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Old 09.05.2016, 21:34
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Sorry, run that by me again... High streets dominated by charity shops?

As for Amazon, economies generated by operating an online model do not explain a 160% mark-up (on retail price, no less!). That would be largely down to pure profiteering on the part of the Swiss store. And by the way, Media Markt is not exactly short of buying power itself.
Isn't Media Markt a franchise chain though like Burger King? You pay your intro fee or whatever, feed a percentage to the Mothership, but set your own store's pricing as you want.

I stand to be corrected, as I don't know the facts.
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Old 09.05.2016, 22:02
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Isn't Media Markt a franchise chain though like Burger King? You pay your intro fee or whatever, feed a percentage to the Mothership, but set your own store's pricing as you want.

I stand to be corrected, as I don't know the facts.
They are.

From their website, translated:

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Media markt stores are controlled in a decentralized organization of the country management of Media Markt Management AG in Dietikon. Each market is also an executive co-owner of his house and responsible for assortment, merchandise, sales, marketing / advertising, pricing and selection. He operates an independent entrepreneur as managing partner and benefits at the same time from the advantages of the group, if he uses the services of Media Markt Management AG in claim. This results in cost savings that are passed on directly to customers.
They've only just got round to having an online presence so I guess the pricing etc for that is controlled by their head office.
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Re: Swiss rip-offs

Le Chat Botté restaurant in Geneva, group of 4 each ordering an expresso to finish the meal, 32fr added to the bill.
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Re: Swiss rip-offs

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Le Chat Botté restaurant in Geneva, group of 4 each ordering an expresso to finish the meal, 32fr added to the bill.
It's a Michelin star rated restaurant and has 18 points in the Gault et Millau...Not so surprising IMO. I guess your espressi did come with some friandises?
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Does anybody understand why Payot is so expensive for French learning books? I wanted to buy some recently and they had markups 60-90%. I do get the need for markups, but these books travel a few kms from France. I ended up buying a Canadian one which was quite good value, the markup was much less than on the ones from France.
Price markups for print products in German like newspapers and other periodicals are also marked up by 60-90% when compared to Euro price. However, in this case it's demanded by the foreign publishers (not sure to what extent this applies to your case) as Coop recently tried to get them reduced.

Perhaps somebody (Tom perhaps?) can comment on whether the same applies to italian newspapers and periodicals sold in Ticono?
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Price markups for print products in German like newspapers and other periodicals are also marked up by 60-90% when compared to Euro price. However, in this case it's demanded by the foreign publishers (not sure to what extent this applies to your case) as Coop recently tried to get them reduced.?
Is that so! I thought only Australia suffered from that sort of preferential treatment. I could imagine in the case of newspapers/periodicals a higher transport cost too, since time is of the essence - not so for the average conjugation text.

My feeling is that the prices in the language learning section did not reflect the average markups on fiction etc. I vaguely recall, when buying a French book at Payot that cost 300CHF, a while back that yes, it was more, but only in an order of 20% or so. But as you can see from the fact that I'm stuck in the language learning section, my experience of buying French books is somewhat limited.
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Old 10.05.2016, 13:17
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It's a Michelin star rated restaurant and has 18 points in the Gault et Millau...Not so surprising IMO. I guess your espressi did come with some friandises?
There's a reasonable chance the coffee in that Michelin-starred restaurant came from a 57-Rappen (or -centimes) Nespresso capsule.
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It's a Michelin star rated restaurant and has 18 points in the Gault et Millau...Not so surprising IMO. I guess your espressi did come with some friandises?
Yes it did! It is indeed a gastronomic restaurant with real quality food; but as their meals and especially the wine is already so expensive I expected they would calm down a bit by the time coffee arrived :-)
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Yes it did! It is indeed a gastronomic restaurant with real quality food; but as their meals and especially the wine is already so expensive I expected they would calm down a bit by the time coffee arrived :-)
It must have been a strong espresso and you got charged for the coffeine
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Old 14.05.2016, 12:03
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There's a reasonable chance the coffee in that Michelin-starred restaurant came from a 57-Rappen (or -centimes) Nespresso capsule.
I'm not much of a Nespresso fan, but in at least half of the gastronomic establishments I've come across it would actually result in an improvement.
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Re: Swiss rip-offs

Pussy cat worming tablets. CHF 80 for 6 from the tierarzt (vet). Did try to buy from the Qualipet store but the assistant wouldn't give me a price or sell them unless I effectively had a note from the vet (on the basis that this was the only way she could be sure she was giving me the right type of worming product)!!!! I have since checked amazon.co.uk, got exactly the product I need delivered to Swissy for just CHF 30

Bicycle racks for cars. CHF 500 for the type we need. Or bless the international services of amazon.co.uk at just CHF 92 delivered to my home - this time I thought to check before just buying.

Weirdly, crystal glassware and power tools seem to be cheaper in CH than in UK!
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Old 16.05.2016, 16:34
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H&M online jeans

Swiss: 69 chf
Germany: 25 euros
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Old 16.05.2016, 16:50
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Re: Swiss rip-offs

Porsche 911 Turbo S Cabriolet

Switzerland: from CHF 262,500, including 8% VAT
Germany: from €215,962 (CHF 238,850), including 19% VAT

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Re: Swiss rip-offs

A friend of mine said that his friend had an Audi and took it to a Swiss dealer because there was a warning light on. The Swiss dealer said it was a big job of a few hundred Francs and the guy needed to pay for a hire car for 2 days while the work was carried out. So the Audi was taken to a German dealer who diagnosed the fix as replacing a relay for a few tens of Euros.
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Porsche 911 Turbo S Cabriolet

Switzerland: from CHF 262,500, including 8% VAT + 4 % Car Tax + CO2 Tax
Germany: from €215,962 (CHF 238,850), including 19% VAT

Self import of the German one will set you back ~CHF 236'300

CO2 Tax Calculator: http://www.bfe.admin.ch/themen/00507...x.html?lang=de
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Old 25.05.2016, 19:02
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Self import of the German one will set you back ~CHF 236'300

CO2 Tax Calculator: http://www.bfe.admin.ch/themen/00507...x.html?lang=de
Does that include the German VAT refund?
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Re: Swiss rip-offs

A new Mercdes car in CH with all the discounts applied, best price among three different dealers: 60k.
Imported from Poland, same exact options, with discounts: 50.5k.
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Old 26.05.2016, 00:32
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Re: Swiss rip-offs

To the above three posters, my comparison was a wry joke and yes, the Swiss have nicely protected their new car sales by imposing the CO2 tax. You need to buy a car abroad, wait six months and then import it. The comparison for second-hand cars (often excluding exotics, for some reason) is usually even more in favour of purchasing abroad.

At least the manufacturers are starting to wake up to this problem by offering items like improved accessories as standard, free servicing and "Euro bonuses" to Swiss purchasers, so that even if the Swiss car still costs more, you get a little more for your money.
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2.5 tonne car, 149g/km CO2 - there is no additional CO2 tax levied. This tax punishes the high emission/mass ratio.
And in my case the trim and options are exactly the same. However the price difference is not that dramatic when comparing DE and CH, but I don't know what are typical discounts in DE.
Regarding used car: I would never buy a used car in Poland, and by extension, in Germany. The (export) used car market is full of fraud - odometer reversed, repaired heavy damage sold as "accident-free", stolen vehicles with legal numbers "transplanted". Used but relatively new and expensive - only in CH.
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9.90 CHF for SIX chicken mcnuggets at mcdonalds. Really?!?!?
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