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Old 12.04.2011, 22:39
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Re: Why are the Swiss so reluctant to price match?

I just booked a Golf for 4 days in Switzerland in June for £160 , I used the travelsupermarket.co.uk site and used my english address(I still have a house there and a bank account). If I entered my swiss address it immediately said the offer was not valid .........just hope the swiss driving licence does not trip me up when I collect .....anyone else had any issues with that ?
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I just booked a Golf for 4 days in Switzerland in June for £160 , I used the travelsupermarket.co.uk site and used my english address(I still have a house there and a bank account). If I entered my swiss address it immediately said the offer was not valid .........just hope the swiss driving licence does not trip me up when I collect .....anyone else had any issues with that ?
I always book using UK address/card and have Swiss licence - never had any problems yet!
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Old 12.04.2011, 22:54
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Re: Why are the Swiss so reluctant to price match?

Did you check out the Swiss favorite Mobility? Btw, don't forget to add into whatever "deal" you get the price of filling the tank.
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Old 12.04.2011, 23:11
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Did you check out the Swiss favorite Mobility? Btw, don't forget to add into whatever "deal" you get the price of filling the tank.
They have a price comparison calculator on the mobility website. It came out to over 1000CHF with mobility. I don't think the fuel will amount to THAT much!
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Old 12.04.2011, 23:41
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Re: Why are the Swiss so reluctant to price match?

Slightly OT, but is Priceline (or similar) available in Switzerland? In the US, I rented cars as low as $17/day just by bidding at this price.
I also got ridiculously low prices for hotels in London (at the Meridien).
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Old 13.04.2011, 00:03
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Re: Why are the Swiss so reluctant to price match?

Whatever, what irrritates me about this thread is that the whole affair is talked about as if there were ANY "Swiss" car-rental-companies" while in reality there is not a single Swiss car-rental-company in evidence. The companies mentioned may be Swiss subsidiaries (AG/SA) but nothing more.

If talking about Avis, a look into their WEBsite
http://www.avis.ch/avisonline/ch-de/...s,Avis_Schweiz
shows that also "Avis-Schweiz" is a US-American company

Europcar/National-Car-Rental indeed is a subsidiary of AMAG, and so a "Swiss" company, but AMAG for decades was and is closely allied with Volkswagen, so you will get the picture

All these companies and their employees work on the basis of their computer programs, actually more so than ever. There of course in case of most or all of them is A) the "same-day-business", B) the country-internal-business, and C) the business via outside-retailers .... which is a different matter

Add to this that Swiss employees of these companies grew up in a business climate where "labelled prices" were/are THE ruling principle and "on-the-spot-marketing" ways are something of those "chaibe Tschingge, Türkke und Araber" and not the way of correct Swiss people. Exceptions are the airfreight-business, the spirits-business and a few other exots !
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Re: Why are the Swiss so reluctant to price match?

Forget it :-). List of ridiculously cheap things in Switzerland ends on air and water.

On a more serious note - try www.easycar.ch . Renting from an airport will most likely yield best prices.
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Old 13.04.2011, 00:18
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Re: Why are the Swiss so reluctant to price match?

Hey Porsch,

Take some advice from my friend. She hires spare courtesy cars from a Mazda dealer near Zurich.
They have a few new, clean, serviced cars for rental when they're not in use and she pays 35chf per day regardless of milage. Anyone with a Swiss licence can drive. We've been on weekend ski trips countless times and there's never been a time when one wasn't available.
She's now on a trip to Croatia crossing over to Italy and driving back up again and it's all just 35chf per day. She's currently got a quite spacious Citoen Zafira people carrier.
I can't think of any drawbacks so maybe call a few smaller car dealers near you and ask.
Worth a try.

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Old 15.04.2011, 21:13
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Re: Why are the Swiss so reluctant to price match?

Another example of lack of price matching was with an objective manufacturer I was buying an objective from. A third party had the same objective at a cheaper price. I told the rep that we've bought stuff from them before and he was kind enough to send test objectives to us but the third party has exactly the same objective at a good 300CHF cheaper. They got the objective from you...so there MUST be money in this for you doing it at the same price.

He simply said he can't reduce it and to get it from the third party Yeh sure I felt bad not getting it from the sales rep, but in the 'current economic climate' I need to keep within my budget and 300CHF could easily go towards that conference I want to go to!
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Another example of lack of price matching was with an objective manufacturer I was buying an objective from. A third party had the same objective at a cheaper price. I told the rep that we've bought stuff from them before and he was kind enough to send test objectives to us but the third party has exactly the same objective at a good 300CHF cheaper. They got the objective from you...so there MUST be money in this for you doing it at the same price.

He simply said he can't reduce it and to get it from the third party Yeh sure I felt bad not getting it from the sales rep, but in the 'current economic climate' I need to keep within my budget and 300CHF could easily go towards that conference I want to go to!
If you are having this problem again and again, you may need to do something about your negotiation skills.
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If you are having this problem again and again, you may need to do something about your negotiation skills.
So you find the Swiss to be more amenable to negotiating? Why don't you give examples of where you have been successful in negotiating instead of subtly (or not so) trying to insult me.
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Old 16.04.2011, 00:50
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Another example of lack of price matching was with an objective manufacturer I was buying an objective from. A third party had the same objective at a cheaper price. I told the rep that we've bought stuff from them before and he was kind enough to send test objectives to us but the third party has exactly the same objective at a good 300CHF cheaper. They got the objective from you...so there MUST be money in this for you doing it at the same price.

He simply said he can't reduce it and to get it from the third party Yeh sure I felt bad not getting it from the sales rep, but in the 'current economic climate' I need to keep within my budget and 300CHF could easily go towards that conference I want to go to!
and so what ? in reality, he cannot go below the price-guidelines given by the one in charge in his company. No way. If you go to the competion, so be it !
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So you find the Swiss to be more amenable to negotiating? Why don't you give examples of where you have been successful in negotiating instead of subtly (or not so) trying to insult me.
You refer to THE Swiss. Neglecting the difference between the various trades and the various situations. And again neglecting to see the weight, most Swiss people give to "labelled/fixed prices" .

You of course CAN negotiate, if in contact with persons who are ENTITLED to negotiate. You CAN do so in regard to
- motor cars
- airfreight shipping
- wholesale purchases of aircraft models
- on the flea market (with many of them)
- with sellers of books and CDs and DVDs
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Old 16.04.2011, 01:40
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Re: Why are the Swiss so reluctant to price match?

There are places in the US where everything is really cheap but the fact is that you will not get it at that price. They will try to up-sell you with more stuff before shipping it to you.
In other words, you order online but you then get a phone call saying that the charger for example is not included. So if you agree to it (or even if you disagree as they have your credit card already) you will get your stuff + a $80 charger. Bait and switch. There are many electronics vendors in Brooklyn operating like that.
No reputable merchant will match prices you find on the internet.

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Another example of lack of price matching was with an objective manufacturer I was buying an objective from. A third party had the same objective at a cheaper price. I told the rep that we've bought stuff from them before and he was kind enough to send test objectives to us but the third party has exactly the same objective at a good 300CHF cheaper. They got the objective from you...so there MUST be money in this for you doing it at the same price.

He simply said he can't reduce it and to get it from the third party Yeh sure I felt bad not getting it from the sales rep, but in the 'current economic climate' I need to keep within my budget and 300CHF could easily go towards that conference I want to go to!
Again, the man first of all is not the boss and second has grown up in a belief in fixed/labelled prices. I have known two car salesmen, one for Opel/GM and one for FIAT/Lancia/AlfaRomeo, who both were VERY flexible in regard to "on-the-spot" negotiations. The good old Opel chap got retired some 18 years ago and the FIATman will get retired in about 3 years. And whether their successors are / will be as flexible as them, I don't know.

You of course can retaliate. A customer of us once protested to our salesman about the price of a certain category of articles, but our Mr F could not out of nothing change the price of about 200 articles. However reported the case about Mr .... of that big transport company to us. In the evening we re-labelled all the articles in question to a price a bit below the competition. Mr .... , who had bought such an article at that other guy, visited our shop the next day and was outraged, but coolly told that there was no law hindering us from changing prices !
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Back in the mighty UK, people in retail that I've spoken too (even in the car rental business) say they are willing to take a loss just in order to gain a customer from another company. It makes sense to me. Repeat sale is what it's all about is it not?

I mean if I don't drive the car it's just going to sit there making no money is it not?
No. If you drive the car 100 kilometers, it drops in value. Business practice in the UK is very different from here. A customer who looks for the lowest price is not a loyal customer since they will switch instantly to the next person that offers a cheap price. I'm far more happy when the cheapskates go to my competitors - leaves me more time for the people who appreciate service and who pay more, and erodes the bottom line of my competitor. Win-win!
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Old 18.04.2011, 22:45
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No. If you drive the car 100 kilometers, it drops in value. Business practice in the UK is very different from here. A customer who looks for the lowest price is not a loyal customer since they will switch instantly to the next person that offers a cheap price. I'm far more happy when the cheapskates go to my competitors - leaves me more time for the people who appreciate service and who pay more, and erodes the bottom line of my competitor. Win-win!
I never got any reduction past the student discount from Avis. So there must be good money in it for them.

I know it's simplistic since they are different companies, but in all honesty car hire prices are much higher here than the rest of the world. These companies have big margins.

I personally don't buy into people getting a price reduction from a company and not going back to them. I'd certainly go there first to find a price. But in all honesty, a customer who doesn't shop around is either stupid or has more money than sense.


Not aimed specifically at your post but the feeling I get from some of the posts in this thread and in another thread is that the customer should be lucky to be allowed to spend their money with some companies.
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Re: Why are the Swiss so reluctant to price match?

I usually have the best luck on pricing from Sixt. You might want to check them out. Enjoy the Easter weekend!
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Re: Why are the Swiss so reluctant to price match?

To the original poster:

Try ebookers.ch, I got a good deal there last time. If you can, ask for automatic and any other constraining detail you can imagine. If you arrive and there is no more automatic they will upgrade you for the inconvenience.

Students are cheapos... I know it, I was one ... bargain if you want but don't take it personal if they say no.

Good luck with it.
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If you can, ask for automatic
That's a good tip. I always used to book a Golf automatic. I got a Passat every time. Lovely car, it was.
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