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Re: Swiss rip-offs

Something tells me some of you staunch "Supporters" of the expensive price baulk at some of these prices when you see them and you are just trying to justify it here. At the end of the day, it is undeniable that some things here in Switzerland need not be so ridiculously over priced. Some pricing can be explained by market forces, others can best be explained by sheer greediness. While of course this is a business, this is still in my honest opinion not enough justification to sell sub par chewing gum at CHF 3.40 when across the border it is .55Eur as in poptart's example.
Personally, I just do my shopping when I go back to UK every now and then and bring back 20 - 23 kg (depending on the flight allowance). Can't do without the M&S Butter Chicken Curry jars. So now rather than baulk at the Swiss prices, I just give a "you are having a laugh" chuckle.

My favourite example.
M&S Nan Bread - 99p - Ģ1.20
Swiss Nan bread - Avg CHF 3.90
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Old 24.08.2011, 16:08
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My favourite example.
M&S Nan Bread - 99p - Ģ1.20
Swiss Nan bread - Avg CHF 3.90
But nan bread isn't really a typical Swiss thing. Most Swiss probably don't even know what it is. You might as well compare the price of Swiss wine in London versus that in Denner.

Or think of it this way. If stuff here really is too unbearbaly expensive you can pop acros the border to get it.
If you don't like the price in the UK or in the USA the next border may be a bit too far away to make that practical (unles you live in El Paso, I believe certain er, substances are cheaper on the other side), and the USA doesn't even allow you to import certain types of food.
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Old 24.08.2011, 16:08
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Re: Swiss rip-offs

at some point in time i just caved in and buckled to the prices. for one, i would have never imagined that i would be paying for water at a table service restaurant. i dont remember how many months went by before someone asked me why i wasnt just ordering tap water! /grumble
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But nan bread isn't really a typical Swiss thing. Most Swiss probably don't even know what it is. You might as well compare the price of Swiss wine in London versus that in Denner.

Or think of it this way. If stuff here really is too unbearbaly expensive you can pop acros the border to get it.
If you don't like the price in the UK or in the USA the next border may be a bit too far away to make that practical (unles you live in El Paso, I believe certain er, substances are cheaper on the other side), and the USA doesn't even allow you to import certain types of food.
I guess you read that wrong and got on your high horse. What I wrote there in shortened form is below:

Swiss sold Nan bread and M&S sold Nan Bread.

I am very aware that Nan bread is not a Swiss delicacy. Most of the product prices being ranted about here are not just typical Swiss products but products in general.
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Re: Swiss rip-offs

Talk to anyone running a company service or venue in Switzerland and they will tell you about the barriers and protectionist operations.

Suddenly the rules regarding Fire equipment (Noble Dubliner expansion), sitting outside (Pie Shop Oerlikon), noise complaints (everywhere), smell complaints ( a spiffing microbrewery), refrigeration and storage (a cheesy supplier) and a host of other discretionary requirements that will be rigidly enforced when competition emerges.

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Not wanting to take the risk is the only barrier! As a Brit I can set up a business here, I can't even live In the USA!
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I guess you read that wrong and got on your high horse. What I wrote there in shortened form is below:

Swiss sold Nan bread and M&S sold Nan Bread.

I am very aware that Nan bread is not a Swiss delicacy. Most of the product prices being ranted about here are not just typical Swiss products but products in general.
So what are you telling me?

Because M&S sell it and some mysteriously unnamed Swiss shop also sells it, you are assuming the volumes they are selling must also be the same, even though you admit there isn't really much of a market for it here. Small volume stuff is always going to be more expensive.
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Old 24.08.2011, 16:45
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Talk to anyone running a company service or venue in Switzerland and they will tell you about the barriers and protectionist operations.

Suddenly the rules regarding Fire equipment (Noble Dubliner expansion), sitting outside (Pie Shop Oerlikon), noise complaints (everywhere), smell complaints ( a spiffing microbrewery), refrigeration and storage (a cheesy supplier) and a host of other discretionary requirements that will be rigidly enforced when competition emerges.

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Ah, I see what you're getting at. Thanks for proving my point. I rest my case.
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Your free to go elsewhere, what's the problem.
that's what we do...I went to 6(!) Swiss doctors for a diagnose each with a different diagnose, I went home to ONE doctor and he had another diagnose totally different from the Swiss doctors, and he got it right...and it cost me 50CHF.

Problem is the health insurance is mandatory...don't you know that?
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Old 24.08.2011, 20:57
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Well, compared to the US, the costs are less and the service is better.

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...comparison with US doesn't say much though, especially in terms of health care...
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Old 24.08.2011, 21:55
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So what are you telling me?

Because M&S sell it and some mysteriously unnamed Swiss shop also sells it, you are assuming the volumes they are selling must also be the same, even though you admit there isn't really much of a market for it here. Small volume stuff is always going to be more expensive.
For the same brand of mass market naan bread in the COOP that is sold in the UK? I get CH is a small market, but it gets sold in DE for about 1/3 the CH price. Also, given all the Indians I noted up in Oerlikon when we were living there, I'd say the market for naan is bigger than you might be thinking it is. If there weren't a demand for it, they wouldn't carry it or they'd carry it and see if they could build a market for it with a lower price. It's not like it's gourmet bespoke naan bread fresh from the tandoor.....
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Re: Swiss rip-offs

Make a point and I'll consider whether it is interesting enough on which to comment. So far you're not making any worthwhile that I can see.

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Ah, I see what you're getting at. Thanks for proving my point. I rest my case.
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Old 06.09.2011, 12:58
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Re: Swiss rip-offs

Recently needed a new rear tyre for my bike (with inner tube).
This plus 'work' was 60CHF.
Is this reasonable? Have no previous guidelines........
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Recently needed a new rear tyre for my bike (with inner tube).
This plus 'work' was 60CHF.
Is this reasonable? Have no previous guidelines........
Yes, fair enough. You haven't been ripped off on this.
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Re: Swiss rip-offs

Still looking for a good homous.. havent found anything nearly as good as the Tesco brand stuff yet
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Re: Swiss rip-offs

I went to Jack&Jones in Basel yesterday and the pricing cards of the clothes there have all international prices listed.
A simple blouse was like 60CHF (~53EUR) or 40EUR. Redicilous!

Think I'd rather buy my clothes in Germany (when they are fashionable clothes, most likely not , or simply buy a shitload of nice clothes when back in Holland).
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Old 11.09.2011, 18:21
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Still looking for a good homous.. havent found anything nearly as good as the Tesco brand stuff yet
And you won't, I'm afraid.


I had to buy my first tin of Golden Syrup here the other day. Bearing in mind the last tin I bought in London was 78p, I braced myself for about 4 or 5 francs.

7.60!!! (for the small tin)

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Still looking for a good homous.. havent found anything nearly as good as the Tesco brand stuff yet
Here in the Zurich area you best go into one of the many Turkish or the few Iranian groceries, who generally have best Lebanese Hummus in their shelves. Some of the larger Coops also have it. I suppose that what Tesco has is the same Lebanese stuff as available here. As the Arab community in Greater London outnumbers those in Zurich and Geneva by 10 to 1 , it in Tesco in the UK MUST BE cheaper

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And you won't, I'm afraid.


I had to buy my first tin of Golden Syrup here the other day. Bearing in mind the last tin I bought in London was 78p, I braced myself for about 4 or 5 francs.

7.60!!! (for the small tin)

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Who here wants "Golden Syrup" ? Nobody, except a few expats ! Look at this from Wiki.... :
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... Golden syrup is widely available in India, United Kingdom, Germany, Norway, Sweden, Ireland, Canada, Australia, Malaysia, New Zealand, the Philippines, Singapore and South Africa, but harder to find in the United States outside Louisiana, where it often appears in Cajun cuisine. It can usually be found in major grocery stores and baking/cooking specialty shops .....

And so, you have to be grateful that it even is on offer somewhere !
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Re: Swiss rip-offs

Hmmm... I donīt know about some people but I earn 2x more here than in the UK (same company, same position) so even though the prices here are higher, I am not complaining because I still get to save more.
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Hmmm... I donīt know about some people but I earn 2x more here than in the UK (same company, same position) so even though the prices here are higher, I am not complaining because I still get to save more.
Not to complain as you are happy is nice of you, but
A) you have to be aware of the point that you earn more simply DUE to the higher price level in all fields (almost all)
B) you however SHOULD complain in case of high prices either caused by monopolies or by unfair trading practices
C) obvious is that a much larger home-market should generally have price-reducing effects, but this does not mean that everything is to be accepted

to give an example. Coop announcing that meat would come into the shops with a reduction of 50% and then make lots of ado about meat in their shops being reduced by some 5% is doing foulplay. The same company talking about some suppliers not handing over the € reduction from 1.45 to 1.20 but omitting to say that in many instances where there purchasing was done in € or $ or Ģ but where they failed to hand over a single % is doing serious foulplay. Migros doing similar plays betraying the public over the fact that much stuff is produced by M owned factories in the € zone is not better. Sure, Migros is "owned" by millions of co-operative shareholders and not some big chaps, but most consumers in reality are NOT "Genossenschafter". So that, while M products in the 60ies were available at around 60% of the prices of companies like LVZ, KVZ, LVS, etc, all of them predecessors of Coop, the M products are now on the same level as Coop stuff, and this is not what it should be.

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I went to Jack&Jones in Basel yesterday and the pricing cards of the clothes there have all international prices listed.
A simple blouse was like 60CHF (~53EUR) or 40EUR. Redicilous!
Jack&Jones is actually one of the few clothing chains that has used reasonable exchange rates in the past. They were usually around 1:1.5 (back when the exchange rate was in the 1.40...1.60 range) while most other chains used a rip-off 1:2 exchange rate. Seems they haven't adjusted their CHF prices yet...
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