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They don't offer it, but there's no reason why they can't comply with a polite request.

Telling them what will happen to me if I ingest bread usually does the trick...
Its a shame that they don't offer alternatives. I don't think my German is up to par to be able to ask for alternatives xD.

LOL, what exactly do you tell them xD.
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Its a shame that they don't offer alternatives. I don't think my German is up to par to be able to ask for alternatives xD.
Entschuldigung, ich kann kein Brot essen. Darf ich Gschwelti statt Brot haben, bitte?

Excuse me, I cannot eat bread. May I have boiled potatoes instead of bread, please?

(You might want to run that past a native speaker, though)
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Entschuldigung, ich kann kein Brot essen. Darf ich Gschwelti statt Brot haben, bitte?

Excuse me, I cannot eat bread. May I have boiled potatoes instead of bread, please?

(You might want to run that past a native speaker, though)
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Old 30.03.2011, 14:18
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They don't.

At least not in my experience...
Chicken/fish nuggets are also nice to dip.

Also, I generally chop up fresh chiles, garlic, and onions to dip my cheese-coated bread in before eating, and of course a small cup of Kirsch to dip the bread in before immersing it in the fondue.

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Chicken/fish nuggets are also nice to dip.

Also, I generally chop up fresh chiles, garlic, and onions to dip my cheese-coated bread in before eating, and of course a small cup of Kirsch to dip the beard in before immersing it in the fondue.

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Does your wife enjoy licking it clean then? Now there's a thought... how about... oh never mind.
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I generally use several different types of bread (olive, but, etc.).

Tom
Yeah, this and the small potatoes idea isn't bad. But from what I understand, the reason the Swiss stick with white bread is exactly because it's tasteless, they want to taste the cheese as much as possible. Anything with too much auxiliary taste can dilute the taste of the cheese. If you've shelled out on high quality cheese from the local Fromager, it's better to stick with plain bread to get all the flavor.
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Its a shame that they don't offer alternatives. I don't think my German is up to par to be able to ask for alternatives xD.

LOL, what exactly do you tell them xD.
Simply ask for a Gemuseteller, a vegetable platter, to be brought with the fondue (rather than as an appetizer). Then sit back and watch the perplexed reaction as you dip your veggies in the cheese pot.


Years ago we used to go to a Fonduestube in Männedorf that served a number of non-traditional fondues. I was particularly fond of their Calvados fondue with apples for dipping - sheer cheesy heaven.

(Sadly, the restaurant has changed hands and the Fonduestube is no more...)
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Re: Minor rant about fondue

Although admittedly there are no bounds to the imagination as to what can actually be served in / on / around a fondue, just for the OP's info: originally fondue was most definately a very poor and basic meal: whatever type of cheese was around melted and then served with chunks of stale bread dipped into said cheese to make it edible.

It only really became popular in the 1950s thanks to intensive marketing of the Swiss Cheese Union (o.k., I'm taking off my Wolli-hat now)
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Yeah, this and the small potatoes idea isn't bad. But from what I understand, the reason the Swiss stick with white bread is exactly because it's tasteless, they want to taste the cheese as much as possible. Anything with too much auxiliary taste can dilute the taste of the cheese. If you've shelled out on high quality cheese from the local Fromager, it's better to stick with plain bread to get all the flavor.
As I use a mix of extra aged Gruyere, Vacherin, and Appenzeller, NO bread (nor even the chiles) can overpower the taste of the cheese!

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Old 30.03.2011, 14:46
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Ah, didn't realize they also offered alternatives. All the times I went on group outings and whatnot, it seemed to be only bread they served with, I'll have to keep that in mind the next time I go and have fondue.
Depends on where you go. Les Armures in the old town of Geneva offers fondue with mushrooms, fondue with tomatoes, etc.
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I hate fondue and have declared that I will never eat it again in my lifetime.... but this might just change my mind .
Me too. I am, by default, not into hot cheese and hot wine because of the smell, but nicky's idea sounds awesome. You could make longer kebabs with bread, frozen ketchup cube, onion, gerkin, bread. Then dip in hot cheese. I will try this and report back.
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Depends on where you go. Les Armures in the old town of Geneva offers fondue with mushrooms, fondue with tomatoes, etc.
Yes, but that's IN the fondue itself, and not for dipping in it, no?

That said, it is very nice with porcini in it (first had it that way 20+ years ago in Annecy)

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Chicken/fish nuggets are also nice to dip.
You've just triggered a fish finger / fondue related fantasy.

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Does your wife enjoy licking it clean then?
Does she? Does she? Oooooooh. Suit you sir.
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Re: Minor rant about fondue

Some restaurants do now offer potatoes as an alternative to bread but as DB says just ask and you will probably receive!
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Old 30.03.2011, 15:20
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Me too. I am, by default, not into hot cheese and hot wine because of the smell, but nicky's idea sounds awesome. You could make longer kebabs with bread, frozen ketchup cube, onion, gerkin, bread. Then dip in hot cheese. I will try this and report back.
You are taking it to a whole new level now!

By the way my husbands to thank for this invention, he is a lover of cheese burgers although his is sans gherkin
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Re: Minor rant about fondue

I truly believe that the bread serves as a tool only in order to scoop up as much cheese as possible
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I truly believe that the bread serves as a tool only in order to scoop up as much cheese as possible
And garlic (generally, I use a whole head).

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My Swiss wife likes fresh pineapple chunks with her fondue. But she is a bit weird.

I sell Isle of Mull cheddar to make a "Scottish Fondue" (with black beer and whisky) and I suggest eating it with baby potatoes, carrot sticks and small heads of broccoli and cauliflower that have been par-boiled then roasted. Many of my Swiss customers now eat their own fondue with vegetables cooked like this.
Grumpygrapefruit that is the best suggestion for fondue i have ever seen. When are you organising a fondue ?
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Re: Minor rant about fondue

We ordered fondue in Gruyere and were surprised when the wicker basket had boiled potatoes instead of bread. We thought they made a mistake but were happy not to have the bread.

The best fondue I've had in a restaurant was in Brugge, Belgium. The cheese fondue was served with a plate of cured meats, a salad and fritte (of course). We loved 'cheesy fries' and wrapping a bit of prosciutto or salami around the bread then dipping it all into the cheese. The salad was safe from being drowned in cheese. The first time we had fondue in Switzerland we were disappointed in comparison because all we had was cheese and bread.
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Grumpygrapefruit that is the best suggestion for fondue i have ever seen. When are you organising a fondue ?
Next winter we really will try to organise a Rappi Bier Scottish Fondue evening.
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