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Re: Is it normal for Swiss restaurants to charge too much for poor quality food?

Q. Is it normal for Swiss restaurants to charge too much for poor quality food?

A. Yes, it is.
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Old 08.04.2011, 15:18
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In the recent months, I have found other restaurants, masquerading as serving Indian cuisine, been to Sushi establishments where you need to put down a mortgage before consuming, due to cost. All the expensive dishes and frankly average food leaves me wondering, if all restaurants in Switzerland, get away with charging way too much for poor quality food?
There are some older threads on the EF where the Indian food things has been done to death. I recommend you browse there if you want to know where to get good Indian food.
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Re: Is it normal for Swiss restaurants to charge too much for poor quality food?

Having lived there for 3 and a bit years, in my opinion f you want a good quantiy & quality of food in Zug, go to

1) Han Mongolian Barbecue - next to the Ferrari / Maserati garage on Baarerstrasse. 30 CHF, all you can eat, keep taking your plate back (beat 4 plates if you can)

2) Juanito's Mexican Restaurant - again about 30 CHF per meal but my god do you get fed well

3) The chinese in the station

4) Yeah, basically that's it.
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Re: Is it normal for Swiss restaurants to charge too much for poor quality food?

You should have tried eating there at night - usually the prices seem to double compared to any 'mittagsmenu'!

We quickly realised that an average meal in an average restaurant (outside of the mittagsmenu specials) generally represents to our mind and budget pretty crap value for money - in terms of service, and overall price paid. I also find the 1dl measures of wine (the only place in the world I've seen them muck about like this with such puny measure outside of Germany) totally joyless - and expensive.

We now opt to eat out in Switzerland extremely rarely, and, when we do we splash out on something a bit special - at least at the higher end of the market you can find good ambience, service and cuisine - plus they tend to abandon all the 1dl nonsense from the wine lists!

The rest of the time we enjoy eating out at a more basic level whenever out of the country for a fraction of the price.

The upside is, as Nil stated earlier, we're becoming better cooks year-by-year!
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Re: Is it normal for Swiss restaurants to charge too much for poor quality food?

I'm wondering whether the OP has had the chance to go for a chinese yet. The price of which is bound to put the 20chf into proportion!
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Re: Is it normal for Swiss restaurants to charge too much for poor quality food?

To be fair, the chinese in Zug station is spot on, good size portions, and good value (for Switzerland, anyway)

If you're willing to take one of the ones that they have ready made at the counter, rather than order off the menu, it's about 16 CHF for a big old serving. Off the menu, more like 20 CHF.
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Re: Is it normal for Swiss restaurants to charge too much for poor quality food?

Often, after eating out here, I think that I must be a really good cook. After I eat out in other countries, I nearly always feel glad I didn't have to cook and that we had a nice meal out.
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Try eating hospital food here... I have spent 5 months in hospital (in the last year and a half), and every stay has coincided with quite significant weight loss, which, as I'm one of those people who is generally borderline underwieght is not a good thing.

The thing that puzzles me is that this hospital has a dietician... so they would send me to the dietician, I would explain (politely) that I couldn't eat the food because it was so horrible (on top of the fact that when I'm ill I have trouble eating anyway)... and the dietician would nod along and suggest that they gave me a yoghurt with every meal... . I tried everything: carnivorous option, vegetarian option, poultry-and-fish-but-no-red-meat option... nothing worked! (On a side note, does anyone here eat meat twice a day, every day? Because that's what they gave the carnivores...)

The strange thing was, all the Swiss people said the food was great...

In comparison, when I was in a similar situation in the UK, the rest of the care was much worse, but the food... we actually had a choice of what to eat as opposed to 'this is what's on the menu tonight and you're eating it'. And when I burst into tears in the dinging room on my third day because I was feeling so ill I hadn't been able to eat anything, the staff came to my rescue and from then on I got special food drawn up from the (rather small) list of things I was able to stomach.
When I had to go to hospital back in 1988 for a few weeks (cancer surgery) I took a wide assortment of spices with me. And asked the the nice lady in charge about the matter. She asked the doctor, who gave the go-ahead for me and two other chaps in the room. And so, we enriched the food with appropriate spices, so that the stuff BECAME great indeed
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Re: Is it normal for Swiss restaurants to charge too much for poor quality food?

I know that this restaurant isn't anywhere near Zug, but when I visited Switzerland last month a good friend of mine brought me to this restaurant in the middle Zurich, which was both relatively cheap and had great food. http://www.tripadvisor.com/Restauran...le-Zurich.html The only issue with the restaurant is that you need to find your own seat. Otherwise this is great place to get a Schnitzel or Cordon Bleu at a reasonable price.
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When I had to go to hospital back in 1988 for a few weeks (cancer surgery) I took a wide assortment of spices with me. And asked the the nice lady in charge about the matter. She asked the doctor, who gave the go-ahead for me and two other chaps in the room. And so, we enriched the food with appropriate spices, so that the stuff BECAME great indeed
My parents ended up buying me ketchup . But even that didn't make it edible!
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Q. Is it normal for Swiss restaurants to charge too much for poor quality food?

A. Yes, it is.
No, it is NOT. I mean, it IS almost normal in Switzerland, at least in urban areas to charge too much. But poor quality food in all countries is not cheaper really than good one and at worst the contrary. The story with those gigantic dishes reminded me of the Restaurant Torkel in Vaduz/FL which used to be good, until they started to serve the same meals as before in gigantic dishes at twice the price.

The only reaction to "villains" as the one described in the OP is not to go there again but try another one.
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To be fair, the chinese in Zug station is spot on, good size portions, and good value (for Switzerland, anyway)

If you're willing to take one of the ones that they have ready made at the counter, rather than order off the menu, it's about 16 CHF for a big old serving. Off the menu, more like 20 CHF.
This may be in Zug, but Chinese places in the Zurich area, whenever quite many of them quite good, charge exceedingly high prices (with the exception of a number of "budget places", some of them quite good and in case of doubt even better than the "noble" ones)
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I know that this restaurant isn't anywhere near Zug, but when I visited Switzerland last month a good friend of mine brought me to this restaurant in the middle Zurich, which was both relatively cheap and had great food. http://www.tripadvisor.com/Restauran...le-Zurich.html The only issue with the restaurant is that you need to find your own seat. Otherwise this is great place to get a Schnitzel or Cordon Bleu at a reasonable price.
And comparable to the Rheinfelder is the Johanniter
http://www.johanniter.com/
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My parents ended up buying me ketchup . But even that didn't make it edible!
I was in the Zurich University Hospital. My mother between 2006 and 2008 was in both the Triemli Hospital and the Waid Hospital. I at times tried them meals-wise and the cuisine of also those two would have been quite nice, except lacking any spices. By what I have seen I would give rank 1 to the Unispital, rank 2 to the Waidspital and rank 3 to the Triemli (a bit bland and boring).

What "house" have YOU been guest to ?
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I have to say, the Italian restaurants I've been to in Basel certainly know how to make the BEST risotto. On a recent trip back to the UK my sister was raving about a posh restaurant in Yarm - the bees knees. We went - I ordered Risotto and it just tasted like a bland plate of rice compared to the way it's done here. I didn't say anything though!
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I was in the Zurich University Hospital. My mother between 2006 and 2008 was in both the Triemli Hospital and the Waid Hospital. I at times tried them meals-wise and the cuisine of also those two would have been quite nice, except lacking any spices. By what I have seen I would give rank 1 to the Unispital, rank 2 to the Waidspital and rank 3 to the Triemli (a bit bland and boring).

What "house" have YOU been guest to ?
Hôpital de Prangins... maybe they think that as we have psychiatric problems we don't need feeding as well as patients with physical problems...

Or maybe it's a Suisse Romande thing, as I have the option of having meals delivered from the Hôpital de Morges (via the CMS), but I'm reliably assured the food is of a similar standard there.
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Quality, quantity and value vary hugely in the UK too. Go to London, say Covent Garden, or a good pub (yes there are some!) in the Midlands- and there's no comparison.
A good Chinese restaurant in the UK is very expensive too btw.
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I only eat at places friends have recommended.
I could not agree more. Congratulations. The first time I heard this rule, it was in France, and I was 10 years old.
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I have to say, the Italian restaurants I've been to in Basel certainly know how to make the BEST risotto. On a recent trip back to the UK my sister was raving about a posh restaurant in Yarm - the bees knees. We went - I ordered Risotto and it just tasted like a bland plate of rice compared to the way it's done here. I didn't say anything though!
I, when on visits to London, a few times tried Italian restaurants but with the exception of one in Goodge Street (the then owner now being around 90, if still alive !) they mostly were disastrous. I when in the UK went to Indian and Arab and Persian/Iranian restaurants (good food, good service). I have done so since 1972 and always got it right.

I however once went to a Vietnamese restaurant in London which was absolutely superb at fairly low prices.

A place to be recommended however, even if not for meals, is the
Texas Lone Star Restaurant
117 Queensway
London
W2 4QS

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http://www.texasembassy.com/TECFood2011.pdf
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Hôpital de Prangins... maybe they think that as we have psychiatric problems we don't need feeding as well as patients with physical problems...

Or maybe it's a Suisse Romande thing, as I have the option of having meals delivered from the Hôpital de Morges (via the CMS), but I'm reliably assured the food is of a similar standard there.
I am a bit surprised as outside hospitals that area is known for good cuisine. Known is however that lots of Romands show meagre interest in good infrastructure ...... Back to Zurich, meals in the three public hospitals are excellently cooked but lack any spices, both in view of the fact that many patients cannot take any spicing and that many either have allergies or do not like to have anything spicy.
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