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Old 15.04.2011, 16:27
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Re: First Bad Selling Experience on EF

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She has since made a few posts, always replying to items for free. That figures.
Have you been in touch with the other members to see if they can add any other info? There is probably little they can add if they were giving stuff away but they could have been caught out if they also had items for sale.
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Old 15.04.2011, 16:52
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In case it was not clear in my first post, the buyer paid for most of the goods. They brought a large note which was not very clever. I mean, if the goods (two bed sofas) total 100 chf, why bring 200 chf and expect me to have change? I didn't. Then they decided they wanted two items, almost brand new contour pillows, new price for each pillow is 30 chd, I said thay could have both for 20 chf. Fine. So they collected all the small notes they had between them which was still not enough even to cover the initial purchase. When they added the pillows, there was even more of a shortfall. It was Saturday night, it was late, and they seemed like honest people who would follow through with the payment.

The "story" I have been told is that the money was to be transferred by someone else, a person I never met and do not know. I emailed the buyer my bank details for the transfer after the items were picked up. I didn't have any pay in slips with me.

The point is the buyer is responsible for paying me, not some third party. She could have paid me and collected the money from that person herself. She promised to pay and I took her at her word.

We are not talking about enough money for me to take any legal action, but enough to annoy me. (30 chf). As I said, it is not my money, it is for a client.

Since you all have been asking, it is this member. She had never posted, not even an intro, before contacting me by private mail.

You should send her a reminder and ask about information. And state that in case, somebody else is to pay, you need FULL contact details of this "third party".

That they had a CHF 200 note with them is easy to explain as bank-machines spill out such notes quite generally. If something costs more than CHF 80.-- then it is expected that the partner can hand out change for a CHF 200 note.

It may be that she has (had to) return to Romania. But Romania is in Europe and so not out of the world.
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Old 15.04.2011, 16:56
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Re: First Bad Selling Experience on EF

If they're having trouble with the third party, then they could shove 30CHF in the post, registered.

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That they had a CHF 200 note with them is easy to explain as bank-machines spill out such notes quite generally.
True. I've got into the habit of requesting 180 or 240 CHF so at least I have something small to pay for bits with.
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Re: First Bad Selling Experience on EF

When I buy something privately, I try to bring the correct amount and not assume the seller can break a large note.

As has been suggested, I should have just taken the 200 note, and refunded them the difference. I just never thought of that.

I should not have to chase the balance due.

Thanks for everyone's input. If I see the money I will be sure to update this thread.
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Old 15.04.2011, 17:32
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Re: First Bad Selling Experience on EF

Of for Thor's sake! Put the 30 francs in an envelope and mail it to Mrs. D if you don't have access to a bank account.

Seriously, nickel & dime-ing people makes me more angry than blatant stealing. It's just so cheap and horrible.

Sorry you had to deal with this idiot. In hindsight her user name is some serious foreshadowing.
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Old 15.04.2011, 17:34
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Of for Thor's sake! Put the 30 francs in an envelope and mail it to Mrs. D if you don't have access to a bank account.

Seriously, nickel & dime-ing people makes me more angry than blatant stealing. It's just so cheap and horrible.

Sorry you had to deal with this idiot. In hindsight her user name is some serious foreshadowing.
I also find this far more irritating.
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Old 15.04.2011, 17:35
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It may be that she has (had to) return to Romania. But Romania is in Europe and so not out of the world.
So you think it's our responsibility to take a road trip to Romania to collect 30Francs? Is it Mrs D's fault she had to be back?

Anyway, forget what I said above don't send cash from Romania.
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Re: First Bad Selling Experience on EF

Hmmm you only make that mistake once....always no cash no deal
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So you think it's our responsibility to take a road trip to Romania to collect 30Francs? Is it Mrs D's fault she had to be back?

Anyway, forget what I said above don't send cash from Romania.
The matter neither is your fault nor your responsibility. And the reason why the person possibly had to go back is NOT your fault at all !!! . And in the world of today you do not have to take road-trips. You however ought to find out whereabouts of the person and then contact the person again. The person may still have Email, for example, and an Email to Romania does not cost you more than one to somebody a few roads away from you !
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Hmmm you only make that mistake once....always no cash no deal
Wisdom in hindsight always is easy. Needed is to see ways to get the money. Even if only CHF 30.-- apparently.

I in the mid-90ies gave CHF 50 to a former colleague who was in trouble. In about 2005 he turned up here and handed me the note back !

In that case, I had never reminded him, as I knew him. In the case above, I would remind the person definitely.
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Re: First Bad Selling Experience on EF

So the plot thickens. Buyer says she will get the transfer details from her friend who she gave the cash to (and my bank details). She says she has limited internet access and no bank account here. Very odd. An apartment but no bank acccount?

I have offered to send a pay in slip which then the money can be paid in at any post office. I asked for an address to send it to. We'll see what comes back.
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Old 16.04.2011, 22:21
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Re: First Bad Selling Experience on EF

Just pay close attention to your bank account for the next couple of months... You never know
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So the plot thickens. Buyer says she will get the transfer details from her friend who she gave the cash to (and my bank details). She says she has limited internet access and no bank account here. Very odd. An apartment but no bank acccount?

I have offered to send a pay in slip which then the money can be paid in at any post office. I asked for an address to send it to. We'll see what comes back.
> you do not need to have a bank account to make a bank transfer onto a particular account
> there are internet-cafés around the globe, also in Romania

You mention an apartment. But WHERE is this apartment ? Do you have the present address ?
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So the plot thickens. Buyer says she will get the transfer details from her friend who she gave the cash to (and my bank details). She says she has limited internet access and no bank account here. Very odd. An apartment but no bank acccount?

I have offered to send a pay in slip which then the money can be paid in at any post office. I asked for an address to send it to. We'll see what comes back.
Ask for cash and give no other personal details.

Ignore the Nigerian e-mails.

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You mention an apartment. But WHERE is this apartment ? Do you have the present address ?
I don't know exactly where the aparment is, but the purchase of the 2 bed sofas was for the apartment. After my emails and text messages requesting an address where to send the pay in slip remained unanswered, I finally threatened to show up at her workplace in Zürich to collect the money. Guess what? The bank transfer was done immediately (by the third party) and a copy of said transfer was emailed to me by that person.

The buyer said I was not polite and I should never threaten her again.
Imagine this person lecturing me on how to behave.
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I don't know exactly where the aparment is, but the purchase of the 2 bed sofas was for the apartment. After my emails and text messages requesting an address where to send the pay in slip remained unanswered, I finally threatened to show up at her workplace in Zürich to collect the money. Guess what? The bank transfer was done immediately (by the third party) and a copy of said transfer was emailed to me by that person.

The buyer said I was not polite and I should never threaten her again.
Imagine this person lecturing me on how to behave.
Ignore it..Obviously thinks the world owes her a favour.

It's her that needed to address the situation, so how long did it take in the end?
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I don't know exactly where the aparment is, but the purchase of the 2 bed sofas was for the apartment. After my emails and text messages requesting an address where to send the pay in slip remained unanswered, I finally threatened to show up at her workplace in Zürich to collect the money. Guess what? The bank transfer was done immediately (by the third party) and a copy of said transfer was emailed to me by that person.

The buyer said I was not polite and I should never threaten her again.
Imagine this person lecturing me on how to behave.
Glad that you managed to recover payment in the end Mrs D and thanks for naming her. Some people should obviously check themselves to realise that if they paid up promptly, they wouldnt be on the receiving end of these alleged "threats". There really is nothing like lighting a fire underneath some peoples' arses to get the job done!
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