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Old 24.05.2011, 20:43
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Re: Zug buses not pram friendly

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...But you seem to be implying that ...
No. You're inferring a lot, I'm not implying anything. Just making an observation that 15 or so years ago, things were considerably more difficult for parents with kids than they are now, so it evokes wry amusement to hear someone complaining about a few steps on a bus. Be glad you've got off-road buggies and, for the most part, pram friendly public transport.

btw, the McClaren 3 way was designed to be used from newborns through to toddler. Maybe I was in a poor part of the world or something, but we rarely saw one of the full-sized prams - perhaps because they were impossible to use on public transport.
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Old 24.05.2011, 21:14
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Re: Zug buses not pram friendly

When we were in Basel, the Combino trams were great if you had a pushchair. Also the Be 4/6 659-686 model frequently used on the 14 line have a middle section that allows easy access with a pram. Ditto the models used on the 10/11 routes.

In Zürich the 3 route also offers pram friendly carriages.

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Old 24.05.2011, 21:18
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I'm going to invent a bus-friendly pram. .
Screw bus-friendly. Bus better get outta baby's way, beyotch!

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In Zürich the 3 route also offers pram friendly carriages.
I think most if not all of the trams in Zurich have a carriage with a pram symbol on the door, don;t they? Usually means there is space to park it inside even though there might be steps up to it. I think it's fab that on the electronic signs indicating when the next tram is due it says whether it has disabled access or not, thats a big help to anyone in a wheelchair or with a pram, or indeed with other mobility issues - I've seen elderly people with zimmer frames struggling up the steep steps to the older trams, often the doors seem to close really quickly so I often hold them open for people and I've seen others do the same.
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Re: Zug buses not pram friendly

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No. You're inferring a lot, I'm not implying anything.
You seemed to be implying... whether you intended it to seem that way or not.

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Just making an observation that 15 or so years ago, things were considerably more difficult for parents with kids than they are now, so it evokes wry amusement to hear someone complaining about a few steps on a bus. Be glad you've got off-road buggies and, for the most part, pram friendly public transport.
I never understand the attitude that it's better now than it used to be so you shouldn't wish/expect/try etc to improve things further.


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btw, the McClaren 3 way was designed to be used from newborns through to toddler. Maybe I was in a poor part of the world or something, but we rarely saw one of the full-sized prams - perhaps because they were impossible to use on public transport.
Incidentally... mcclarens are actually the premium brand folding buggy, to get one suitable from birth you're looking at £175+ in the UK whereas there are some much cheaper brands like chicco.
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Incidentally... mcclarens are actually the premium brand folding buggy, to get one suitable from birth you're looking at £175+ in the UK whereas there are some much cheaper brands like chicco.
I see a lot more Chiccos around now than when I got mine. Great stroller - very useful and we live with a wanderweg with stones to town and a bit of a hill. I used it from birth with my second. The first shop tied to sell me another big one and said that this Chicco lite way wasn't suitable from birth, removing the 0+ tag from the stroller in their shop

I strapped my little one in a snuggly cocoon and it was safer than the bassinet style prams (that my son seemed to slip down in and his head touched the top when we went down the hill and bounced about in it over bumps). I use the same stroller for holidays too and I managed to fit a board on the back for my son for long walks/holidays/crowds. It is around 6kgs and doesn't take up half the car boot like my big stroller.
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Re: Zug buses not pram friendly

I haven't had any problems with the buses here in Zug because the drivers normally lower it when they see someone, but the trams in the city are nightmares with a pram! The three steep steps are ridiculous. Luckily, my son is just about grown out of it.
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