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I am totally fed up I know some German still can't manage to find a job I am about to be 18 wasted 1 year because can't get admission in University this year because i do not know German. Can someone help me out?
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Old 27.05.2011, 12:52
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Re: Swiss not my type i guess

About to be 18, eh? Well for what its worth, you've plenty of time ahead of you. Wait 'til you're in your 40s and still feel the same...
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Re: Swiss not my type i guess

yes, learn german
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What is your story? Why are you in Switzerland? Have you thought about going to the UK to study?
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Old 27.05.2011, 13:28
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Re: Swiss not my type i guess

I thought, from the thread title, that this was about dating ....
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Old 27.05.2011, 13:33
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I am totally fed up I know some German still can't manage to find a job I am about to be 18
From 24.05.2011: I am about to be 18 in 6 months

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... wasted 1 year
From 25.05.2011: i moved to switzerland a month back

Who are you, and what do you really want?
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Old 27.05.2011, 13:33
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Re: Swiss not my type i guess

Punctuation would probably help.
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Re: Swiss not my type i guess

well im 21 and i was already going to university in mexico, i decided to come and live here and found out that nothing i did is valid here, so now i have to repeat high school if i want to go to university. So dont panic your case is not looking bad at all! you have time!!
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Old 27.05.2011, 14:14
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Re: Swiss not my type i guess

Get a German Proficiency certificate ( min B1 ) and things might change for the better. A little later on, look towards the DE border for tuition free Unis. and apply.

Tuition fees likely to be abolished from 2012 summer in Baden-Wurttemberg DE?
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I am totally fed up I know some German still can't manage to find a job I am about to be 18 wasted 1 year because can't get admission in University this year because i do not know German. Can someone help me out?
I doubt what is the minimum age to start the work in CH ? I hope there are lot of English Universities outside CH, why don't you try there or alternatively start taking German lessons. You are still about to be 18, so you have a lot of time to experiment with yourself.
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Old 27.05.2011, 15:03
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Re: Swiss not my type i guess

Interesting -your German isn't good enough for university but the translation of a manuscript (several hundred pages) wouldn't be a problem

From: Jobs offered/ Translation work

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I'll be glad to do this .. If you like you can send me a Copy or a page so i could go through it and let you know . Take Care
but maybe it's just a misunderstanding...
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Old 27.05.2011, 15:55
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I am totally fed up I know some German still can't manage to find a job I am about to be 18 wasted 1 year because can't get admission in University this year because i do not know German. Can someone help me out?

From some of your other posts, it seems you've not been here long, I'm quite curious - what brought you here? Did you come with family?


See, the thing is that in Switzerland, there isn't quite the same push to go to uni that there is in some other areas of the world so the universities tend to be quite picky.

Although there seem to be some course lines which go in English, reading your posts, you'll probably need to work on that some before you feel really comfortable in university level courses in English as well. I do not mean it as an insult but just a statement of probability.

Meanwhile, due to the fact that you are NOT yet 18, you may be able to get some help directed toward youths with finding jobs and such and depending on the job, they may be able to help you with language classes as well. (Otherwise, having a job, you'll be better able to pay for language classes yourself.)

Someone else asked what age "kids" start working in Switzerland, I think it maybe a cantonal thing, I know that my hubby began apprenticing (work + studies) when he was about 15. This is a common thing here, to learn a trade 3 or 4 days a week and do more formal studies the other day(s). I've seen a few advertisements for folks taking on apprentices around here but they went up probably end of February or in March, it may be tough to find this right now, with the kids and available positions (mostly) already sorted for summer.


Anyhow, whatever happens, I'm sure something will work out for you mujtaba, just possibly / probably not quite the way you had in mind.
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I am totally fed up I know some German still can't manage to find a job I am about to be 18 wasted 1 year because can't get admission in University this year because i do not know German. Can someone help me out?
I don't want to be hard on you but I think you should get on and learn German.
You must still have a very flexible brain at 18 and it should be possible, whatever your mother-tongue.
I had to learn French from scratch at the age of 70, because it was obvious I wouldn't make any friends, or understand what was really going on around me without it.
I can now speak French, nowhere near perfectly, but enough to get me by.
I'm obviously not aiming to get into university but, were I 18 and wanted to, I would make the effort.
I'm sure this is not the kind of help you're asking for but I hope it is at least food-for-thought.
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Old 28.05.2011, 04:04
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From some of your other posts, it seems you've not been here long, I'm quite curious - what brought you here? Did you come with family?


See, the thing is that in Switzerland, there isn't quite the same push to go to uni that there is in some other areas of the world so the universities tend to be quite picky.

Although there seem to be some course lines which go in English, reading your posts, you'll probably need to work on that some before you feel really comfortable in university level courses in English as well. I do not mean it as an insult but just a statement of probability.

Meanwhile, due to the fact that you are NOT yet 18, you may be able to get some help directed toward youths with finding jobs and such and depending on the job, they may be able to help you with language classes as well. (Otherwise, having a job, you'll be better able to pay for language classes yourself.)

Someone else asked what age "kids" start working in Switzerland, I think it maybe a cantonal thing, I know that my hubby began apprenticing (work + studies) when he was about 15. This is a common thing here, to learn a trade 3 or 4 days a week and do more formal studies the other day(s). I've seen a few advertisements for folks taking on apprentices around here but they went up probably end of February or in March, it may be tough to find this right now, with the kids and available positions (mostly) already sorted for summer.


Anyhow, whatever happens, I'm sure something will work out for you mujtaba, just possibly / probably not quite the way you had in mind.
In Britain, non-English speakers need to have done the Cambridge Proficiency to be allowed into British universities and similar institutions.

In France, you cannot expect to be allowed into any French university unless your command of French is highly advanced
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In France, you cannot expect to be allowed into any French university unless your command of French is highly advanced
In principal, I don't disagree with this; I've also had to learn German after all. But, I do need to contest your blanket statement - depending on faculty, a very good number of universities are aligning their programs internationally by teaching in English. And yes, even here, it's arguably easier to find a masters program in English than in German.


I completely agree that the op needs to just get over it and get back to learning the language - did you do no research before getting here? Clearly your expectations weren't aligned with reality, so use the next year to really learn what you'll need.
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In Britain, non-English speakers need to have done the Cambridge Proficiency to be allowed into British universities and similar institutions.

In France, you cannot expect to be allowed into any French university unless your command of French is highly advanced
Also in Switzerland, I think you can get into uni with less than an advanced level... I know people who attended the University of Lausanne with a B2 certificate (and the studies were in French). That's pretty fair. So, buckle down and study hard, and doors will begin to open.
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In principal, I don't disagree with this; I've also had to learn German after all. But, I do need to contest your blanket statement - depending on faculty, a very good number of universities are aligning their programs internationally by teaching in English. And yes, even here, it's arguably easier to find a masters program in English than in German.


I completely agree that the op needs to just get over it and get back to learning the language - did you do no research before getting here? Clearly your expectations weren't aligned with reality, so use the next year to really learn what you'll need.
A) the other way round it of course works. Out of German you can move into English. It is from inside OUT.

B) the MASTERS programs of course are in English, as they are of USA/GB origin. The problem of the OP that you first have to move into the university of whatever kind before you can move into any programs. I admit that this fact is nonsensical, but fact it is

C) do not forget that much of the specialized literature is in English and parts also in French, so that some command of BOTH EN&FR is more than useful
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