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Old 30.04.2011, 22:19
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There's no mayonnaise in a German Döner.
Sorry, it was slightly figurative. Durum Doner or similar comes from Turkey. That is all.
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Old 30.04.2011, 22:55
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Re: Kebabs and Chilli's

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But the Greeks and Albanians also serve their doner kebabs in bread - isn't it more likely that they would have learnt to do that from their Turkish neighbours, rather than some distant Europeans?
You forgot the WWII!
Americans brought nylon stockings and germans kebab! In all war movies you see german soldiers eating kebab in bunkers.
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Not really. Doner in bread is a common variant.

What the Germans did invent is "mit alles" and "mit scharf"
Exactly, that can be the only German addition to the Doner))
Which you cannot have in Turkish))
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Old 02.05.2011, 15:43
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jep. The trick that made it successfull worldwide, i.e. to put the meat in some kind of bread instead of on a plate, and hence the Döner as we all know it, was invented in Germany. And so it's German, in the same way as a Hamburger is American.
If you want to believe in this lie, go ahead; but it has nothing to do with the truth.
In addition there's no German doner There's only Doner; that's it.
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Actually, the best kebabs aren't in Istanbul, but rather in deepest Anatolia. The thing that makes them great are the pastes that are available there. You get wonderful sweet pepper pastes, tomato pastes and the number one ingredient in a good kofte or lahmacun is Aleppo pepper (obviously from Syria originally) which is a hot-sweet-smoky pepper made from sun dried chillis.
I cannot agree more, especially in Gaziantep, all the meat / kebap / doner I ate were amazingly beautiful. May be it's because they're very close to the Syrian border, importing pepper from there??
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For the real thing, you would have to go to Kreuzberg.
Sure, but Kreuzberg is Turkish
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Old 02.05.2011, 23:02
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Quoting from your link: "Doner kebab is now widely available across Europe and North America, mostly in the variant developed in Germany. "

And that's what people here are asking for, too.
developed in Germany ?
- you mean DISTORTED in Germany ?
- and by whom ?
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Old 02.05.2011, 23:35
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I located a photo of the pastes of tomato, pepper and aleppo pepper as well as quality cumin and other spices essential to a really good kebab, in my opinion.

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Re: Kebabs and Chilli's

have just come back from a very long weekend in the UK and am pleasantly surprised that this topic I started is still at number 1....

I did not actually get round to having a kebab while back home, though I did have a couple of good Indian currys though.......
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I cannot agree more, especially in Gaziantep, all the meat / kebap / doner I ate were amazingly beautiful. May be it's because they're very close to the Syrian border, importing pepper from there??
Antep has its own pepper. The lamb is the best there, thats why.
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