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Strangers hitting [walking straight into] your kids

Yesterday we were out and my daughter was happily walking and jumping around, like a toddler loves to do. The halle was large and empty. A man was coming our way and was looking straight at my daughter, she wasn't looking in front of her and the man (who was looking at her) walk straight into her. No attempt to avoid her, no attempt to stop, nope, all in full speed, hit her on her forehead and of course, she felt down crying while he bitched at her and walk away.

She was next to me and believe me, the area around us was huge both side of us, groups of people could have easily pass both side. But that middle age man came and with a straight face hit her (actually was more like walking all over her).

Now, how someone does react to that? I heard many stories of friends who had their kids hit by strangers. And each time, it is this urge to stand up and kick the hell out of that piece of sh*t but in reality, on the moment, one is such in shock that not much reaction comes out.

I began to scream at the guy, who kept walking away like nothing happened.... All I could think was to run after him and beat the crap out of him! Which wouldn't have help my cause (I would have feel much better thought!). But how a 9 months pregnant woman could achieve that anyway....

To bump into an adult in the street because one refuse to let space is one thing but how someone can bump into a young child on purpose?

Yes, we find idiots everywhere. But how someone should react to them?

What would you do?
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Re: Strangers hitting your kids

Push him over and, in your case, stand there looking all pregnant and dare him to touch you before calling the police.
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Thank you whomever changed the title to reflect the story - I thought I was going to read about someone smacking nil's princess, not a walkway "traffic incident."


Nil. Take a deep breath. As much as children do play / goof off as you are traveling through hallways and on walk ways, they are not play areas. Sure the guy could have been more careful but you could have told your princess to watch for the guy coming as well, no?
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Thank you whomever changed the title to reflect the story - I thought I was going to read about someone smacking nil's princess, not a walkway "traffic incident."
So did I, which was why I changed it.

I suppose I just tend to make excuses for the older (over 30) generation but there are really other ways of looking at it. Maybe the guy was walking from A to B to catch a train, bus, tram or to get to an appointment on time and he couldn't see why, when the whole area was empty, this daft (sorry Nil, maybe his thoughts, not mine) child must needs dance around left and right so that he cannot walk straight ahead and doesn't know which way to go to avoid her. Or maybe he has tunnel vision (either physical or mental!). Don't let it spoil your weekend.
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Thank you whomever changed the title to reflect the story - I thought I was going to read about someone smacking nil's princess, not a walkway "traffic incident."


Nil. Take a deep breath. As much as children do play / goof off as you are traveling through hallways and on walk ways, they are not play areas. Sure the guy could have been more careful but you could have told your princess to watch for the guy coming as well, no?
She was walking not playing. I was walking next to her and watching her to not bump into something. When I looked in front of me, I saw the guy coming, he saw us and he saw my daughter walking next to me. He could have move a feet on his right to avoir her but conciously decided to keep walking straight and kept looking at her, he saw her not looking at him, he saw her coming and he choose to walk straight into her.

And having 2 meters free each side of us, me not being that fast right now and her next to me should have been a good reason to just move a bit on the side to not hit her, no?

Honestly, if I was able to avoid it I would have avoid it... But a middle age guy who had all his mobility in good fonction, who had only himself to watch could easilly choose to avoid her instead to hit her straight. She wasn't walking in zig zag and changing directions, etc.

Funny that I have to defend her and myself to you...
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walking and jumping around, like a toddler loves to do.
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She was walking not playing.
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A man was coming our way and was looking straight at my daughter, she wasn't looking in front of her and the man (who was looking at her) walk straight into her. What would you do?
I look straight ahead sometimes and you'd be surprised the number of things I walk into. I'm not making excuses, but you are making assumptions.
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So did I, which was why I changed it.

I suppose I just tend to make excuses for the older (over 30) generation but there are really other ways of looking at it. Maybe the guy was walking from A to B to catch a train, bus, tram or to get to an appointment on time and he couldn't see why, when the whole area was empty, this daft (sorry Nil, maybe his thoughts, not mine) child must needs dance around left and right so that he cannot walk straight ahead and doesn't know which way to go to avoid her. Or maybe he has tunnel vision (either physical or mental!). Don't let it spoil your weekend.
Sorry, I didn't see where I wrote that she was dancing left and right... And it was in a shopping mall, empty hall at that time.

You change the title, but it doesn't change the whole idea of strangers hitting kids, doesn't matter if it is with hands, elbows and knees. The idea behing is the same and the results as well.
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Funny that I have to defend her and myself to you...
No, you don't.

I think the onus was more on him to avoid the two of you (as there were two of you and only one of him) BUT as I know from experience that people (seem to) rarely budge from their direct line of travel around here, I've come to the habit of "always" moving for them instead of being peeved that they didn't move for me.

Do I think you had to / needed to? No.

I do think you could have though.

(I also think he's a total ass for not stopping to apologize after knocking your daughter over.)
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I look straight ahead sometimes and you'd be surprised the number of things I walk into. I'm not making excuses, but you are making assumptions.
As you do!

I am telling you a story and you still prefer to believe that the other guy wasn't faulty and the story teller is.... Ok... you need both side of the story but you could also take my words for granted.

But you choose to not believe that the guy, intentionnally did walk on my daughter and instead to come up with good advices you arguing my side of the story?

Am I in the complaints corner? Where I should be able to take something out of my chest and ask for advices? Or am I at a trial where I should be judge and be challenged on what happened yesterday?

I certainly didn't expect to find judgement and arguments when I came for advices and compassion.
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Well the fact that the guy seemed to yell at her and not even help her up makes me thing he might be one of those all-knowing a$$holes that have to complain about anything. Hug princess for me Nil, I adore her...

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Happens to us quite regularly - me trying to steer small child around the chaos that is rush-hour on our way to and from daycare which is right in the city.

Usually you can see it's just an accident because people in suits looking at Blackberrys aren't expecting to avoid someone who is just 3 feet tall. Other times I'm not so sure but some seem to be pissed off that there are children blocking their very important route to work and pass close enough to him to side-swipe him or clonk him with a briefcase or handbag.

In your case I would have just shouted out in a very loud voice in whichever language comes to you first "Hey, look where you are going - you just knocked my child over." Most people surrounding you would have perked up at this to have a good stare and the guy, if nothing else, would have felt like a bit of a twunk for choosing to aggressively barge into a feather-weight two-year-old rather than a strapping man his own age.

Alternatively, he could have been drunk or a bit cuckoo.

How's the little one?
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Next time shout loudly and ask people around to stop him.
Or carry a manriki in your bag to throw it at running person:


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No, you don't.

I think the onus was more on him to avoid the two of you (as there were two of you and only one of him) BUT as I know from experience that people (seem to) rarely budge from their direct line of travel around here, I've come to the habit of "always" moving for them instead of being peeved that they didn't move for me.

Do I think you had to / needed to? No.

I do think you could have though.

(I also think he's a total ass for not stopping to apologize after knocking your daughter over.)

Voyons donc cibole!

If I had the chance to move enough fast I would have done it. But I saw that the guy saw her and I assume (how more wrong can I be, again) that he would avoid her)

You walk in the street, you see freaking huge preggo and a 2 years old. What do you do? Walk straight expecting them to move out of your way or you move one feet on the side and avoid to hit them? If I walk in the street and see someone with a stroller, stick or an old person, I move away to let them pass.

Nothing special here. And I still have to defend why I and my daughter didn't move away from him enough fast to avoid him while he was looking straight at her.... My bad, I assume the guy was having enough commun sense but obviously he was busy looking at her and thinking that the big preggo and the annoying toddler there should move because he was alone and maybe in a rush and.... God, what else I should have assume...
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Well the fact that the guy seemed to yell at her and not even help her up make me thing he might be one of those all-knowing a$$holes that have to complain about anything. Hug princess for me Nil, I adore her...
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Happens to us quite regularly - me trying to steer small child around the chaos that is rush-hour on our way to and from daycare which is right in the city.

Usually you can see it's just an accident because people in suits looking at Blackberrys aren't expecting to avoid someone who is just 2 feet tall. Other times I'm not so sure but some seem to be pissed off that there are children blocking their very important route to work and pass close enough to him to side-swipe him or clonk him with a briefcase or handbag.

In your case I would have just shouted out in a very loud voice in whichever language comes to you first "Hey, look where you are going - you just knocked my child over." Most people surrounding you would have perked up at this to have a good stare and the guy, if nothing else, would have felt like a bit of a twunk for choosing to aggressively barge into a feather-weight two-year-old rather than a strapping man his own age.

Alternatively, he could have been drunk or a bit cuckoo.

How's the little one?
She is ok.

Of course it happens when you are in a busy area that people are just going fast and don't look in front of them. I don't let her walk around on her own during that time because I know people won't see her. She is holding my hand or she is in my arms.

But this wasn't it. This wasn't this kind of situation. When I picked up my daughter from the floor I said something to the guy who turned, looked at me, bitched at her and kept walking on the same beat.

Yes some people behind us stopped to looked at him like he was the biggest jackass and a woman standing by was shaking her head while looking at him with the typical tut tut noise.

It gave me enough insight to understand that what happened wasn't our fault but just an inconsiderate prick who did it on purpose.
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Voyong donc cibole!
Ummm... nicht verstanden!

I am on EF, right? Being insulted (or whatever) in another language wasn't what I'd had planned today...

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If I had the chance to move enough fast I would have done it. But I saw that the guy saw her and I assume (how more wrong can I be, again) that he would avoid her)
You didn't have to move anywhere. You could have told your daughter to watch out!

As your own words imply that you knew the guy was coming straight at her and that she wasn't looking where she was going, surely you could have told her to move... or is her speed of movement in question too?

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You walk in the street, you see freaking huge preggo and a 2 years old. What do you do? Walk straight expecting them to move out of your way or you move one feet on the side and avoid to hit them? If I walk in the street and see someone with a stroller, stick or an old person, I move away to let them pass.
I'd already said that I tend to move for everyone else rather than expecting them to move for me. In the case of children / pregnant women / oldsters, I tend to walk closer to the street even instead of moving in such a way that would put them out there.

This isn't a question of what I would do though but what happened for you, your daughter and some stranger who bumped your daughter.

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Nothing special here. And I still have to defend why I and my daughter didn't move away from him enough fast to avoid him while he was looking straight at her.... My bad, I assume the guy was having enough commun sense but obviously he was busy looking at her and thinking that the big preggo and the annoying toddler there should move because he was alone and maybe in a rush and.... God, what else I should have assume...
Ahhh Nil.

If you weren't 9mos preggo, would you then have told your daughter to watch out for the guy who is coming straight at her?
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My guess is that he wouldn't have been so quick to knock over a 2 year old if your husband had been out with her or you'd all been out together. He probably knew he would get away with it with you being all large and pregnant.

There are people like that everywhere and I guess you can only really take action if they cause actual injury but even then you would most likely need the cooperation of any witnesses.

I feel for you - I would have been really upset if that had happened to my son and, being fleet of foot and not held back by a huge pregnant belly, I would certainly had it out with him even if it were just to cause a big, loud and embarrassing scene.
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Ummm... nicht verstanden!

I am on EF, right? Being insulted (or whatever) in another language wasn't what I'd had planned today...



You didn't have to move anywhere. You could have told your daughter to watch out!

As your own words imply that you knew the guy was coming straight at her and that she wasn't looking where she was going, surely you could have told her to move... or is her speed of movement in question too?



I'd already said that I tend to move for everyone else rather than expecting them to move for me. In the case of children / pregnant women / oldsters, I tend to walk closer to the street even instead of moving in such a way that would put them out there.

This isn't a question of what I would do though but what happened for you, your daughter and some stranger who bumped your daughter.



Ahhh Nil.

If you weren't 9mos preggo, would you then have told your daughter to watch out for the guy who is coming straight at her?
How much dumbass you think I am? If you had a kid, you would understand that when you tell them something, it doesn't mean they get it and react on it right away!

I expect a grown up adult to know that and them to be a little bit faster.

Voyons donc Cibole is not an insult. Like you said you didn't understand it but you assumed it was an insult... Like you assume the rest of the situation too.
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It actually sounds like this guy comes from Zurich.

This whole "I have more right to walk along this path than you do" attitude is rife there.

Tick him off as one of lifes idiots. You are sure to meet another again in your travels- think about how you might handle it next time. Its all you can do.
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It actually sounds like this guy comes from Zurich.

This whole "I have more right to walk along this path than you do" attitude is rife there.

Tick him off as one of lifes idiots. You are sure to meet another again in your travels- think about how you might handle it next time. Its all you can do.
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How much dumbass you think I am? If you had a kid, you would understand that when you tell them something, it doesn't mean they get it and react on it right away!

I expect a grown up adult to know that and them to be a little bit faster.

Voyons donc Cibole is not an insult. Like you said you didn't understand it but you assumed it was an insult... Like you assume the rest of the situation too.

If I had a kid huh... cheap shot. Thanks loads, really.
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