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Old 17.05.2011, 11:45
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I guess it is a competition thing, I was at a well known electronic goods distributor (dont get me wrong i have a cash) , but they were selling them for 100chf take it or leave it , If i would have known about fust it would have been worthwhile going to fust, but my alternative at that point was not to buy and search around on a saturday, actually i should have used the internet, silly me, the point is people in Switzerland have the disposable income, so companies will "try it on" with astronomical mark-ups , in the UK people would walk away as competitors are cheaper , here there is not that much competition.
No my dear - it's much simpler than that. Some people bother to do research (no 100% success guarantee though) and some don't. It pretty much ends there.

Disclaimer - I know that Switzerland is more expensive, but there are ways around if one is not lazy.

Sorry, over-simplification, but sometimes this "somebody should do that for me"-attitude really gets my goat...
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Old 17.05.2011, 11:48
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The laundry wanted 60 bucks for dry-cleaning a dress - come on, you can buy a new one at H&M for the same money! I took it to Germany and paid 10 Euros.
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Old 17.05.2011, 11:51
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That's why when my dear fancy, stiff upper-lip colleagues complain about IKEA, I smash chairs on their heads.
Well, at least they are cheap to replace...
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Old 17.05.2011, 11:54
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60 CHF? WOW

The laundry around the corner takes 15 for normal dress, 20 for long/complicated ones. They actually do a really good job, and it's a really nice shop where no one can speak a word of Swiss German

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The laundry wanted 60 bucks for dry-cleaning a dress - come on, you can buy a new one at H&M for the same money! I took it to Germany and paid 10 Euros.
COOP are charging 11chf to wash and iron a shirt, at that price wear it 3 times and get a new one could be an option.
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COOP are charging 11chf to wash and iron a shirt,
Price in Frankfurt: 1€.
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Old 17.05.2011, 12:27
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COOP are charging 11chf to wash and iron a shirt, at that price wear it 3 times and get a new one could be an option.
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Price in Frankfurt: 1€.
Price range at any Swiss dry cleaner I have seen so far: 2.5 - 4 CHF.

Honestly: I do not believe the 11 CHFs.
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Price range at any Swiss dry cleaner I have seen so far: 2.5 - 4 CHF.

Honestly: I do not believe the 11 CHFs.
Sorry i meant pants 10.90chf, Shirts 5.90chf ..

http://www.coop.ch/pb/site/common/ge...Preisliste.pdf
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Old 17.05.2011, 12:51
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I moved from the most expensive city in Australia - which is not as cheap a place as you'd think. I found a lot of things on par, some things cheaper, some things more expensive.

Things that make me go ouch:

- meat. CHF27/kilo for basic minced beef, almost a staple in my house. Or was. Think I'll become vegetarian.


One good thing for me here is actually meat quality (despite the expense).*

I was a vegetarian in the UK and when I moved here (a long time ago), I found meat generally of a better qualiy than back home. So I became a carnivore again.
Though I now concede that the UK has improved a lot - especially in restaurants............

* Please note I am not Argentinian, so am probably inexperienced when it comes to beef
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Old 17.05.2011, 12:52
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Thanks VI, yes a standard ironing board, much like the one you have shown above is 100chf, living here you start to accept things are exspensive, but when you look in detail you begin to realise certain people ( ironing board sellers ) could be making astronomical amounts considering the mark-up they are putting on each item, I also just bought a satellite dish holder (from a well known elecronic goods distributor in Zurich ), this is 5 bits of metal, which i had to bolt together myself, it cost me 145chf..
But this is exactly the sort of thing I'm talking about. It's all well-and-good to moan about the fact that a satellite dish holder costs CHF145 here, but it took me about two minutes to head over to eBay and find one for 29 quid, including shipping to Switzerland:

Satellite Mounting Kit

It would have come into Switzerland duty free, and you'd have it about four days after you ordered it, if my experience is anything to go by.

These days, you can buy pretty much anything from pretty much anywhere via the internet. If you continue to choose to buy local, that's a conscious choice. You're aware that there's a cheaper alternative out there, but for whatever reason you choose not to avail yourself of that option....
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Old 17.05.2011, 12:59
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Amulances.

Unless I'm so bloody that a taxi refuses to take me, then please don't call one for me. I'll make my own way to hospital or die trying.
Indeed...I know (of) a guy in Zurich that gashed his head, blood was pouring, he fainted, he came to, first thing he gasped: "don't call an ambulance". If you've got a large excess and not a lot of money, that can break you.
This actually is something that concerns me. Even if your excess isn't an issue, your health insurance (well mine, anyway) will only pay 50% of transport/rescue costs (and then up to a limit).

It would surprise me if there weren't people who've hesitated at calling an ambulance, worrying about the cost ("Just leave it a few minutes, it might get better").

I wonder if this policy has killed anybody.

I'll rephrase that.

I wonder how many people this policy has killed.
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But this is exactly the sort of thing I'm talking about. It's all well-and-good to moan about the fact that a satellite dish holder costs CHF145 here, but it took me about two minutes to head over to eBay and find one for 29 quid, including shipping to Switzerland:

Satellite Mounting Kit

It would have come into Switzerland duty free, and you'd have it about four days after you ordered it, if my experience is anything to go by.

These days, you can buy pretty much anything from pretty much anywhere via the internet. If you continue to choose to buy local, that's a conscious choice. You're aware that there's a cheaper alternative out there, but for whatever reason you choose not to avail yourself of that option....
Agreed , but two points to bear in mind,
  • you would probably be hit with another 40chf in "post" transport costs and taxes.
  • That is not what i wanted, its a stand-alone unit (not bolt-in) which was not available on ebay/amazon.
point is the article in question is made in the czech republic, i could not see it be very exspensive to buy, ....but there are no alternatives here.... ...that competition issue again.
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Old 17.05.2011, 13:13
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you would probably be hit with another 40chf in "post" transport costs and taxes.
No, you wouldn't. A little research would show you that 1) postage costs were clearly spelled out in the ad, at GBP9, and 2) that this item, including postage, falls under the duty-free threshold from SwissPost. This item would turn up at your door without any additional payment required.

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What, something like this, for GBP26 with GBP15 for shipping? Which, incidentally, would also sneak in just under the customs limit so no additional payments required.

I'm not going to research every satellite dish stand on the market, but my point is this: you believed that it was available elsewhere, more cheaply. If that's the case, in this day and age, I absolutely refuse to believe you couldn't find a way of buying it and having it shipped to you.
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Old 17.05.2011, 13:15
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Sorry i meant pants 10.90chf, Shirts 5.90chf ..

http://www.coop.ch/pb/site/common/ge...Preisliste.pdf
That's still ridiculously expensive for Swiss standards. Most dry cleaners do them somewhere around 3 CHF! You need to compare a bit more.
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Old 17.05.2011, 13:33
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I haven't heard too many people complaining about taxes.
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No, you wouldn't. A little research would show you that 1) postage costs were clearly spelled out in the ad, at GBP9, and 2) that this item, including postage, falls under the duty-free threshold from SwissPost. This item would turn up at your door without any additional payment required.
Im not sure about that, i have recieved some items via swiss post, and then i am charged an additional amount which can sometimes be considerable .. this is levied independently by swiss post. annoyed actually as this was above and beyond any advertised postage cost on ebay.

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What, something like this, for GBP26 with GBP15 for shipping? Which, incidentally, would also sneak in just under the customs limit so no additional payments required.

I'm not going to research every satellite dish stand on the market, but my point is this: you believed that it was available elsewhere, more cheaply. If that's the case, in this day and age, I absolutely refuse to believe you couldn't find a way of buying it and having it shipped to you.
Point taken , but i have not seen it anywhere else in Switzerland...and those "additional" postage costs levied by swiss post can be substantial. The variety and availability of goods in Switzerland ..means exorbitant prices can be charged, and people will pay it.
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Old 17.05.2011, 14:04
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I haven't heard too many people complaining about taxes.
You've not spoken with many people living in Basel Stadt then.
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Price range at any Swiss dry cleaner I have seen so far: 2.5 - 4 CHF.

Honestly: I do not believe the 11 CHFs.
Just for ironing. Show me wash and iron for less than 4chf and they'll have a new customer!
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Old 17.05.2011, 14:36
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Im not sure about that, i have recieved some items via swiss post, and then i am charged an additional amount which can sometimes be considerable .. this is levied independently by swiss post. annoyed actually as this was above and beyond any advertised postage cost on ebay.

Oh, for heaven's sake. You're not sure about it but you're too lazy to actually do a little research on your own. Surely you've lived in Switzerland long enough to realise that if there's a rule, as surely as day follows night there will be a rulebook somewhere with all of the details spelled out very clearly, if only you'd bother to look for it.

Swiss Customs Rules

It's clear as day. If your purchase is under CHF62-, it's free of all charges. If it's over CHF62-, you pay a customs clearance fee of CHF18- plus duty at 8%. Armed with this information, you can do all your calculations before you order something online to understand whether it will be cheaper to buy it abroad or to purchase it locally.

In your case, CHF145- is the price of ignorance. Armed with Google, eBay and the Swisspost regulations, maybe you'll be able to find a better price next time.
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Old 17.05.2011, 14:54
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Re: Swiss rip-offs

I have (fortunately) no idea how much they charge for an ambulance out there, but you guys are kinda scarring me... Is it really that expensive in relation to other countries in Europe? Should I print a huge sign to put inside my wallet reading "IF RUN OVER, DO NOT CALL AN AMBULANCE"?
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