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Old 31.05.2016, 23:11
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Wow, that is a rip-off, and makes no sense!!!
And strangely implemented!

I had a colleague who severely crashed his car and it was written off.
He went along to the Strassenverkehrsamt some time later with the documents for his new vehicle and they gave him the bent and twisted remains of his original number plates.
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Old 01.06.2016, 09:29
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Wow, that is a rip-off, and makes no sense!!!
It makes perfect sense. You are paying a storage fee.

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Old 01.06.2016, 09:59
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I thought it was free to drop off a number plate?
Like many things, it depends on the canton.
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Re: Swiss rip-offs

I once changed my watch battery in Manor and paid chf 40. few weeks ago I changed the battery for the same watch in Germany and paid €5.95. I don't particularly like to shop outside CH but here the prices are too high.
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Old 01.06.2016, 12:57
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So far as I understand
If I permanently hand in a number plate then that is free.
If I hand in a number plate that I later want to collect and use again then that costs?
Kanton Solothurn says extension costs 50 CHF, looks like deposit for the first 12 months is free.

I would very much like to hear Enaj's full story, and if he actually bought the service he was looking for or if perhaps it's just a case of lost in translation.
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Old 01.06.2016, 17:31
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It is the equivalent of $50 because people are a lot poorer in Switzerland than they actually think, as both convenience and high quality food are relative to income a lot more expensive than in "poor" countries.

For consumer goods like imported cars and electronics, the low VAT and low income tax makes it appear that there is a "high quality" or rich life to be had, but you are actually poor or in a poor country, if you cannot casually afford casual food. IMO!

It would be no different in North Korea, where convenience food or high quality meats are unaffordable to eat regularly. Everything has to be imported, quality is generally low to middling, but nothing special. If it is 3x the numerical cost $45 instead of $15, and you are not earning three times the numerical salary, you are living in the Swiss delusion.
Something is seriously wrong with you and your twisted views of what is rich and poor, what salary is necessary or isn't necessary to live here, what constitutes a good-quality life and what doesn't.

I suggest you move to some country that is actually poor - there are plenty you know - and I dare you to make the same ridiculous claims and comparisons again. Maybe even North Korea would happily take you in, given in your view, the two are essentially the same.


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Old 01.06.2016, 18:27
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I once changed my watch battery in Manor and paid chf 40. few weeks ago I changed the battery for the same watch in Germany and paid €5.95.
But that may be because you got a battery worth 5.95 the second time and one worth 40 the first. I've had a watchmaker be pretty irritated with me because when he's opened up my watch to replace the battery it's a rubbish one.

My own experience on that is that's something you get good value for here, maybe not surprisingly as there is a lot of competition.
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Old 01.06.2016, 18:31
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But that may be because you got a battery worth 5.95 the second time and one worth 40 the first. I've had a watchmaker be pretty irritated with me because when he's opened up my watch to replace the battery it's a rubbish one.

My own experience on that is that's something you get good value for here, maybe not surprisingly as there is a lot of competition.
"I've had a watchmaker be pretty irritated with me because when he's opened up my watch to replace the battery it's a rubbish one." Do not believe every salesman looking for repeat business?

If you really want to pay 5.95 for a watch battery I can sell you plenty
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Old 01.06.2016, 18:35
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"If you really want to pay 5.95 for a watch battery I can sell you plenty
I once bought a dozen watches with batteries in them in China for a few dollars each. The batteries were all lousy, but it didn't really matter because every one of the watches fell apart before the batteries ran out.
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Old 01.06.2016, 19:09
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But that may be because you got a battery worth 5.95 the second time and one worth 40 the first. I've had a watchmaker be pretty irritated with me because when he's opened up my watch to replace the battery it's a rubbish one.

My own experience on that is that's something you get good value for here, maybe not surprisingly as there is a lot of competition.


40 CHF for a watch battery? Noooooo.


Unless it is a very specific one that is not used anymore. Some vintage (Smiths) car clocks use really weird sized backup batteries, with an unusual voltage but even these are only about 25 CHF.


Your watchmaker was probably reacting to cheapo cells which will leak, and ruin the watch. Even if they are reduced to just shortening bracelets and replacing cells, most of them have a love of the devices that only a propellor head can fathom. (Trust me, I have about 10k worth of equipment for repairing clocks and watches- yes, I am a propellorhead.)
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Old 01.06.2016, 19:11
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40 CHF for a watch battery? Noooooo.


Unless it is a very specific one that is not used anymore. Some vintage (Smiths) car clocks use really weird sized backup batteries, with an unusual voltage but even these are only about 25 CHF.


Your watchmaker was probably reacting to cheapo cells which will leak, and ruin the watch. Even if they are reduced to just shortening bracelets and replacing cells, most of them have a love of the devices that only a propellor head can fathom. (Trust me, I have about 10k worth of equipment for repairing clocks and watches- yes, I am a propellorhead.)
I confess, I haven't paid 40CHF here, just some normal amount that seemed reasonable, but if it had been 6CHF, I would have assumed the worst!
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Old 01.06.2016, 19:44
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I confess, I haven't paid 40CHF here, just some normal amount that seemed reasonable, but if it had been 6CHF, I would have assumed the worst!
standard watch batteries are cheap. even for the best branded ones. the difference in price is due to the difference in labour cost and the swiss factor
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standard watch batteries are cheap. even for the best branded ones. the difference in price is due to the difference in labour cost and the swiss factor
In the UK, none of the normal places would change the battery on a genuine Longenes watch belonging to my fiancée. They all needed to send it away to get a quote except 1 jeweller who charged £38 for 2 minutes work. CHF 40 would be a bargain-
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Kanton Solothurn says extension costs 50 CHF, looks like deposit for the first 12 months is free.

I would very much like to hear Enaj's full story, and if he actually bought the service he was looking for or if perhaps it's just a case of lost in translation.

At the age of 62 my husband decided to give up riding a motor bike and sold it at the end of March.


January he had already paid the insurance and tax on the motor bike.


The tax for the whole year was 38Fr. Middle of April we received a bill from the MFK in which 9.50Fr had been deducted from the 38Fr. for the first quarter of this year. This left us with an overpayment of 28.50Fr. to which they added another 21.50Fr to cover the cost of 50Fr. for depositing the number plate.


Kanton Solothurn I suppose!


Am not quite sure what you mean by extension and what service he was supposed to be looking for by returning a number plate from a motor bike he doesn't have any more. Nothing lost in translation I assure you!
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At the age of 62 my husband decided to give up riding a motor bike and sold it at the end of March.


January he had already paid the insurance and tax on the motor bike.


The tax for the whole year was 38Fr. Middle of April we received a bill from the MFK in which 9.50Fr had been deducted from the 38Fr. for the first quarter of this year. This left us with an overpayment of 28.50Fr. to which they added another 21.50Fr to cover the cost of 50Fr. for depositing the number plate.


Kanton Solothurn I suppose!


Am not quite sure what you mean by extension and what service he was supposed to be looking for by returning a number plate from a motor bike he doesn't have any more. Nothing lost in translation I assure you!
There is no fee for returning plates or cancelling the grey card in Kt. SO:

https://www.so.ch/fileadmin/internet...nd_Schiffe.pdf

What the hell did they charge you on what grounds?
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Kanton Solothurn I suppose!

Am not quite sure what you mean by extension and what service he was supposed to be looking for by returning a number plate from a motor bike he doesn't have any more. Nothing lost in translation I assure you!
Returning the plates is free iin Kt SO, as confirmed by aSissInTheUS (thanks for that).

So probably some kind of error occured, be that on your side or the police. Only you can solve that riddle.
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At the age of 62 my husband decided to give up riding a motor bike
Why?

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Why?

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Because he no longer felt he could pull off tight leathers, unlike your good self.


















You simply don't care how you look.
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You simply don't care how you look.
True, very true.

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It makes perfect sense. You are paying a storage fee.

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Actually not a storage fee, since when you get a new vehicle they give you the old plates for free, assuming that they're still yours; i.e. if it's within the year that they hold it for you, or that you've already paid for extending the hold.

I think this fee (30CHF in ZH) when getting them back for the same car is an "admin" fee and a deterrent of sort. If I had a car with expensive insurance and tax, and time on my hands, I could go on Friday, take the plates, drive for the weekend, and then Monday morning give them back, thus drastically reducing the insurance/tax costs for the year (with the credits, and refunds).

Putting a fee acts as a friction cost on top of wasted time, etc.


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And strangely implemented!

I had a colleague who severely crashed his car and it was written off.
He went along to the Strassenverkehrsamt some time later with the documents for his new vehicle and they gave him the bent and twisted remains of his original number plates.
You can always "forfeit" the old plates (if they're deposited) and ask for new ones. They'll just charge you the normal 40 CHF issuing fee (20 per plate).
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