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I received a bill that I didn't commit

I received a bill from MBC or a bus company in Morges (by the way, I'm from Geneva) indicating that I owe them 140chf for not paying for the bus ticket, and another 100chf for false address in January this year, they sent it over my mother's work place which really pissed me off. At first I ignored it because it was a clearly a joke to pay for something I did not do, or maybe they might've mistaken for another name. Then just this now I received another bill, with much higher cost. So then I called the company and asked for explanations. I asked them, what did ''I'' (this person) showed as an identification document or any ID's, because for sure, if you get caught, you must show an ID or any document. They just told me to wait for a call to clear things up. The question running to my mind now is how can they ticket a person without showing any ID's, if I've really done it, I could've chosen a different name. What kind of system is that?
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Old 01.04.2011, 14:37
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Re: I received a bill that I didn't commit

Did you ride the bus without a ticket?

If you did, pay up. The fines are not going to get any cheaper the longer you wait. They obviously found you, doesn't really matter how they did at this point, does it?
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Old 01.04.2011, 14:39
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how did they get your mother's work place address ?
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Did you ride the bus without a ticket?

If you did, pay up. The fines are not going to get any cheaper the longer you wait. They obviously found you, doesn't really matter how they did at this point, does it?
If you read what i've just posted, i did not. I've never taken a bus in morges, went to morges 1 time and that by car.
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Old 01.04.2011, 14:41
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Re: I received a bill that I didn't commit

Can you prove where you were that day? A timesheet from work for example? It might help if you can show that you were nowhere in the area
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how did they get your mother's work place address ?
clearly, it's my surname written but wrong first name, they must've traced the surname and immediately sent over my mom's place
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If you read what i've just posted, i did not. I've never taken a bus in morges, went to morges 1 time and that by car.
Did your mother?
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Can you prove where you were that day? A timesheet from work for example? It might help if you can show that you were nowhere in the area
no i don't think i have that, but what i really want to know is, which type of document did this person showed.
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clearly, it's my surname written but wrong first name, they must've traced the surname and immediately sent over my mom's place
So there's somebody else with your surname in Morges......
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Did your mother?
no, she had never been there, plus the first name is all wrong
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Re: I received a bill that I didn't commit

I always thought you have to give an ID. I show how they ask people for ID when they not have the ticket. Did you loose your ID anytime? Could be any person with your same name?
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So there's somebody else with your surname in Morges......
some of the people i know told me that this person must've used my name and gave a wrong address to where I am currently living, here in Geneva, funny thing is, the first name is wrong, so if i show my ID's or passport, it will be clear that I did not receive any ticket form that date
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I always thought you have to give an ID. I show how they ask people for ID when they not have the ticket. Did you loose your ID anytime? Could be any person with your same name?
me too, that's what i wanted to point out, if you get caught, you must show an ID or any proof,
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some of the people i know told me that this person must've used my name and gave a wrong address to where I am currently living, here in Geneva, funny thing is, the first name is wrong, so if i show my ID's or passport, it will be clear that I did not receive any ticket form that date
So, if the first name is wrong is not you!!
Just claiming that didn't work?
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So, if the first name is wrong is not you!!
Just claiming that didn't work?
yes but the thing is, they've sent it over my mother's workplace which I find ridiculous. And it is totally embarrassing for my mother as well
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It all just screams "Scam" to me.

Photo or scan the "bill" (hide any correct personal details of course) and let's have a proper look at it!

The paying-in slip is always especially interesting...
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Old 01.04.2011, 15:03
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It all just screams "Scam" to me.

Photo or scan the "bill" (hide any correct personal details of course) and let's have a proper look at it!

The paying-in slip is always especially interesting...
well, it as a real one, i actually called the company. And so now I have to wait for their call.
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Re: I received a bill that I didn't commit

This probably should have been done as soon as you got the first bill, but it is not too late now:

1) Call them up
2) Tell them that is not your name and you do not know why they are sending you other people's bills
3) Wait and see what they say

Sounds like you have done (1) and (2) already, so just wait until you get the call back and listen to what they say. Don't muddle things by asking questions of your own (time and date, what form of ID the person showed, etc.) Keep it simple and let them do the talking. If they ask for a copy of your ID to compare to whatever ID they have on file, just send it to them. They may not have a right to demand it, but you want to get this straightened out quickly, right? EDIT: this presumes you have established that you are indeed talking to the bus company. Check them in the phone book. Is it the same number you were told to call?

If it's not your mother's name, it shouldn't be embarrassing for her any more than for you. Mistakes happen. The goal now is to get it cleared up quickly so that they can stop bothering you/your mother and move on to the actual offender.
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Old 01.04.2011, 15:07
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Re: I received a bill that I didn't commit

Sometimes I wish we could slow these things down a bit. One thing I don't understand is why, if a 'bill' turned up at your Mother's workplace with a name on which isn't yours, anyone decided it concerned you. If you and your mother have the same 'family name' this could just as well be for her.
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Send them a registered letter. Deny their accusation, ask for proof.
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