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Old 19.04.2011, 10:13
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That's a good tip. I always used to book a Golf automatic. I got a Passat every time. Lovely car, it was.
Interestingly enough I did book an Automatic Meriva. When I phoned to confirm they said they will be giving me an Automatic Fiesta. I said that's too small. They said a Focus then. I said that's still smaller than the Meriva.

So they said we can give you a manual Meriva. When I get there I may kick up a fuss and try and get a bigger car which is automatic I guess.
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Old 19.04.2011, 10:26
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Re: Why are the Swiss so reluctant to price match?

If you have a SBB half card you can get a discount at europcar. Just check their website and look at partner offers.
I recently tried these guys: http://www.3clickcarhire.com/home.php
and got a very good deal. Their price is lower than all the rental agenciesand you get the same car at the same rental agency. In my case I got one from Sixt, but they use all the major agencies in town.

In reply to another post, I get the impression here too that companies here are spoilt by the lack of competition and feel the customers should be happy to spend their money with them...
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Old 19.04.2011, 15:31
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If you have a SBB half card you can get a discount at europcar. Just check their website and look at partner offers.
I recently tried these guys: http://www.3clickcarhire.com/home.php
and got a very good deal. Their price is lower than all the rental agenciesand you get the same car at the same rental agency. In my case I got one from Sixt, but they use all the major agencies in town.

In reply to another post, I get the impression here too that companies here are spoilt by the lack of competition and feel the customers should be happy to spend their money with them...

THIS here
http://tel.local.ch/de/q/?what=Autov...id=directories
shows that there is NO lack of competition but in fact even a fierce and aggressive competition

You should not jump to conclusions by the ways of business is conducted. Quite to the contrary, the credibility of a company here depends on it having a printed pricelist which is adhered to !
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Old 19.04.2011, 15:51
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THIS here
http://tel.local.ch/de/q/?what=Autov...id=directories
shows that there is NO lack of competition but in fact even a fierce and aggressive competition

You should not jump to conclusions by the ways of business is conducted. Quite to the contrary, the credibility of a company here depends on it having a printed pricelist which is adhered to !
54 results for the whole of Zurich?

Aberdeen has 220k people and has 74 car rentals places.

http://www.yell.com/ucs/UcsSearchAct...Results=&ssm=1

And lets not forget poor people like me who live in Neuchatel and get 13. With some of the results being Bank now and Ge money bank (presumably for finance for a car?)
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Old 19.04.2011, 18:20
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54 results for the whole of Zurich?

Aberdeen has 220k people and has 74 car rentals places.

http://www.yell.com/ucs/UcsSearchAct...Results=&ssm=1

And lets not forget poor people like me who live in Neuchatel and get 13. With some of the results being Bank now and Ge money bank (presumably for finance for a car?)
Aberdeen has an oil-industry .... , and I think that 54 to result as such companies clearly means that there are approx 100 in total, as I just used ONE criteria. And this means quite a lot.

Many banks sell motor-car-leasing-contracts, and so act as car-leasing-companies in a way.
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Old 20.04.2011, 15:57
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Aberdeen has an oil-industry .... , and I think that 54 to result as such companies clearly means that there are approx 100 in total, as I just used ONE criteria. And this means quite a lot.

Many banks sell motor-car-leasing-contracts, and so act as car-leasing-companies in a way.
I only used one criteria as well. And has Zurich not got any industry? What do all these expats do when they come work there?

I know many banks sell car leasing contracts. But what has that got to do with car rental?
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Old 20.04.2011, 16:07
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I'm sure when he review comes around and that branch hasn't rented as many cars as they should and her reviewer asks why and she replies 'Avis are cheaper, so everyone goes there' then she will be collecting unemployment benefits
No. But then again if she rented out the car for less than she can/should or is profitable then she will be collecting unemployment benefits.

And what is the point in repeat business if you lose money? The next time you go you'll will want the same price that you paid before and they will never make any money out of you.
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Old 20.04.2011, 16:12
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Re: Why are the Swiss so reluctant to price match?

Im sorry porsch, i hesitate to call you an outright liar but you seem to be suggesting that you got less than perfect customer service in switzerland.

this simply cannot be!

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Old 20.04.2011, 17:46
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No. But then again if she rented out the car for less than she can/should or is profitable then she will be collecting unemployment benefits.

And what is the point in repeat business if you lose money? The next time you go you'll will want the same price that you paid before and they will never make any money out of you.
Any profit is better than none and break even is better than a loss.

A car parked outside is making a loss. Renting it out might pay that day's depreciation and the electric bill.

It just appears to be the way in Switzerland (I deliberately don't say Swiss, because it's a habit acquired by foreigners too) not to reduce prices to at least get some turnover and get some money toward your overheads. Look at all the empty restaurants midweek as an example. The philosophy seems to be that if you have no customers, you need to charge more to ream as much as possible out of those that you do have.
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Old 20.04.2011, 18:35
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Re: Why are the Swiss so reluctant to price match?

I've found it worth spending the time & train fare to travel an hour into say Singen, or Friedrichshafen in Germany to pick up a rental car (especially if you don't actually need it in Switzerland and therefore don't need to get a vignette). Great for say a journey into France, Germany, Austria.

The way Swiss car rental prices have gone the past year means you can rent a BMW 5 series or Mercedes E class there for a 3 day weekend from Europcar or Sixt for less money than a Hyundai i10 here in Switzerland - or, to put it another way, for literally one third of the price of doing it here.
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I only used one criteria as well. And has Zurich not got any industry? What do all these expats do when they come work there?

I know many banks sell car leasing contracts. But what has that got to do with car rental?
Zurich of course has industry, but the oil industry is a very particular one. AND quite many expats do NOT drive here due to the short distances, the public transport which is good at least in the urban areas, and the traffic density.

The car leasing contracts of banks are, by a decision of the Federal Court, regarded legally as car-rental operations.
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Old 20.04.2011, 22:00
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Zurich of course has industry, but the oil industry is a very particular one. AND quite many expats do NOT drive here due to the short distances, the public transport which is good at least in the urban areas, and the traffic density.

The car leasing contracts of banks are, by a decision of the Federal Court, regarded legally as car-rental operations.
I don't really care if they are legally regarded as car-rental operations. I can't go the GE money bank and rent a car for a weekend. It is not a car-rental firm in the traditional sense of the word.

Or more simply put....GE money bank doesn't provide competition for Europcar which is why you posted the link in the first place.
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Old 20.04.2011, 23:54
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I don't really care if they are legally regarded as car-rental operations. I can't go the GE money bank and rent a car for a weekend. It is not a car-rental firm in the traditional sense of the word.

Or more simply put....GE money bank doesn't provide competition for Europcar which is why you posted the link in the first place.
I fully agree. To me they are NOT car-rental-companies at all in reality. But numerous garages DO rent out cars at far lower prices then the "official" car-rental-companies and so ARE a competition. I posted the link without knowing of the complete MISuse of the listing by those banks. But what else to expect from bankers . But those bankers will tell somebody who rented a car from them in the belief that the car would become ownership of the customer after a while that it was just a "rental-agreement" !

And back to your comparison with Aberdeen. British cities which might be comparable with Zurich by size are places like Bristol and Plymouth, or in France and Germany places like Montpellier, Dijon, Strassburg, Stuttgart, Konstanz. I doubt that those cities have more than 100 car-rental-companies.
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Old 21.04.2011, 11:36
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http://www.yell.com/ucs/UcsSearchAct...lete=kw_recent

Bristol comes up with 106 results
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A better phone-book than we have, perhaps

or a less comprehensive public transport network
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Old 27.04.2011, 12:22
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Just to update everyone that I wasn't very pleased with the standard of car given by Avis. They ended up giving me a Focus even though they said it would be a Meriva over the phone.

And it still had winter tyres on. 24 degree heat and winter tyres It also had numerous bumps and scrapes all over it.
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Just to update everyone that I wasn't very pleased with the standard of car given by Avis. They ended up giving me a Focus even though they said it would be a Meriva over the phone.

And it still had winter tyres on. 24 degree heat and winter tyres It also had numerous bumps and scrapes all over it.
Was that before or after
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I guess that's why it was so cheap and Europcar couldn't price match. Not the same quality of service or product!
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I guess that's why it was so cheap and Europcar couldn't price match. Not the same quality of service or product!
You next time might consider, when travelling from Zurich Airport, THE competition to the rental-car-industry







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Just to update everyone that I wasn't very pleased with the standard of car given by Avis. They ended up giving me a Focus even though they said it would be a Meriva over the phone.

And it still had winter tyres on. 24 degree heat and winter tyres It also had numerous bumps and scrapes all over it.
For the holiday I rented a 2008 Astra for 10 days from a small company (300 EUR, not bad at all) and it still had winter tires. I found out on the third day after driving (fast) 3000km on the highway...
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