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Old 02.01.2014, 20:57
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Re: Swiss rip-offs

You can go out for dinner and drinks in rural Slovakia for under 10chf for 2 people - it costs over 60chf in Switzerland.

What a complete rip off!!!



Huge plateful of Sushi 7chf in Macau - 70chf in Switzerland.

What a complete rip off!!



(Seriously - if you are pissed off with the prices - and base your entire existence on the cost of stuff - why not bugger off and live somewhere cheaper?)

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Old 02.01.2014, 21:48
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(Seriously - if you are pissed off with the prices - and base your entire existence on the cost of stuff - why not bugger off and live somewhere cheaper?)

A bit ironic coming from someone who defends everyone's right to an opinion on a public forum...especially in "car for sale" threads, no?
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Old 02.01.2014, 21:54
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A bit ironic coming from someone who defends everyone's right to an opinion on a public forum...especially in "car for sale" threads, no?
I am just staggered by how many people bitch about prices here when 99% of them made the choice to come here - and then make the decision to stay.

The car for sale threads are an example of expats trying to ripoff other expats - and yet they bitch about Swiss prices!!

You may have missed the memo on ironic:

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Old 02.01.2014, 22:12
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However a huge number of Brits fly to GVA airport, only to get to the French Alps.
(just compare the number of fights between the UK and GVA airport on easyjet.com during the summer and during the ski season)
many people in winter fly into ZRH just to continue to Vorarlberg and Tirol. Nothing wrong. And people at both airports are happy. Not so happy are people at "Schweiz Tourismus" and "Zürich Tourismus".

Here you actually HIT the idea of Migros about co-operating with EasyJet. There clearly in summer is lots of unused capacity between ZRH/GVA/BSL on one side and London Luton on the other. Hotelplan may that way capture a far better slice of the CH-UK holiday market
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Old 02.01.2014, 22:16
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What are these grey-market tickets some of you keep mentioning?
Is it something of the past?
No, it is what low-price agents sell all the time
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Old 03.01.2014, 00:49
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Re: Swiss rip-offs

The sad thing is that, despite the high prices and the mediocre pseudo-service, many of those rip-off joints aren't making massive profits. So there's an opportunity for someone, ready for the taking. Of course, it will help if you're Swiss...
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How about when you leave Switzerland the Kreisburo charges you for the processing of handing back your residency permit.

So you get charges to the very last minute of officially being here.

Another one ....

A Lodge "Logic" pan costs 11 dollars in the US.

The same exact model costs 187 francs here.

I once saw a plain soap dish, nothing special, in Jelmoli for 200chf.
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Old 05.01.2014, 00:18
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How about when you leave Switzerland the Kreisburo charges you for the processing of handing back your residency permit.

So you get charges to the very last minute of officially being here.

Another one ....

A Lodge "Logic" pan costs 11 dollars in the US.

The same exact model costs 187 francs here.

I once saw a plain soap dish, nothing special, in Jelmoli for 200chf.
One trade off for reasonably low taxes is you have to pay directly for any services you use. And why shouldn't you?
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Re: Swiss rip-offs

[QUOTE=Wollishofener;2053652]Sure, and in case of having booked out of FDH, you simply throw away the ticket-slip FDH-ZRH and get checked in at ZRH. It should work with INN + BSL/MLH + MXP as well

I don't think the airlines will allow you to do what you've just described. You'll have to travel all the portion of the flights in their specific order.
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Old 05.01.2014, 11:37
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On that note, I was just checking some flights. From ZRH it's 1250chf per person, from Frankfurt or Munich it's 950 per person. So if we fly as a couple it's an instant savings of 600chf. Factor in the trip to either of those cities and you're still left with over 400chf to spend in your holiday on stuff

Mind you, I'm not calling this a rip-off necessarily, but I am annoyed at such a price difference (same airline).

Oh no, I would definitely call a rip-off the prices of Swiss Air on my preferred route. I used to travel with the Czechs but that option is no better nowadays.
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Old 05.01.2014, 12:06
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I don't think the airlines will allow you to do what you've just described. You'll have to travel all the portion of the flights in their specific order.
Plus there aren't actually any airlines that fly from FDH to ZRH anyway.

Although I believe the trick does work from Basel via Zürich but only if the BSL-ZRH segment is on a SBB train.
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Old 05.01.2014, 12:42
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The sad thing is that, despite the high prices and the mediocre pseudo-service, many of those rip-off joints aren't making massive profits. So there's an opportunity for someone, ready for the taking. Of course, it will help if you're Swiss...
With registration and paper work it might but to run business smoothly it is another story. Good customer service and global mindset are needed after all
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How about house cleaners running at CHF40-50 per hour. Amazing!
Wow! My parents' cleaner makes 27 CHF an hour and we think that's a lot. But if you hire them via an agent, may be more.

Also: Nothing wrong with high prices if the salaries are accordingly high. And cleaning personnel is just one example of a profession who make a decent salary in Switzerland as opposed to many other places.
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Old 06.01.2014, 00:48
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How about when you leave Switzerland the Kreisburo charges you for the processing of handing back your residency permit.

So you get charges to the very last minute of officially being here.

Another one ....

A Lodge "Logic" pan costs 11 dollars in the US.

The same exact model costs 187 francs here.

I once saw a plain soap dish, nothing special, in Jelmoli for 200chf.
Are you referring to the Lodge cast iron pans? They were originally made in the USA entirely, now a lot of the production is asia. If they are shipped here, they can cost a bit. However, I don't see the problem. It's about marketing a demand, it's why some brand names are worth a lot in some countries, and little in others.


Take Levi jeans...20 to 40 in the US, and 250 here. In France they are expensive as well. Emile Henry bakeware, sold in the US for a Tajine dish, 120 to 170, in France, 20 to 40. This is kind of common knowledge though, the whole concept. It's not at all a Swiss thing.


As far as being charged to hand back in something they will have to do paperwork on, why do you think you get a discount because you are leaving?


However, not sure what you are talking about. When family of mine left, there were no charges.
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Old 06.01.2014, 01:02
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Wow! My parents' cleaner makes 27 CHF an hour and we think that's a lot. But if you hire them via an agent, may be more.

Also: Nothing wrong with high prices if the salaries are accordingly high. And cleaning personnel is just one example of a profession who make a decent salary in Switzerland as opposed to many other places.
Working as a cleaner is inconsistent work. People who can afford cleaners get annoyed that they have to pay a wage that allows these people to come at the employers convenience.


If it takes 3500 a month to get by on, people need to be appropriately. Cleaner jobs in other countries are often filled by people working under the table. If your cleaning person is here legally, they are going to expect a living wage. If they have to commute between 2 to 3 different jobs per day, to make the same salary as if they worked at Manor selling shoes, then you have to expect a price difference to have the luxury of your own personal cleaner.


But that just makes sense with the whole mentality people have that come here. They think they are gold because they are getting a vastly different wage then back at home, and, oh my shock, they aren't at all that special. No WAY I am going to pay a cleaning person enough to survive each month. Back in X home country, I am doing them a favor giving them work.


I don't see how if someone is either cleaning your place a full time job, or doing it on their days off, they shouldn't get paid more then minimum wage. No different then a mechanic, hairstylist, chef, tailor, seamstress, and so on. All these things you can do yourself, and if their are not working, they are waiting for a customer.
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Re: Swiss rip-offs

Rotho swiss made 40L pedal bin.

Rotho website 50chf.

German shop 28chf equivalent.
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Old 08.01.2014, 15:45
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Rotho swiss made 40L pedal bin.

Rotho website 50chf.

German shop 28chf equivalent.
Rotho website is in CH right? Would they also sell these products at stores in CH as well? I rarely see a company that would compete with a lower price to the stores that sell their products.
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Yes direct from own website but other sites are only a few chf cheaper.
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Re: Swiss rip-offs

Here is something that I simply do not understand... Not a rip-off but just simply absurd...

Fly Swiss Airlines from Cairo to Zurich return always costs more than flying Swiss Airlines from Cairo to Geneva return via Zurich. In other words, enjoy four Swiss flights for less than 2 Swiss flights !

And Cairo - London via Zurich on Swiss is usually less expensive than flying Cairo - Zurich or Cairo - Zurich - Geneva !
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Here is something that I simply do not understand... Not a rip-off but just simply absurd...

Fly Swiss Airlines from Cairo to Zurich return always costs more than flying Swiss Airlines from Cairo to Geneva return via Zurich. In other words, enjoy four Swiss flights for less than 2 Swiss flights !

And Cairo - London via Zurich on Swiss is usually less expensive than flying Cairo - Zurich or Cairo - Zurich - Geneva !
Your last example isn't a good example of a Swiss Ripoff. It is simply a classic example of hub-stealing. All the main airlines do it. It is cheaper to fly Zurich-London-Capetown on BA than Zurich-Capetown on Swiss. You can save a few hundred CHF flying over Munich/Frankfurt with Lufthansa than with Swiss direct.

You have to make a time/money calculation to work out whether you ultimately benefit.

The main European hubs (IIRC) are:
Frankfurt - LH
Amsterdam - KLM
Paris - AF
LHR - BA
Madrid - Iberia
Zuirch - Swiss
Milan - Alitalia

I'd avoid the latter like the plague
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