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Old 17.05.2011, 16:51
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Same for us, and the funny thing is it is higher quality, too. The bonus is it is free, healthcare for me and bub is covered there.
That is really nice! I don't get any discounts on my home country. I have to pay full amount, but the good quality, imediate and in mother-tongue consultations end up being less than half the price here And added to it, I get to see mommy

A friend of mine actually went back on purpose on 3 months holidays to give birth when she saw the prices here I haven't checked out the prices yet, to avoid one more reason to postphone becoming a mother

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Having the treatment done in the country in which you are living might work out cheaper in the long run.
That's what good planning is for hihi ^^ I have had the luck of never needing a complicated procedure: talking about teeth cleaning, doctor check ups etc. I am actually going to have to do something a bit more complicated this X-Mas, but since doctor already knows me from my yearly visits, we booked everything so that when there are complications, he will take care of me It's something I dearly love and miss in here: 1st class costumer treatment, for a 3rd class price
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Old 17.05.2011, 16:56
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Just for ironing. Show me wash and iron for less than 4chf and they'll have a new customer!
Sure wash AND iron... seriously: Any dry cleaner in Switzerland outside of the absolute city center or Seefeld.

I used to go to the one in Dietlikon at the large COOP which used to be a Carrefour and pay 2.50 for it, but I haven't been there for some time and believe they raised the prices. However most likely still under 4 CHF. The one at the Migros in Neumarkt Altstetten was also below 4 and I believe the one in Letzipark as well... literally anyone I know. 3.50 seems to be the average rate.
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Old 17.05.2011, 16:57
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Normal to pay for a quote?

Charged for a quotation.
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Old 17.05.2011, 16:58
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Re: Swiss rip-offs

Birth per se is usually covered by basic insurance, the hospital and insurer exchange bills, so if you pay your medical here, it should be ok. So, you cant really use that as a valid reason to not breed.

On the other hand, nobody mentioned Pampers yet? Jaysus....Formula, anyone? Silly things like baby scissors, temp, all the other nonsense, the biggest rip off here.
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Old 17.05.2011, 17:03
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Birth per se is usually covered by basic insurance, the hospital and insurer exchange bills, so if you pay your medical here, it should be ok. So, you cant really use that as a valid reason to not breed.

On the other hand, nobody mentioned Pampers yet? Jaysus....Formula, anyone? Silly things like baby scissors, temp, all the other nonsense, the biggest rip off here.
Quoted for posterity- MC mentioned the price of formula .
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Old 17.05.2011, 17:04
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Why unfair?

If your income is low enough that you are entitled to a subsidy (which is paid directly to the insurer, you never see it), what is wrong with using whatever money you have left as you wish?

Some people may choose to wast it way, other may choose better insurance. What's the difference?

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I figured it was for low income people who would need the money for more basic needs so the state picks up some of their insurance tab. I would have assumed they would then spend what's left of their pittance on food or rent rather than bumping up the insurance so they get a flashy hospital.
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Old 17.05.2011, 17:05
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Birth per se is usually covered by basic insurance, the hospital and insurer exchange bills, so if you pay your medical here, it should be ok. So, you cant really use that as a valid reason to not breed.

On the other hand, nobody mentioned Pampers yet? Jaysus....Formula, anyone? Silly things like baby scissors, temp, all the other nonsense, the biggest rip off here.
looooooool Way to put the carrot in front of the donkey

Luring me with one good news, and slapping me with a wet fish of 2 really bad!

I thought pampers were expensive everywhere though But I know nothing about the subject ^^
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Old 17.05.2011, 17:07
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Quoted for posterity- MC mentioned the price of formula .
Thanks for that.

I am rarely inconsistent. And the formula/baby food/diapers/toys/ etc. hasn't gotten any cheaper. Thank god for IKEA.
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Old 17.05.2011, 17:08
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Birth per se is usually covered by basic insurance, the hospital and insurer exchange bills, so if you pay your medical here, it should be ok. So, you cant really use that as a valid reason to not breed.

On the other hand, nobody mentioned Pampers yet? Jaysus....Formula, anyone? Silly things like baby scissors, temp, all the other nonsense, the biggest rip off here.
But don't you know that the pampers here are better quality because they are more expensive?
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Old 17.05.2011, 17:13
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But don't you know that the pampers here are better quality because they are more expensive?
You made me chuckle, yes. Coop used to do buy 2 get one free, also big giant packs came to decent price and I used the boxes to store baby clothes as our baby grew out of it. But still...

I remember one wench coming to me once, touching the baby muslin cloth I had over the baby carriage and saying in disbelief "how come your terry is higher quality than we have in CH?". It was bewildering, and then I told her it was about 10% of the rip off people pay here. Fraction. It's all about cash here, and babymaking/having/birthing is the biggest cash making biz. It's fun to scout out all the flee markets, nice sales and cheap shops abroad, save money to go to South of France.
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Old 17.05.2011, 17:15
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babymaking... is the biggest cash making biz.
How much?


(why is that not long enough?)
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I figured it was for low income people who would need the money for more basic needs so the state picks up some of their insurance tab. I would have assumed they would then spend what's left of their pittance on food or rent rather than bumping up the insurance so they get a flashy hospital.
Between 21.9 and 45.6 percent (average 30.5%, all numbers for 2009) get the reduction. The basic idea is not so much about really poor people (there is social security for that) but about attaining (at least partially) the same effect that would result from paying health care through a progressive tax system.

Plus: supplemental coverage does not have to be about more fancy hospitals and not all aditional coverage (depending on what is covered exactly) is expensive.
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Old 17.05.2011, 17:16
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But don't you know that the pampers here are better quality because they are more expensive?
I know there are nice Swiss and nasty Swiss... And one rotten apple shouldn't speak for all, but my husband has a colleague that has some gorgeous sayings to explain the high prices such as:

Act I

"Swiss - Swiss bananas are much better than all the others!
Me - You do realize that Colombia exports the same bananas to Switzerland as to Germany, right?
Swiss - That's a lie! They export all the best ones to us. The rest of the world gets the lower quality"

Act II

"Swiss - Yes, Port bought in Switzerland is much better than the local one bought in Portugal! Because the locals are so stupid they sell all their best to Switzerland, and keep lower quality for themselves."

This was said in all honesty, with 200% belief! It's also the same guy that wanted to discuss with us that HIS T chichen Itza pyramids were bigger than ours.
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Old 17.05.2011, 17:17
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Thanks for that.

I am rarely inconsistent. And the formula/baby food/diapers/toys/ etc. hasn't gotten any cheaper. Thank god for IKEA.
Do Ikea really sell nappies? What are they called? Smöllåuful perhaps?
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I would expect that the vast majority can afford more than basic health insurance, especially those on EF!

If you can't afford it, there are always subsidies.

Tom
Unfortunately, despite being willing and able to pay for it many people cannot get the supplemental insurance. Supplemental insurances covering hospitalization outside the canton, and/or privat/halbprivate option (which insures that you can see a senior doctor) are often denied based on age or medical history.

(And with our policy, ambulance transportation is bundled into the hospitalization supplement.)
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Old 17.05.2011, 17:21
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Flowers.

It was 15 euros for a bouquet of calla lilies (about 5-6 in that bouquet) in Munich's Viktualienmarkt, its 12 chuffs per stalk here and about 2-3 CHF each for those silly greenery they put if you want a proper bouquet - which works out to be about 60 odd chuffs.

Decent sized and well arranged bouquets of other variety range from 30CHF and up, and I am not talking about the florists in Seefeld or Marsano - but the ones in HB.

A bunch of roses (not those teeny tiny bud ones that Migros and Coop have), but big fat roses - 6-7CHF per stalk. Gahhhhh.

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Do Ikea really sell nappies? What are they called? Smöllåuful perhaps?
Naw, hahaha, not yet, but I am sure they will soon, they are very low budget and pro family.

But, just to answer your poke, they do sell fabulous cloth diapers. Nice, high quality, thick and great practical size.
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You made me chuckle, yes. Coop used to do buy 2 get one free, also big giant packs came to decent price and I used the boxes to store baby clothes as our baby grew out of it. But still...

I remember one wench coming to me once, touching the baby muslin cloth I had over the baby carriage and saying in disbelief "how come your terry is higher quality than we have in CH?". It was bewildering, and then I told her it was about 10% of the rip off people pay here. Fraction. It's all about cash here, and babymaking/having/birthing is the biggest cash making biz. It's fun to scout out all the flee markets, nice sales and cheap shops abroad, save money to go to South of France.
My Wife had an accident while in Scotland and she got bandaged up at the local hospital. The doctors said to get the bandages changed every two days when in Switzerland.

So when we got there the nurse changing the bandages shakes her head and says 'You know the bandages in Switzerland may be more expensive but they would definitely have healed these burns better than the British bandages'

These were just bog standard bandages. Nothing special about them. I mean seriously...it's as if they are brainwashed sometimes
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Also has nobody mentioned Car Rental?
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Do Ikea really sell nappies? What are they called? Smöllåuful perhaps?
They don't sell them.
They are for free in the changing rooms
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