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Now to make my worry more specific, is there any rule (written or unwritten) in schools here that obligates me to tell my daughter to not talk about our beliefs in school except during Religion class?
I think I would be more concerned if there WAS such a rule.
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Old 01.06.2011, 10:24
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Of course not - the teacher will inform you when a limit is reached or a border crossed.

Just be yourself and use the common sense.

As always with such controversial subjects.

Or ask the school directly and tell them about your concerns.


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Im not upset with anyone, just to be clear. And for me this IS an issue with kids, if i should teach my 6 year old to keep the "god talk" at home or if i just let her judge and learn from it.

This post is not about whose religion is right either. I come from a very catholic country (but im protestant) so it is very different from here. I know about hinduism and such but i dont know the attitude of the swiss environment towards what my daughter is doing. Being open about our beliefs. Id like to know if this will get her in trouble in school or what.
The "Swiss environment" by majority may agree with your daughter in theory, but nobody will declare such things in public. It sounds too "fundamentalist" for comfort.
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Old 01.06.2011, 10:28
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Re: 6 year old says "bla bla bla" when daughter talks about God

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I doubt there is a written rule...but the unwritten ones also matter. We have to be sensitive to these.
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Old 01.06.2011, 10:31
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Now to make my worry more specific, is there any rule (written or unwritten) in schools here that obligates me to tell my daughter to not talk about our beliefs in school except during Religion class?
There are no "rules" about it, but in general, your daughter ought to abstain from such rather radical statements.
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Old 01.06.2011, 10:32
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Re: 6 year old says "bla bla bla" when daughter talks about God

The "bla bla bla" comes from the parents, most likely the mother.

I would instruct your child not to take it personally. It's not about God per-say but rather your kid is talking about something that the other kid is not interested in.

I bet if you went to chat with the mother about something she's not interested in, she'd do the same "bla bla bla" - maybe only when you have left, though.

I think it's just ignorant behaviour which is on its 3rd or 4th generation now....
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Old 01.06.2011, 10:33
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Re: 6 year old says "bla bla bla" when daughter talks about God

Wasn't there a case where a teacher had to take down the crucifix from his class (in CH), not so long ago? My recollection is that it was mentioned on EF, and that there is a (written) rule about religious displays/icons, but I doubt there is a written rule about speaking about religion in a non-structured situation (i.e. child-child vs. teacher-child).

Or am I dreaming on this one?
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Re: 6 year old says "bla bla bla" when daughter talks about God

If it was just a conversation between two 6 year olds. I wouldn't be too worried.

What works in our family is the 'some people...' statement.

"Some people believe xyz..."
"Some people like to go to church..."
"some people don't believe in god...."

I remember when my daughter was about 5.5 she came home very cross because her 'best friend' told her that my daughter would die first 'because she was older'...

It wasn't meant as an insult. Just one child's understanding of things that differed to the others...my daughter knew that sometimes babies die (my close friend lost her baby in horrific circumstances and my daughter was aware of the experience) - her best buddy only knew that 'old people die when they get old'...

Another time she came home and told me she had had a disagreement with another 'best buddy' Her best buddy told her 'God is in the clouds'. But my daughter was quite sure that 'God is everywhere'...I suspect that her friend, who was from a buddhist background, had been watching a little too many old reruns of 'monkey Magic'...

One of the things that is recognised as a developmental 'issue' for kids from 6-12 is that they begin with the beliefs/experiences/understandings of home, and start to compare that with their friends... So they become aware (through trial and error, and all sorts of 'innapropriate' comments or discussions), that what happens in one family, doesn't happen in another.

My daughter told me at 7 she was jealous of her friend who had houses (parents had both found new partners) - but then she realised that meant that her friend had to live in one house for one week and then the other house for another week..."But what if she wants toys or something from her other house, or she wants to see her mum when she is at her dad's place ?"...
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Old 01.06.2011, 10:36
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I think it's just ignorant behaviour which is on its 3rd or 4th generation now....
..what's ignorant, is religious people having to put in god and whatnot into every friggin thing...it's like Aromat for the Swiss. They just can't leave it alone.
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Old 01.06.2011, 10:36
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Re: 6 year old says "bla bla bla" when daughter talks about God

Our seven year old has come home from school before quite upset as a classmate from quite a religious family made fun of my son because he didn't go to church and did quite see god in the same light.

I don't want religion rammed down the throat of my kids by his classmates who feel and act as if they are superior.

Thanks for the tip though. I'm going to tell him to say 'blah, blah, blah.." next time they drone on

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Old 01.06.2011, 10:39
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..what's ignorant, is religious people having to put in god and whatnot into every friggin thing...it's like Aromat for the Swiss. They just can't leave it alone.
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Old 01.06.2011, 10:44
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The "bla bla bla" comes from the parents, most likely the mother.

I would instruct your child not to take it personally. It's not about God per-say but rather your kid is talking about something that the other kid is not interested in.

I bet if you went to chat with the mother about something she's not interested in, she'd do the same "bla bla bla" - maybe only when you have left, though.

I think it's just ignorant behaviour which is on its 3rd or 4th generation now....
To be honest, "blablabla" is one of the standard bolt-on responses from 4-6 year olds to any situation. They pick it up from the other kids and use it willy-nilly.

I get "blablabla" when I ask my son to wash his hands or turn off the television or any number of random situations.

The friend of the OP's daughter was probably just saying it for effect rather than showing signs of religious fundamentalism.
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Old 01.06.2011, 10:45
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..what's ignorant, is religious people having to put in god and whatnot into every friggin thing...it's like Aromat for the Swiss. They just can't leave it alone.
Can you please stop? This is rubbish! It's America who can't leave religion alone. It's the only country in the West that desperately needs it's Church and State constitutional separation and in spite of that is still rife with Bible Belt Klansmen, televangelists, door knockers and holy rollers. And only in America (and...Saudi etc) if you're an atheist you're soulless. One nation under God. Yeah.
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Re: 6 year old says "bla bla bla" when daughter talks about God

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The friend of the OP's daughter was probably just saying it for effect rather than showing signs of religious fundamentalism.
Wasn't it the OP's daughter that showed signs of religious fundamentalism?
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Old 01.06.2011, 10:52
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Re: 6 year old says "bla bla bla" when daughter talks about God

interestingly--I've found that a Swiss person is always obliged (almost instinctively forced) to say g'sundheit when one sneezes.

As our working culture is english, I try to mirror this with our version...."Bless you" which stems from "God bless you"....but this is a faux pas in North American corporate culture.
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Im not sure where to put this, is there a religious section here?

Im not really complaining in its full sense, but something my daughter told me yesterday kept me up last night.

My daughter is going to kindergarten and has a best friend. I say best friend because they both agree they like each other (after 3 months) very much and all they talk about is when my daughter is going to the friends house again and vice versa.

So the friend is Indian but raised here. She had lunch at our house one time and she is very nice and respectful. But yesterday my daughter told me that she was talking about God. Out of the blue she just makes statements like "all the things we see here, the nice things are made by god", very general stuff. The friend just went "blablablablabla". I know english as well as german speakers (the friend speaks both) say that.

Im sure this didnt happen just yesterday and she is still best friends with the girl. She was also bothered but i dont think she got hurt with it. Here´s what im worried about...Does this have to do with the friend´s being indian or is it her swiss upbringing? If the latter, should i warn my daughter to not talk about God?
Well she didn't specify which god, so I assume it is not because the little Indian girl believes in the competition. It shows a very advanced thinking process of the little girl, she is able to reason for herself and not be swayed by the over bearing nature of religious adults.

I myself from a young age (6) always wondered about the mental stability of the bearded guys that used to come to our school every month and talk in a strange staccato fashion about this guy Jesus and his un-noteworthy actions in a glassy eyed reverie. It is refreshing to learn that other children are enquiring bright and insuppressible
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The "bla bla bla" comes from the parents, most likely the mother.

I would instruct your child not to take it personally. It's not about God per-say but rather your kid is talking about something that the other kid is not interested in.

I bet if you went to chat with the mother about something she's not interested in, she'd do the same "bla bla bla" - maybe only when you have left, though.

I think it's just ignorant behaviour which is on its 3rd or 4th generation now....

How can you so nonchalantly, blame the mother??
my 6year old has recently taken to saying "bla bla bla" recently, and I assure you , these phonetics have never been uttered in our home!!!

And why would you chat to the kids mother about such a tiny little conversation?

I think this is blown out of proportion, these are 6 year olds we are dealing with.

I remember when my nephew was 6, he had a Christian friend (my family is Hindu), who took the time to explain to my nephew the story of Easter, with the emphasis that after Jesus died, he reappeared, or as the little boy stated 'came back'.
My nephew who was quite exasperated after hearing the story for the 5th time, answered, "Yes, I know, its like recycling Christ" .

So what, your daughter's friend is not fervently religious. It just opens up a new perspective for your kid, and she will learn to accept that we are not all the same, and our values, and beliefs differ. And that is OK!
That is what the OP should explain to her daughter.
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Old 01.06.2011, 10:56
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Can you please stop? This is rubbish! It's America who can't leave religion alone. It's the only country in the West that desperately needs it's Church and State constitutional separation and in spite of that is still rife with Bible Belt Klansmen, televangelists, door knockers and holy rollers. And only in America (and...Saudi etc) if you're an atheist you're soulless. One nation under God. Yeah.
With the greatest respect Economisto...this is really interesting.

(I'm not taking the bait)
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Old 01.06.2011, 10:58
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How can you so nonchalantly, blame the mother??
my 6year old has recently taken to saying "bla bla bla" recently, and I assure you , these phonetics have never been uttered in our home!!!
KB said "most likely" not "in every case"

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And why would you chat to the kids mother about such a tiny little conversation?
KB meant, if you go and chat with the mother about something random, she'll do the same.

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I think this is blown out of proportion,
I think so too, but by you.
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It shows a very advanced thinking process of the little girl, she is able to reason for herself and not be swayed by the over bearing nature of religious adults.
Erm, I think I'd go with the explanation below.
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