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Re: So, is sometimes the "Swiss way" kind of rude?

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Hi,
I do not throw on the ground candy or anything keep them in my pockets until i find a bin...

And I thought we Swiss are the ones without a sense for humor.

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Re: So, is sometimes the "Swiss way" kind of rude?

I have a Swiss wife, we just moved here on the 7th of July, and I've had 2 incidences already... I'm a stand your ground kind of guy, unless I know I'm wrong or can be proven. Day before yesterday I'm out in a little green patch letting my Border Collie/ Australian Shepard mix do her business, and I hear a "Hallo" from up high, I turn around to see a guy wagging his finger at me and shaking his head. I'm from Seattle (well not from, just lived there since 1996), so I pull the plastic bag from my pocket and lift it up and waggle it at him, and stare hard (my best Iowa farm boy passive aggressive smile, that says bring it on b*&ch) and he went back in side. Then yesterday, I'm at a play park here in Chur, I'm with my 3.5 year old daughter and my dog, we are playing on the slides and the spring string roller thingy and a woman comes of Pakistani or other Middle east origin comes and points a finger at me and waggles it saying dogs are forbidden in this park. I checked the signs going in, and only drugs and alcohol were forbidden. But I do have a short attention span an have been know to miss read directions before so I apologized and left... when I got out of the gate, I looked at the signs again and it showed a dog on a leash, which is what I had Shyla on, and it was not forbidden. So I marched back in and went up to the woman and told her she speaks false and knows nothing and that she can go and pound salt, and should learn how to read.
I'm just not a fan of this waggle of the finger... I want to grab and break waggling fingers. ;-)

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Re: So, is sometimes the "Swiss way" kind of rude?

@ Toothcentral: Actually my husband claims this finger wagging is a "Chur thing" where people feel it is their duty to show you when you are in the wrong (somehow they think they are better or know better)... I remember a situation with an old woman in our village (You know, one of those old people who have nothing better to do than stare out the window all day long and tell people what to do *lol*) My best friend was visiting from Canada, my son was newborn and we were admiring a magnolia tree in full bloom across the street. It had at least 200,000 flowers and my friend picked one. The woman completely flipped out at us from her window with that wagging finger. You can imagine which finger I waved back with
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@ Toothcentral: Actually my husband claims this finger wagging is a "Chur thing" where people feel it is their duty to show you when you are in the wrong (somehow they think they are better or know better)... I remember a situation with an old woman in our village (You know, one of those old people who have nothing better to do than stare out the window all day long and tell people what to do *lol*) My best friend was visiting from Canada, my son was newborn and we were admiring a magnolia tree in full bloom across the street. It had at least 200,000 flowers and my friend picked one. The woman completely flipped out at us from her window with that wagging finger. You can imagine which finger I waved back with
LOL, I may start waggling a certian universal finger in return.
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And I thought we Swiss are the ones without a sense for humor.
i have a great sense of humour as well and for your information i come from Monaco.
Very much the same as Switzerland it run very well,it s clean the street are clean every morning,peoples are friendly to each others and we are also a very small country with many banks and depend on the tourism Industry, as well as many peoples from France and Italy come to work as they live on the border and yes at some time i didn t find a job ,but you know what i never said it s because of them,it is simple economy job come and go,and maybe at that time someone else was more attractive then me for a job.
Even Monaco has changed,it is not spotless as it was 10 years ago,why who know i have to say also i can see a difference wich then when i was brought up,been polite and help others,there is also bottles and stuff on the ground but no one yell at people a look can do as much.
And peoples might not be paying tax except for the US and French but still you have VAT on business.
OH and your hard earn money where you have to pay tax ,we also pay tax in Switzerland and as we are Auslander as you know we pay more upfront .You don t hear me complain about.
That will be my last post as you don t get it and there îs no need to talk about anymore.
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Old 12.07.2012, 09:07
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Can we just conclude that Americans are a nuisance and be done with this topic please?
Agree! tho I was born there, it does not hold my heart... I am not a fan of Lee Greenwoods song "proud to be an American" And so many Ami's have their heads up their arses, I believe that the American government is More of an infectious disease than a nuisance. I'm having such a challenge to getting a Swiss bank account, or even being attached to my wife's accounts because I have a blue pass port
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i have a great sense of humour as well and for your information i come from Monaco.
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That will be my last post as you don t get it and there îs no need to talk about anymore.
True that!
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Re: So, is sometimes the "Swiss way" kind of rude?

I am certainly not very fond of Swiss culture, but I must say that I haven't encountered that many rude people here. Or at least not any more than I would have encountered in the U.S. (However, I am from Ohio and I'm quite convinced that there's something in the water there that makes people aggressive and crazy).

It's true, though, that the Swiss are known for being very judgmental. And while I'm not fond of "cultural stereotyping," I have found that the stereotypes often do hold a bit of truth.

One day my husband and I were getting on a train with our bikes. There was a woman and her daughter(?) sitting on the seat located right near the door. The woman looked at us quite rudely and said in Swiss German: "Your bikes are going to be in the way when people get on and off the train." My husband then pointed to the two bike hooks located directly above HER head and explained to her that we had no choice because she was sitting in the way of where our bikes normally should be hung. I thought it was quite funny. Needless to say, she shut up quickly.
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Re: So, is sometimes the "Swiss way" kind of rude?

P.S. I have a theory that, because there is otherwise not so much here in CH to complain about (e.g. there is a stable economy, etc.), the Swiss have to specifically search for things to complain about and jump at the chance to complain every time they do find something.
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(However, I am from Ohio and I'm quite convinced that there's something in the water there that makes people aggressive and crazy).

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That water must flow into or out of Iowa cuz I think I got 18 years of it stored up in me LOL
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P.S. I have a theory that, because there is otherwise not so much here in CH to complain about (e.g. there is a stable economy, etc.), the Swiss have to specifically search for things to complain about and jump at the chance to complain every time they do find something.

True dat! ;-)... just human nature.
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Re: So, is sometimes the "Swiss way" kind of rude?

Yeah, perhaps if they lived like much of the rest of the word -- having to struggle just for food and clean water on a daily basis -- then they'd be less quick to complain about such trivial things as picking up dog poop.
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Yeah, perhaps if they lived like much of the rest of the word -- having to struggle just for food and clean water on a daily basis -- then they'd be less quick to complain about such trivial things as picking up dog poop.
Having come from Seattle after spending 16 years there, I'm not only trained to pick up my dogs' turds, it's ingrained in my soul ... and nothing like rollerblading through several piles on Greenlake to really impress how important it is. LOL

ps. totally off topic... but I'm making some Tatsch, and I don't have a scale (yet) mine is in shipment... is the rough equivalent of 250g about a cup of flour?
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Having come from Seattle after spending 16 years there, I'm not only trained to pick up my dogs' turds, it's ingrained in my soul ... and nothing like rollerblading through several piles on Greenlake to really impress how important it is. LOL

ps. totally off topic... but I'm making some Tatsch, and I don't have a scale (yet) mine is in shipment... is the rough equivalent of 250g about a cup of flour?
Oh come on, just think of the piles of poo as an obstacle course.

Side note: I also lived in Seattle (Redmond to be exact) from 2003-2007.

According to my measuring cup, one cup of flour = 250 ml of flour (and seems to also equal 250 grams, assuming that's what the "G" means on my meas. cup). My cup has markings on it specifically for flour.
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... and RUDE because you blow all this nasty stuff into the face of the cyclist waiting behind you in front of traffic lights and rail crossings

then all cars have to be transported by electric rolling road thru tunnels because motorcyclists have the breath it in as well
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P.S. I have a theory that, because there is otherwise not so much here in CH to complain about (e.g. there is a stable economy, etc.), the Swiss have to specifically search for things to complain about and jump at the chance to complain every time they do find something.
Perhaps... who knows.
But I still like the fact that people do not look away when they see something wrong happening and still dare to do something about it. They are not afraid that they could be beaten up by people like it happens in other countries where you'd better keep quiet and let the "antisocial behaviour" (Other translations found for incivilités: disorderly conduct, serious discourtesy) deteriorate your environment of life.
The down-side: people can be overzealous. I admit that.
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ooh especially when they are protected by their car they love to get angry
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ooh especially when they are protected by their car they love to get angry
Just like in the US... tho I think here they haven't started shooting each-other yet.

It's human nature I think, when people are in tank like autos, they adopt a Stalin, Patton, Hitler, Alexander the Great or some other worrier like attitude.
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then all cars have to be transported by electric rolling road thru tunnels because motorcyclists have the breath it in as well
There not many tunnels for cyclists around, at least not in the part of the country I live in.
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Re: So, is sometimes the "Swiss way" kind of rude?

Yes, many swiss are quite rude, in part it is a normal "peasant" way of being. I once asked on the bus a driver for a ticket, I walked from behind, was with my little daughter and her byke. He drove and said as he hit the counter with the open hand: "sit down! it's forbidden talking to the driver!"
In the next stop I went to him and hit the counter just as he had and asked if that was according to the politeness rules of the company, paid, took note of his name. In a quite loud voice! He did not say a word, and turned to a lamb.
The trick (as germans do, unlike the swiss) is to face them keeping control of yourself, be very polite, force them to give you an explanation about their anger and treat them like a tantrum child, for that is in great part what they (mostly not-always-old very conservative and xenophobic people) are.
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