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name one.

In this thread you have Americans on one side (and I include Canada but not Mexico) and everyone else disagreeing.
But I used to be American, so where do I fit in?

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name one.

In this thread you have Americans on one side (and I include Canada but not Mexico) and everyone else disagreeing.
My friend, Darren
America doesn't include Canada, nor Mexico.
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Old 29.05.2011, 01:24
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America doesn't include Canada, nor Mexico.


Ok. You are taking the piss now, no?
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Old 29.05.2011, 01:25
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My friend, Darren
America doesn't include Canada, nor Mexico.
In our household it does.

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Re: Kids in blackface

Yes, I did see that. But there was also a mention by Ullainga that Americans dressing like Germans could be offensive... so I wanted to point out that many of them are probably of German heritage. Same as St. Paddy's day in the US, when 99% of Americans find their "inner Irish."

Anyway, I think you may have been the one to say that it is "about context." If I were to dress like a bad stereotype of "Kaiser Wilhelm", or a "Dumb Swede" or a "buck toothed Jap" or "Little Black Sambo" or an "American Redskin" I would expect that I would offend some people.

OTOH, if I were to dress as a "Happy Bavarian," the Swedish Chef from the Muppets, a Samurai, a Masai warrior or an Indian Chief (this one might be a stretch), showing each in their best light, people would be happy with the image that they see.

Anyway, I did not see the girls described by the OP, but I can understand the context for a Canadian or American that has grown up with Blackface caricatures and other African stereotypes. As an American, I do sometimes cringe when I see certain products/images in Europe and Asia of Black Africans. But that is MY context.

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The German lederhosen part was in response to someone saying they use chinese stereotypes which is also offensive in his opinion.

So the Lederhosen bit was a German stereotype.
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Old 29.05.2011, 01:26
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But I used to be American, so where do I fit in?

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You said you vote for the Lega, so clearly the racist side. I am just not sure which one that is on this thread....
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But keep on believing what you believe only change can come from within. Good luck with that

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you keep on seeing bias and prejudices where you do. good luck with that.

yeah, brandon t jackson was reealllyy offended by that portrayal in tropic thunder.

and mexicans are all offended by speedy gonzalez....

america doesn't include canada or mexico? this conversation? again???....
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Ok. You are taking the piss now, no?
Sorry, this has been debated before. When you refer to America in English, it means America as in the United States,and Americans. But I guess if English is not your first language, you may not understand this.
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Old 29.05.2011, 01:28
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You said you vote for the Lega, so clearly the racist side. I am just not sure which one that is on this thread....
Lega is NOT racist, just pro Ticinese.

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In our household it does.

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Well, then I guess your household misuses the word then. In English, America is not Canada or Mexico
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Well, then I guess your household misuses the word then. In English, America is not Canada or Mexico
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Strictly speaking is America not the whole continent which is made up of North and South America?
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Strictly speaking is America not the whole continent which is made up of North and South America?
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/america
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Sorry, this has been debated before. When you refer to America in English, it means America as in the United States,and Americans. But I guess if English is not your first language, you may not understand this.
"America" means either of two continents. That some English speakers are too stupid to understand this is another matter.

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you keep on seeing bias and prejudices where you do. good luck with that.

yeah, brandon t jackson was reealllyy offended by that portrayal in tropic thunder.

and mexicans are all offended by speedy gonzalez....

america doesn't include canada or mexico? this conversation? again???....
I merely corrected a wrong fact in a post.
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Well, then I guess your household misuses the word then. In English, America is not Canada or Mexico
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Not according to Wikipedia: Wikipedia reference-linkAmerica

They admit that it is an abiguity. It is typically exclusively US Americans who claim that it exclusively means the US. My Brazilian business partners were more than unhappy about the US border guards asking them "have you ever been in America?"... and they on the other hand didn't really like the "yes, all my life" answer either.
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Strictly speaking is America not the whole continent which is made up of North and South America?
Those are TWO continents.

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So I actually did learn something from this thread
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"America" means either of two continents. That some English speakers are too stupid to understand this is another matter.

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I would counter and say that some are too stupid to understand the obvious. So a Mexican citizen can go the the American border and say he's American? So he should have no issue getting in then right?
Now if you say North American and South American, that's different. But America=USA=American, nothing else. I know it must be hard for you to understand. Good luck with that.
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With all the nose wiping that's going on here I'm heading over to the snot thread.
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Not according to Wikipedia: Wikipedia reference-linkAmerica

They admit that it is an abiguity. It is typically exclusively US Americans who claim that it exclusively means the US. My Brazilian business partners were more than unhappy about the US border guards asking them "have you ever been in America?"... and they on the other hand didn't really like the "yes, all my life" answer either.
But they were not Americans were they? They are translating the question from their language not English.
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