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27.03.2011 18:46

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Originally Posted by iain075 (Post 1149417)
Is this something to do with the modern mind-set?

It's a lot to do with the modern lifestyle. In times gone by, there'd be family units. In these family units, it was the mother's/wife's/daughter's job to cook and serve. It was the father's/husband's/son's job to earn the money.


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Originally Posted by iain075 (Post 1149417)
Shopping 24/7/365 is an utterly dreadful idea.

Although you understand that if it occurred, neither the shop assistants or the patrons would be there 24/7, they'd just have the option to be.


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I know one of our days off a weekend is shop-free, but lordy, do it on a Saturday if you must! I know it's inconvenient, but really what does one *need* to have on a Sunday?
Nothing, but that's the problem with "need". My mother and brother were at the suit hire shop today, for a wedding. Sunday is a family day, which is how they were both in the same place at the same time, so after lunch they took 40 minutes out of their day to do an errand. They believe that retail and service industries should work around paying customers, not the other way around. They are clearly insane however.



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Too much pace, not enough loafing for my liking.
I want to loaf too! In fact I demand it. But because my OH isn't an 1850s lass, she just refuses to fetch and carry for me. I'd like to pay someone to do it, but no one in this country wants the job. Again, I used to live in Spain and had an awesome time sitting on a terrace for the entire Sunday, eating seafood, drinking quality wine, watching the sea and getting a tan. This isn't possible here (not just the tan and the sea mind). Guess I'll have to make dinner now :(

nic80 27.03.2011 18:57

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Originally Posted by economisto (Post 1149425)
I used to live in Spain and had an awesome time sitting on a terrace for the entire Sunday, eating seafood, drinking quality wine, watching the sea and getting a tan. This isn't possible here (not just the tan and the sea mind). Guess I'll have to make dinner now :(

Step 1: Pack bag for Spain
Step 2: Tell husband he's in for a hell of a commute to work :D

Unless someone wants to save me the trouble and build a restaurant with enormous terrace and good food on the lake?:rolleyes:

27.03.2011 19:01

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Originally Posted by nic80 (Post 1149434)
Step 1: Pack bag for Spain
Step 2: Tell husband he's in for a hell of a commute to work :D

Unless someone wants to save me the trouble and build a restaurant with enormous terrace and good food on the lake?:rolleyes:

I'm sure you could get it somewhere in Switzerland. Probably, if experience tells me, adjoining one 5 star hotel or other, white tablecloths, moody waiters and 150chfs a head (well, it is a Sunday). I gave the example of Spain but in London we used to retire to the Spaniards Inn after a long walk across the Heath with a roaring fire in winter and a large garden and BBQ in the summer.

These things aren't rare or a product of Western-centric mindsets or modernity. They're basic, and by me at least, they're missed.

nic80 27.03.2011 19:09

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Originally Posted by economisto (Post 1149439)
I'm sure you could get it somewhere in Switzerland. Probably, if experience tells me, adjoining one 5 star hotel or other, white tablecloths, moody waiters and 150chfs a head (well, it is a Sunday). I gave the example of Spain but in London we used to retire to the Spaniards Inn after a long walk across the Heath with a roaring fire in winter and a large garden and BBQ in the summer.

These things aren't rare or a product of Western-centric mindsets or modernity. They're basic, and by me at least, they're missed.

Its available in Lausanne if you're willing to spend a fortune eating at Chateau d'Ouchy or the Hotel Angleterre.

Ours used to be Hugos http://www.contempofurniture.com.au/...s/c2ev7859.jpg

If only someone would create one here and add a fireplace for winter, you'd have to pry me out with a crowbar (or just start charging me rent :D)

lilith 27.03.2011 19:14

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Originally Posted by nic80 (Post 1149434)
Step 1: Pack bag for Spain
Step 2: Tell husband he's in for a hell of a commute to work :D

Unless someone wants to save me the trouble and build a restaurant with enormous terrace and good food on the lake?:rolleyes:

... one??? just one???? http://www.barontavernier.com/index....ge=deck&chap=0http://www.barontavernier.ch/images/galeries/deck_2.jpg
http://www.barontavernier.ch/images/galeries/deck_4.jpg

27.03.2011 19:16

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Sundays are usually cool for me but I live right next to a graveyard & loads of people here have been dyin' for the last 2 months so I have to be quiet.

My usual kick-around with the kids in the street (including mine) would be too noisy in my view so I can't wait until .... um ... there aren't too many funerals.

nic80 27.03.2011 19:16

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Originally Posted by lilith (Post 1149451)

I was told about this place just last week. I'm considering buying a car just so I can get there :) ;) and it's only 5 days until it opens (not that I'm counting)

Suisse2008 27.03.2011 19:19

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Some people might say that if shops were open on Sunday, then one would at least have the choice of shopping or taking a day off. I'm not sure if it works out that way. Firstly, the staff have to work so there is no choice for them. Secondly, the competitive pressure to open on Sunday will spread (more shops open). Eventually Sunday will become another day like any other day and it will be 7/7 shopping. I saw this happen in the UK when Sunday trading was allowed in 1994. The lifestyle changed and now the UK seems much more like the US or Asia.

I much prefer the Sundays here!

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Originally Posted by nic80 (Post 1149414)
The museums are usually open, you could catch a train to a random place for a festival (Geneva has a chocolate festival on next weekend)

A word of warning if anyone is coming to Geneva, the Festival du Chocolat is actually taking place in Versoix (several train stops before Geneva).

Guest 27.03.2011 19:23

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Originally Posted by iain075 (Post 1149417)
Shopping 24/7/365 is an utterly dreadful idea.

I rather like the idea - especially when we're in the UK - because then I can actively choose all by myself not to shop on a Sunday, rather than be told by someone else that I'm not allowed to shop on a Sunday under any circumstances.

That Sunday morning conversation in full:
What shall we do today?

We could go shopping...

Yes. We could...

Or we could go and sit on the boat, and enjoy the nice weather.

That sounds like a much better idea. Let's do that.

Righty-ho! We could even take her out for a sail.

Yes, indeed. That's also a possibility.

We could do with some more tonic water, fresh limes and a big bag of icecubes.

No problem. We'll stop off at Morrison's on the way past.

Good idea. We're a bit low on beer, too, since the crew's celebration after Wednesday's race win.

So sometimes it's ok to "shop on a Sunday"?

Yes, unless you're prepared to sip warm, neat gin with a squirt of Jiff lemon in it. We can also a nice variety of tapas, if you like.

Oh, I do like Sunday shopping - shall we go now?

Yus indeedy-doody, Sundays can be hell-on-legs :msnshock:

st2lemans 27.03.2011 19:26

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Here, restaurants are all open on Sunday, it's Monday that they are mostly closed.

Tom

lilith 27.03.2011 20:07

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Originally Posted by nic80 (Post 1149455)
I was told about this place just last week. I'm considering buying a car just so I can get there :) ;) and it's only 5 days until it opens (not that I'm counting)

Best deal is to go there for drinks. Food is nice, not exceptional. A touch overpriced (but you live here, you know how it is in the lavaux...).

But, at sunset, sitting there and slurping a couple of drinks is unbeatable. :))))

kodezero 27.03.2011 20:31

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Originally Posted by iain075 (Post 1149417)
Is this something to do with the modern mind-set?

That it's very difficult for people to feel satisfied unless something is going on, or they're able to purchase non essentials from shops, or some assault on the senses is occurring, is, I think, a shame.

When I was a lad growing up in the UK, there was nothing happening on Sundays, at all. I remember at the time loathing it on occasion. Not to preach you understand, but I think it's essential that there are days, times, when things are *not* happening, and that you have to mentally fend for yourself.

I personally think it's great that over here it's the same.

Shopping 24/7/365 is an utterly dreadful idea. I know one of our days off a weekend is shop-free, but lordy, do it on a Saturday if you must! I know it's inconvenient, but really what does one *need* to have on a Sunday?

This isn't a pop at anyone at all (honest), my point of view rather is that a bit of peace, if it has to be enforced (and remember the service industry people actually have a semblance of a weekend with Sunday off) then all the better.

Too much pace, not enough loafing for my liking.

On that bombshell, I'm going to sit outside on the balcony for a moment and have a little think, walked for bleeding miles today and it's well earned I reckon.

Personally I couldn't care less if shops were closed Monday through Friday. But I find it difficult to comprehend how a place could not have shops open on Sundays.

27.03.2011 20:59

Re: Sundays
 
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Originally Posted by Suisse2008 (Post 1149457)

A word of warning if anyone is coming to Geneva, the Festival du Chocolat is actually taking place in Versoix (several train stops before Geneva).

please, have a look to the social events section, about it.

araqyl 27.03.2011 21:20

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Yes, we have to have shops all open on Sunday, we can't possibly survive one day without the shops being open!! :eek:

Nil 27.03.2011 21:29

Re: Sundays
 
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Originally Posted by araqyl (Post 1149564)
Yes, we have to have shops all open on Sunday, we can't possibly survive one day without the shops being open!! :eek:

I don't think it is the point.

If you want to enjoy a nice meal out with friends, do your shopping and appointment at the hair dresser, sometimes saturdays are the only possible day to do so. And to fit all those tasks in the same saturday is very difficult if not impossible. It makes your saturday completely crazy, rushing and running around with all the other people in the same situation who are getting impatient and angry because of the traffic, the lines up, the waiting, the lack of time, etc.

If you can split some of those tasks in two days, it makes less people on the road the same day, less people in the stores the same day, etc.

The stores were open in Basel today.... Like everytime they open on sunday, it was super crowded. Who are those people? Can't be just foreigners... They are swiss! So apparently many do enjoy the sunday shops opening ;)

blackbird 27.03.2011 21:38

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Railcitys like Zurich HB or Basel SBB are open 7 days a week, shops at a station(like Zurich Stadelhofen or Enge) ar open aswell on Sundays and not to be forgotten the Shops at the Airport are open 7 Days a Week .
Should be enough for those in need to do shopping on Sundays.......

nickatbasel 27.03.2011 21:52

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Yeah, but Migros in Basel SBB on a Sunday is like a Soviet supermarket on the day a new consignment of cabbages arrives.

Cheers,
Nick

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Originally Posted by blackbird (Post 1149581)
Railcitys like Zurich HB or Basel SBB are open 7 days a week, shops at a station(like Zurich Stadelhofen or Enge) ar open aswell on Sundays and not to be forgotten the Shops at the Airport are open 7 Days a Week .
Should be enough for those in need to do shopping on Sundays.......


Wollishofener 27.03.2011 22:00

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Originally Posted by english_girl (Post 1149116)
is it just me or do you really not love switzerland on sundays, there's never anything todo, and all the shops are closed -_- thats where it should bemore like enlgand. :)

Just to have it mentioned, I remember a London, where all shops were closed on Sunday (for example autumn 1972). I remember a London when only some "ethnic" (Arab, Indian, Chinese) shops were open on Sunday. And this was up into the 1990ies. Most shocking was that pubs outside downtown already closed at 11pm while midnight had been closing time in Zurich since WWII . And nights. When you in places like Athens and Paris could eat out almost throughout the night, London was fast asleep.

I at the other hand remember when the first full service shop, the Coop in Basel across from Basel-SBB became open on all Sundays. And I remember the complicated struggle of the shops to have open at the rail-stations HB, Enge and Stadelhofen. And I remember those times at Zurich-Airport when the only shops open landside were the news-shop and the pharmacy. In the 70ies and 80ies, petrol stations here only sold motor-car related stuff and some chocolates.

Liberalisations need time, lots of time. And even more time in rural areas.

27.03.2011 22:04

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I spent the afternoon at a house (=caravan) warming party in Avenches near Murten.

Two of the Alphorn players are brothers, and both are farmers in Kerzers,
5 years ago I took them and their families on a holiday in Derbyshire.

Wollishofener 27.03.2011 22:04

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Originally Posted by stephen_NE (Post 1149120)
Sundays in Switzerland are for going to the mountains.

I hate Saturdays, because I have to shop :)

and for going to the lake(s), particularily between May and September. More so if the weather is acceptable. If not you rather go downtown, take a seat in a café (Odeon for example, or another one all along the Limmatquai), and enjoy life ! :)


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