11:18
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the point is: i had a seatbelt while driving!!!!! i just took it off, for what ever reason ever, stupid reaction, as i was standing!

I had bad cop / embarrassed cop in the uk, caught bang to rights speeding, bad cop starts lecturing me, really going for it totally OTT, embarrassed cop just sat there with a look of "oh god she's off again"

£640 and a load of points (but I did deserve it)

look on the bright side, you made that coppers day, now he can go easy on others later on as he'll make his quoter early
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Old 22.03.2011, 11:28
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tbhonest, i had some good karma moments with cops as well. me and my CH-GF were driving in Germany, A9 Munich to Berlin. there is one part before you get on the A110 lowered to 120kmh and i was speeding 160kmh. between two lorries was a copper car. he saw me zooming by n got me to pull over. he gave me a 10 min lecture about the danger of this part of the road...and let me go. simply he had no evidence how fast i was going. my GF and her sister sat there with staring eyes n open mouth n said: THAT IS ALL?????? and i was like: yeah?! (note: at this point i wasnt living here, so i didnt understand their fuss...hahahaha)
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Old 22.03.2011, 11:30
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Re: We love (your) Fränklies!

Thanks to EF it has now been confirmed that replies like "I was too tired/sleepy/distracted to follow the rules when driving" or in other cases, "I was driving too fast to see the speed signs", that some other people have tried to use, are generally not considered acceptable excuses.
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